I think you missed my point where I was saying that Joe Burrows’ hands were tiny and a big deal… and Pickett’s hands are WAY smaller than that. I like him just fine, I’m just saying what will hold him back. Plus, Pickett is absolutely not Joe Burrow

I follow the draft process very closely and I live in the Cincinnati area. I don't remember anything ever said about Burrows hands, but even if his hands were small, he has proved his doubters wrong. I think Pickett will too. With that said, Pickett is not Joe Burrow. Burrow is better. I would compare Pickett to Ryan Tannenhill. I don't really see any other QB in this draft class turning out to be a long term NFL starter. I do think Pickett will have a good NFL career.

Haha I guess not too, too closely. I know this is going to come off as a nuisance but all you got to do is google “Joe Burrow small hands” and see a bunch of articles talking about it.

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I follow the draft process very closely and I live in the Cincinnati area. I don't remember anything ever said about Burrows hands, but even if his hands were small, he has proved his doubters wrong. I think Pickett will too. With that said, Pickett is not Joe Burrow. Burrow is better. I would compare Pickett to Ryan Tannenhill. I don't really see any other QB in this draft class turning out to be a long term NFL starter. I do think Pickett will have a good NFL career.

Haha I guess not too, too closely. I know this is going to come off as a nuisance but all you got to do is google “Joe Burrow small hands” and see a bunch of articles talking about it.

It was never an issue here in Cincinnati. The Bengals had him in their sights from the minute the season ended. It might've been a big deal to others, but to the team that intended on drafting him, they could care less. Maybe other teams were playing it up in an attempt to get the Bengals not to draft him, but there was nothing that was gonna keep Cincinnati from selecting him outside of him committing a major felony before the draft.

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Haha I guess not too, too closely. I know this is going to come off as a nuisance but all you got to do is google “Joe Burrow small hands” and see a bunch of articles talking about it.

It was never an issue here in Cincinnati. The Bengals had him in their sights from the minute the season ended. It might've been a big deal to others, but to the team that intended on drafting him, they could care less. Maybe other teams were playing it up in an attempt to get the Bengals not to draft him, but there was nothing that was gonna keep Cincinnati from selecting him outside of him committing a major felony before the draft.

Man, I don’t think you’re getting me. One, there’s just no way you knew what the concerns in the Bengals organization was. I’m sure everything was talked about. You have to believe that the organization is a little more thorough than the word on the Cincinnati streets. But really you’re missing the point. Scouts, former players, a trend of shying away from smaller hand size, the hand size was damn near the only downside to his game. Kenny Pickett’s hand size is WAY WAY smaller than his without Burrows’ intangibles, winning pedigree, and pristine record as a prospect. I mean, he wears two gloves for a reason. That’s the point. Ultimately I’m saying I like Kenny Pickett and he’s going to land in a good spot because teams will pass on him high for something that’s probably not a big deal at all.

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It was never an issue here in Cincinnati. The Bengals had him in their sights from the minute the season ended. It might've been a big deal to others, but to the team that intended on drafting him, they could care less. Maybe other teams were playing it up in an attempt to get the Bengals not to draft him, but there was nothing that was gonna keep Cincinnati from selecting him outside of him committing a major felony before the draft.

Man, I don’t think you’re getting me. One, there’s just no way you knew what the concerns in the Bengals organization was. I’m sure everything was talked about. You have to believe that the organization is a little more thorough than the word on the Cincinnati streets. But really you’re missing the point. Scouts, former players, a trend of shying away from smaller hand size, the hand size was damn near the only downside to his game. Kenny Pickett’s hand size is WAY WAY smaller than his without Burrows’ intangibles, winning pedigree, and pristine record as a prospect. I mean, he wears two gloves for a reason. That’s the point. Ultimately I’m saying I like Kenny Pickett and he’s going to land in a good spot because teams will pass on him high for something that’s probably not a big deal at all.

Sorry, but I'm not gonna blindly go by the word of some guy on a football forum. I'm gonna wait for the official measurements to come out. Even then, I don't see how any of these other QB's are gonna be able to pass Pickett. It's such a poor draft class. Small hands or not, he's just a better QB than the rest of the class.

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Man, I don’t think you’re getting me. One, there’s just no way you knew what the concerns in the Bengals organization was. I’m sure everything was talked about. You have to believe that the organization is a little more thorough than the word on the Cincinnati streets. But really you’re missing the point. Scouts, former players, a trend of shying away from smaller hand size, the hand size was damn near the only downside to his game. Kenny Pickett’s hand size is WAY WAY smaller than his without Burrows’ intangibles, winning pedigree, and pristine record as a prospect. I mean, he wears two gloves for a reason. That’s the point. Ultimately I’m saying I like Kenny Pickett and he’s going to land in a good spot because teams will pass on him high for something that’s probably not a big deal at all.

Sorry, but I'm not gonna blindly go by the word of some guy on a football forum. I'm gonna wait for the official measurements to come out. Even then, I don't see how any of these other QB's are gonna be able to pass Pickett. It's such a poor draft class. Small hands or not, he's just a better QB than the rest of the class.

