why not try minshew in a different postion then qb. maybe KR,  wr  or in a  lineman to block.   we could even try him at TE. just imaine if Trevore,minshew,and tebow all made the 53 man roster.


we would have  trabowshew mania.  

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note titans owner means im undeafted againest them. 

So valuable to those other teams and coaches that no one is trading for him…… lol

He’s just a guy. If he stays, fine. If he leaves, fine.

The Jags for whatever reasons are continuing to hold onto him for the time being. I think that one reason is that they may not like the compensation other teams want to give for him. I do believe if the compensation was higher and/or they made him more readily available to be traded it would happen. 

The 49ers were definitely interested in him as were the Eagles and Panthers. (This information was confirmed by Jeff as well as beat reporters that covered these teams, including on draft night). I also heard the Bears were interested in him and Jeff did say he talked to a "lot" of coaches that were interested in him. That's the word he used. A lot. There are much better run organizations than the Jags have been who would probably love Gardner on the roster. Even if only as a backup. If he went to teams like them he might not start (though maybe some opportunities could present themselves later on) but at least he could benefit from good coaching and learn more about winning. And could possibly have a nice deep run in the playoffs. Which is more than he has gotten from being on the Jags so far.

Only some Jags fans (and detractors) think that no would be interested in Gardner. I don't think too many people overall shares that view. People could learn real fast his value if he's traded, Trevor plays well, has the Jags in playoff contention but suffers an injury and can't finish out the season. And this team has to either plug in CJ, who can be okay but has been reported by at least one reporter as the worst looking QB in OTA's. Or Jake Luton who is still pretty inexperienced. And let's not even get started on what could happen if they somehow considered putting Tebow in. People (including some that act like they don't really value him) are going wish they had Gardner around if it gets to that point. Especially if he had taken well to Urban's system.

We'll see what happens. We still have some more of OTA's and training camp coming up. Injury scares are already starting to happen. Cam Newton hurt his hand the other day and had to have it looked at it. They said it's okay, but you never know. Jordan Love has been reportedly struggling in OTA's in things like 11 on 11 and Aaron Rodgers is still holding out. There is opportunity in different places plus news of him being disgruntled could cause more teams to possibly reach out to the Jags as well. The reports of him missing OTA's caused more NFL reporters/insiders to speak up/propose suggestions for his situation That type of thing also generates additional interest.

I think you’re over inflating his value due to an emotional connection.

He’s an average to below average QB who had a few good games his rookie year. He’s nothing special and if he plays somewhere else, he will likely end up doing the same thing. All those teams you mentioned went with average QBs too (Darnold Hurts/Flacco and Dalton). 

Thank god it’s Trevor time so I don’t have to watch Minshew check down instead of hitting Chark downfield.

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Minshew at KR that is good stuff wolfie

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Absent an injury to Trevor or a trade, he'll be Captain Clipboard, or in present terms, Sergeant Surface. It's pretty simple and not in need of 84 posts...

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And keeping 3 QBs is such a bad idea because....????

Good question.  Teams used to do it all the time, and some still do.  The Jaguars hadn't done it in years, though.

Does anyone know how many teams kept three quarterbacks on their 53 man roster last year?  I tried to look it up, but couldn't find the stat anywhere and didn't have the time to search team by team.  My impression is most are only keeping two these days (not counting the practice squad), although I'm sure some have three.

Personally, I've advocated keeping three.  Teams have a third string at virtually ever other position, why not quarterback?  It's the most important position on the team.  It's also the position toughest to "plug and play".  I know some get around the "plug and play" part by having someone on the practice squad, but you can't put anyone of any value on the practice squad as some other team could sign them.  Minshew is dirt cheap being on a sixth round rookie contract.  I think it's good to give competition to Beathard and if Minshew doesn't beat him out, he makes great insurance.  We're only talking about two injuries for the third string quarterback to get playing time.  I don't see the last roster spot as all that important.  The last roster spot is usually for some guy that plays special teams.  You can hide a position like that on the practice squad much easier than a quarterback.

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In Baalke's last season in San Francisco, he had 3 QBs on the roster, in Kaepernick, Gabbert and Ponder. Although the Jags most recently have only been keeping 2 on the 53, with 1 on the practice squad as a 3rd QB, it will be interesting to see how many Meyer retains on the 53.

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why not try minshew in a different postion then qb. maybe KR,  wr  or in a  lineman to block.   we could even try him at TE. just imaine if Trevore,minshew,and tebow all made the 53 man roster.


we would have  trabowshew mania.  

LMBO @ "trabowshew mania".

That a good one Wolfie.

NH3...

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It's OTA's, wake me up if he's still doing this come TC. Lawrence is our guy behind center, nothing else matters.

I wonder how everything will end up playing out here. The way Jeff said he hasn't been at all of the OTA's made me wonder how many he's really missed so far. I believe the media has only been/reported on like two of them, and the rest have been closed. So I wonder what's going on there. Maybe it is just the one, but I do wonder.

I wonder if he continues to be disgruntled and acting like he doesn't really want to be with the Jags (Which I think could happen), I wonder what move they make regarding him. If they cut him if he will be picked up by another team, or to TRM's point may not even clear waivers before he's picked up by another team. In that clip with his trainer one of the hosts said they could throw him on the practice squad, but he would be picked up quickly by another team as well. I definitely think he would be happier if he was set free from the Jags one way or the other. I actually laughed at the way his trainer said "Good!" and suggested it would be optimal if he was cut, when one of his co-hosts suggested it. I think that those comments from his trainer, reflect his feelings.

