#fireurbanmeyer

I feel like you should shorten that to #FireMeyer

Very chantable for next week.

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Can anyone tell me with a straight face that if you transplanted the Saints' staff and FO to Jax back in February we wouldn't be seeing a much better team right now?

(Saints are just one example of several)

I'll do you one better: This team would look better with Caldwell and Marrone.

I agree. Marrone was a far superior coach, and from what we've seen so far, Urban is the worst GM we've ever had.

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Can anyone tell me with a straight face that if you transplanted the Saints' staff and FO to Jax back in February we wouldn't be seeing a much better team right now?

(Saints are just one example of several)

I'll do you one better: This team would look better with Caldwell and Marrone.

That's what I said on another thread.

I honestly think DC would have had a much better draft and FA signings while Marrone (even with Wash) would have this team more ready to play every week and at least I am sure we would have 2, maybe 3 wins by now.

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"Treyvon Wallet is elite run defender and better overall than Aidan Hutchinson" 11/11/23

I'll do you one better: This team would look better with Caldwell and Marrone.

That's what I said on another thread.

I honestly think DC would have had a much better draft and FA signings while Marrone (even with Wash) would have this team more ready to play every week and at least I am sure we would have 2, maybe 3 wins by now.

Caldwell and marrone basically tanked and sacrificed their jobs for getting Trevor. Not all heroes wear capes

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Can anyone tell me with a straight face that if you transplanted the Saints' staff and FO to Jax back in February we wouldn't be seeing a much better team right now?

(Saints are just one example of several)

I'll do you one better: This team would look better with Caldwell and Marrone.

I would agree.  Marrone showed that if you gave him talent that he could take a team to the AFC Championship Game.  Heck, he even did it with Blake Bortles as quarterback who has trouble now even finding a backup job in the league.  I think Caldwell was a very poor general manager, but from everything I've seen so far, Meyer/Baalke are even worse.

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I thought Urban would be a good X's and O's guy that could bring some creativity to the offense. 

Team has looked totally unprepared and undisciplined.  But - this isn't unusual for a rookie HC and especially with a. rookie QB.  If you go around firing the HC after 1 bad year, then you aren't going to hire good candidates in the future.  Khan isn't likely going to want to pay Meyer for his entire contract after 1 season of work either. 

So - UM is going to stay at least another year.

I'm not a Gator fan or anti-Gator fan, but I didn't like the idea of hiring of Urban Meyer.  I just saw the track record of college coaches without NFL experience in the NFL and it was not good.  Saban and Spurrier failed in the NFL, so why did we think Meyer would succeed?  The supporters almost inevitably used Jimmy Johnson to make their case, but kept forgetting that they had to go back almost 30 years to find their exception.  College coaching is mostly about recruiting.  Even when you talk about X's and O's, I think they are different between the two leagues.  What works in college often won't work in the NFL.  Why do so many great college quarterback fail in the NFL?  It's because it's a different game.  I wanted someone who knew the NFL game.  

That being said, it has always been my policy to be fair and try to support a new Jaguars coach even if I didn't agree with the hire.  The problem is that Meyer kept disappointing.  I didn't like his approach to free agency.  I didn't like his approach to the draft.  I didn't like most of his trades.  Each time he made a bad move, I kept hoping that I was wrong and that Meyer was a secret genius.  However, the results on the field show the opposite.  He made the wrong moves and the team sucks as a result of it.  He's absolutely terrible and must go.

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Marrone and DC would have been substantially better than this crap fest - and that's saying something...

Still in awe about Urban thinking it's not his job to have the team prepared...

I'm usually one for providing a long leash for a new staff/personnel but I'm actually done with this experiment with Meyer and co. It's obvious this isn't working out for this franchise because we would have seen even just blips of competence on and off the field other than Trevor.