I think they should really take more consideration into trading him. Heck, I think they should have traded him earlier. Especially since they haven't been even that clear that they wanted him as the #2 QB.

missing one = "hasn't been at all of the OTAs"

I ain't gonna let E!SPN and their yellow journalism cloud reality. Give the reporter credit, he remains factual in his statement, even if it overinflates the magnitude.

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We kept 3 QBs on the roster for a time after trading a 5th for Dobbs.


Anyway, I had a dream last night that Minshew was upset - he felt he was due a pay increase.  Since he's not eligible for a contract renegotiation until after his 3rd year, I doubt the validity of said dream.

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Haven’t read the whole thread. Mainly I’ve just read the title. Has anyone suggested Porn? Seems like a good calling. That is after his backup career is over.

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Another ESPN insider Jeremy Fowler mentioned recently that the Jags might ask for a 5th or 6th round for Gardner. I didn't read the original article on ESPN (it's blocked unless you have a subscription.) But other articles mentioned it and that's what it sounded like. Or the very least that is what insiders believe they might ask for. If that's the case I think they could end up moving Gardner relatively quickly. That is a good bargain for another team that is looking to acquire another QB.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...round-pick

Also, this may or may not be related but Gardner cut his hair short. Maybe he knows something is up and he wants a new look for a new team, lol.

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Another ESPN insider Jeremy Fowler mentioned recently that the Jags might ask for a 5th or 6th round for Gardner. I didn't read the original article on ESPN (it's blocked unless you have a subscription.) But other articles mentioned it and that's what it sounded like. Or the very least that is what insiders believe they might ask for. If that's the case I think they could end up moving Gardner relatively quickly. That is a good bargain for another team that is looking to acquire another QB.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...round-pick

Also, this may or may not be related but Gardner cut his hair short. Maybe he knows something is up and he wants a new look for a new team, lol.

In my opinion getting that low of a pick would be pretty stupid.

Contrary to popular belief, there should be a "competition" for the starting slot right now between Gardner and Trevor.  A starting spot should NEVER be given based on draft position.  Trevor Lawrence has never taken an NFL snap in a live NFL game.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

I think he will be on the team until the real training camp starts if bearhard or luton doesnt improve they prly keep him as num 2. Why risk it if Trevor goes down then you have a crap qb.

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Another ESPN insider Jeremy Fowler mentioned recently that the Jags might ask for a 5th or 6th round for Gardner. I didn't read the original article on ESPN (it's blocked unless you have a subscription.) But other articles mentioned it and that's what it sounded like. Or the very least that is what insiders believe they might ask for. If that's the case I think they could end up moving Gardner relatively quickly. That is a good bargain for another team that is looking to acquire another QB.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1000...round-pick

Also, this may or may not be related but Gardner cut his hair short. Maybe he knows something is up and he wants a new look for a new team, lol.

In my opinion getting that low of a pick would be pretty stupid.

Contrary to popular belief, there should be a "competition" for the starting slot right now between Gardner and Trevor.  A starting spot should NEVER be given based on draft position.  Trevor Lawrence has never taken an NFL snap in a live NFL game.

It's interesting because Gardner has been taking reps with the ones. Granted that might be largely because Trevor is coming off an injury/surgery and maybe they didn't want to work him too much. And/or maybe they wanted Gardner to have at least some reps with the ones for various reasons. IT sounds like Gardner has overall been pretty solid during this OTA's and holding his own. From what I have read of reports so far, he's been no worse than the 2nd best QB on the team overall. And at times has looked like the best in certain areas like having good rhythm with the receivers. 

I can understand a coaching staff preferring to put certain people into starting spots. Including first round draft picks, with a lot of talent and upside. But I also think it's good to be willing to evaluate the QB position as needed. I wouldn't mind seeing Gardner/Trevor compete for the starting position. I do think that Trevor will more than likely end up starting, whether the staff considers having them compete or not.

I do wonder if Gardner is on the move. Not only did more information come out about the Jags possibly trading him today and their potential asking price, but the Eagles just cut one of their QB's on the roster this afternoon. I wonder if they could be trying to make room for him. The last I read he was possibly headed to Philly. (That was the report from a little while ago from the Carolina Panthers reporter who said she heard Gardner there was a good chance Gardner would end up there).

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I wouldnt take anything less than a 4th. A healthy Minshew is one of tge best back ups in tge league. His hand is healthy again

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How about a tight end (Ertz) and a 5th or 6th? The Eagles have big cap issues and this would save them 8.5 million less 850k.... We have the room and Ertz's contract is up 2022. That is in line with the 2 year deals they have been doing.... maybe not but just saying

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

How about a tight end (Ertz) and a 5th or 6th?  The Eagles have big cap issues and this would save them 8.5 million less 850k.... We have the room and Ertz's contract is up 2022. That is in line with the 2 year deals they have been doing....  maybe not but just saying

Trading minshew for a solid TE  would have to be considered. However, 17 games is a long season. I just say keep him.

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Not a bad problem.  Either a capable back-up,  or just character on the sideline.  If some desperate team offered us a solid tight end I would definitely consider it.

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Haven’t read the whole thread. Mainly I’ve just read the title.  Has anyone suggested Porn?  Seems like a good calling. That is after his backup career is over.

Maybe you should post this in the Tebow thread too, seems germane.

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