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https://twitter.com/acosta32_jp/status/1...55104?s=20

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https://twitter.com/acosta32_jp/status/1...55104?s=20

Nuh-uh, it's not Urban's fault! He just hasn't had enough time to teach professional football players how to count to 12.

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I thought Urban would be a good X's and O's guy that could bring some creativity to the offense. 

Team has looked totally unprepared and undisciplined.  But - this isn't unusual for a rookie HC and especially with a. rookie QB.  If you go around firing the HC after 1 bad year, then you aren't going to hire good candidates in the future.  Khan isn't likely going to want to pay Meyer for his entire contract after 1 season of work either. 

So - UM is going to stay at least another year.

I'm not a Gator fan or anti-Gator fan, but I didn't like the idea of hiring of Urban Meyer.  I just saw the track record of college coaches without NFL experience in the NFL and it was not good.  Saban and Spurrier failed in the NFL, so why did we think Meyer would succeed?  The supporters almost inevitably used Jimmy Johnson to make their case, but kept forgetting that they had to go back almost 30 years to find their exception.  College coaching is mostly about recruiting.  Even when you talk about X's and O's, I think they are different between the two leagues.  What works in college often won't work in the NFL.  Why do so many great college quarterback fail in the NFL?  It's because it's a different game.  I wanted someone who knew the NFL game.  

That being said, it has always been my policy to be fair and try to support a new Jaguars coach even if I didn't agree with the hire.  The problem is that Meyer kept disappointing.  I didn't like his approach to free agency.  I didn't like his approach to the draft.  I didn't like most of his trades.  Each time he made a bad move, I kept hoping that I was wrong and that Meyer was a secret genius.  However, the results on the field show the opposite.  He made the wrong moves and the team sucks as a result of it.  He's absolutely terrible and must go.

And he wasted our opportunity as a result.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The head coach can only do so much to fix a team like this so fast. Do you think your favorite head coach could win with this roster? I love our players, but they need some help like at wr and a lot on defense. The seahawks were desperate and they had a great home field advantage so it's not surprising this particular game happened.

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Can anyone tell me with a straight face that if you transplanted the Saints' staff and FO to Jax back in February we wouldn't be seeing a much better team right now?

(Saints are just one example of several)

I'll do you one better: This team would look better with Caldwell and Marrone.

Ouch!

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Fix the O-Line!

Marrone and DC would have been substantially better than this crap fest - and that's saying something...

Still in awe about Urban thinking it's not his job to have the team prepared...

I'm usually one for providing a long leash for a new staff/personnel but I'm actually done with this experiment with Meyer and co. It's obvious this isn't working out for this franchise because we would have seen even just blips of competence on and off the field other than Trevor.

I hear you. I know the record at this point was the same but this team feels worse than last year's team and that's even with the addition of a franchise level QB. Felt like they were improving a bit over the first 5 games but still nowhere near where they should be.

I was concerned with the Meyer hiring but willing to give it a chance. I was very concerned about Baalke. Both appear to be a complete disaster at this point.

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I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.

The head coach can only do so much to fix a team like this so fast. Do you think your favorite head coach could win with this roster? I love our players, but they need some help like at wr and a lot on defense. The seahawks were desperate and they had a great home field advantage so it's not surprising this particular game happened.

Not even my favorite HC…. Like others have said, Marrone would have this team more prepared to play which ultimately would have led to more wins.

Give Trevor Sean Payton, Belicheck, or Andy Reid and you honestly believe the Jags are still 1-6?! It’s not just the coaching but the overall roster management that’s the issue as well because Urban helped form this team.

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Comparing Meyer with established winning NFL coaches accomplishes nothing. No one was under the impression Meyer would come in here able to squeeze the most out of a depleted roster. He was expected to make the mistakes that any rookie coach would make, and we saw real improvement in each successive game. However, yesterday was an absolute train derailment. It was a relapse to week one. It was more than just bad players, the coaching staff couldn’t find their rear-ends with both hands.

We’ll see next week if this continues to trend downwards. No one expected many wins because of the talent deficit, but if they can’t even look organized then Khan needs to make a hard decision. I think it was a temporary relapse and stand by original position of allowing Meyer one season to get himself and his staff in order. However, too many games like this before the end of the season will have me reassessing my stance.

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Comparing Meyer with established winning NFL coaches accomplishes nothing. No one was under the impression Meyer would come in here able to squeeze the most out of a depleted roster. He was expected to make the mistakes that any rookie coach would make, and we saw real improvement in each successive game. However, yesterday was an absolute train derailment. It was a relapse to week one. It was more than just bad players, the coaching staff couldn’t find their rear-ends with both hands.

We’ll see next week if this continues to trend downwards. No one expected many wins because of the talent deficit, but if they can’t even look organized then Khan needs to make a hard decision. I think it was a temporary relapse and stand by original position of allowing Meyer one season to get himself and his staff in order. However, too many games like this before the end of the season will have me reassessing my stance.

Paying $12 million dollars to someone so they can learn how to coach.

Only the Jaguars could be that dumb

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Adrian from Inglewood, CA
Flat after a bye. The wolves howl for Urban.

Vic: Shad Khan is said to be "all in" on Meyer. Why? What does Khan see he likes? A win in London over the downtrodden Dolphins? Does Khan know anything about owning a football team beyond Lot J? The Jaguars' arrow is pointing down, and Trevor Lawrence is halfway through an unremarkable rookie season.

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Comparing Meyer with established winning NFL coaches accomplishes nothing. No one was under the impression Meyer would come in here able to squeeze the most out of a depleted roster. He was expected to make the mistakes that any rookie coach would make, and we saw real improvement in each successive game. However, yesterday was an absolute train derailment. It was a relapse to week one. It was more than just bad players, the coaching staff couldn’t find their rear-ends with both hands.

We’ll see next week if this continues to trend downwards. No one expected many wins because of the talent deficit, but if they can’t even look organized then Khan needs to make a hard decision. I think it was a temporary relapse and stand by original position of allowing Meyer one season to get himself and his staff in order. However, too many games like this before the end of the season will have me reassessing my stance.

Paying $12 million dollars to someone so they can learn how to coach.

Only the Jaguars could be that dumb

A completely raw coach at that.

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Comparing Meyer with established winning NFL coaches accomplishes nothing. No one was under the impression Meyer would come in here able to squeeze the most out of a depleted roster. He was expected to make the mistakes that any rookie coach would make, and we saw real improvement in each successive game. However, yesterday was an absolute train derailment. It was a relapse to week one. It was more than just bad players, the coaching staff couldn’t find their rear-ends with both hands.

We’ll see next week if this continues to trend downwards. No one expected many wins because of the talent deficit, but if they can’t even look organized then Khan needs to make a hard decision. I think it was a temporary relapse and stand by original position of allowing Meyer one season to get himself and his staff in order. However, too many games like this before the end of the season will have me reassessing my stance.

I’m not comparing Meyer with established coaches. He asked if anyone thought their favorite coach could win with this roster and the answer is yes.

Meyer has been a disaster since the moment he was signed so hopefully he gets the boot sooner than later.

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Paying $12 million dollars to someone so they can learn how to coach.

Only the Jaguars could be that dumb

A completely raw coach at that.

Of course. Because if he had any idea what he is doing then the move wouldn't be so dumb.

The Jaguars under Khan: continually pressing to show just how it can still be worse.

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I'm not sure it is Urban. How many coaches are we going to go through? There's something fundamentally wrong with this team and I don't know what.

I mean, we really only did a full coaching search and missed on Bradley. Marrone was dumb because he was handed the interim job after two dead cat bounce games, and Shad had Meyer laser eyed the entire time.

And Mularkey. Not to mention the countless Coordinators that have come through here. This just seems to be more than a coaching problem.

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Here we go again