Don’t take my word for it, random guy. Here are the official measurements

https://twitter.com/risendraft/status/14...95139?s=21

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-midse...15316.html

Also, what’s with you? I also think Pickett’s the best QB? Like why aren’t you grasping what I’m saying “his draft stock will be affected by his hand size and push him to a team with a good roster like New Orleans or Pittsburgh”

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Sorry, but I'm not gonna blindly go by the word of some guy on a football forum. I'm gonna wait for the official measurements to come out. Even then, I don't see how any of these other QB's are gonna be able to pass Pickett. It's such a poor draft class. Small hands or not, he's just a better QB than the rest of the class.

Don’t take my word for it, random guy. Here are the official measurements

https://twitter.com/risendraft/status/14...95139?s=21

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-midse...15316.html

Also, what’s with you? I also think Pickett’s the best QB? Like why aren’t you grasping what I’m saying “his draft stock will be affected by his hand size and push him to a team with a good roster like New Orleans or Pittsburgh”

So just some random guy on some website is supposed to have official measurements? Again, I'm gonna wait until the official measurements. As far as the hand size, I understand what you are saying, but I believe talent will win out over measurables. It's a simple concept.

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No way Pickett's hands are THAT small...

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Really will be sad if Hutch goes top 3 I am really getting my heart set on him.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/draft/moc...ar-jaguars

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We could use a pass rusher obviously, but I wouldn't be opposed to Stingley. That kid is going to be a superstar. Ball skills off the charts.

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We could use a pass rusher obviously, but I wouldn't be opposed to Stingley. That kid is going to be a superstar. Ball skills off the charts.

Stingley can't stay healthy. He's played a total of only 10 games in the last 2 seasons total. Ahmad Gardner is the best lock down CB in the draft and he stays healthy.

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We could use a pass rusher obviously, but I wouldn't be opposed to Stingley. That kid is going to be a superstar. Ball skills off the charts.

Stingley can't stay healthy. He's played a total of only 10 games in the last 2 seasons total. Ahmad Gardner is the best lock down CB in the draft and he stays healthy.

I like Gardner, but not in the top 5. The only CB I'd consider there is Stingley, and that is if he shows he is fully healthy. Also for the record I would prefer a pass rusher in the top 5, but I can't deny his talent and wouldn't be upset if Urban went that route. He runs a 4.3 with a 42 inch vert at 6'1 200lb and possesses off the charts ball skills. I definitely understand the injury concern though, availability is the best ability. We would just have to hope he's just been unlucky with the foot. If he has injury problems back to high school I would be concerned for sure. 

I am really starting to lean towards a trade down though. Maybe trade down pick up Gardner and we really could use a WR later in the first.

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Stingley can't stay healthy. He's played a total of only 10 games in the last 2 seasons total. Ahmad Gardner is the best lock down CB in the draft and he stays healthy.

I like Gardner, but not in the top 5. The only CB I'd consider there is Stingley, and that is if he shows he is fully healthy. Also for the record I would prefer a pass rusher in the top 5, but I can't deny his talent and wouldn't be upset if Urban went that route. He runs a 4.3 with a 42 inch vert at 6'1 200lb and possesses off the charts ball skills. I definitely understand the injury concern though, availability is the best ability. We would just have to hope he's just been unlucky with the foot. If he has injury problems back to high school I would be concerned for sure. 

I am really starting to lean towards a trade down though. Maybe trade down pick up Gardner and we really could use a WR later in the first.

The best thing that could happen for the Jags would be for one of the top college quarterbacks to really light it up from now through the combine. This would make it more likely for the Jaguars to have the opportunity to trade back (not too far) and get additional high picks to address their many needs.

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I am clearly biased and have little information on who Dan Campbell so this is all wishful thinking but I feel like Matt Corral fits Dan Campbell’s weird, tough guy shtick. He’s got a huge personality as well. Might keep an eye on him as a potential top pick. I also think Corral is an awesome QB and will crush it in interviews and his Pro Day. Having Jared Goff makes it easier for him to sit and learn, too.

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I am clearly biased and have little information on who Dan Campbell so this is all wishful thinking but I feel like Matt Corral fits Dan Campbell’s weird, tough guy shtick. He’s got a huge personality as well. Might keep an eye on him as a potential top pick. I also think Corral is an awesome QB and will crush it in interviews and his Pro Day. Having Jared Goff makes it easier for him to sit and learn, too.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if this happens. I don't think it would be the right move, but when have the Lions ever made the right move with the exception of Megatron? They have messed up as many picks as the Jaguars and their desperation for a potential franchise quarterback is likely going to cause them to reach for either Corral or Willis. This might hurt the Jaguars opportunity for a trade down, but increase their likelihood of getting the top player (or 2nd ) on their draft board (Thibodeaux, Hutchinson, Stingley, Neal or Odabo).

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I am clearly biased and have little information on who Dan Campbell so this is all wishful thinking but I feel like Matt Corral fits Dan Campbell’s weird, tough guy shtick. He’s got a huge personality as well. Might keep an eye on him as a potential top pick. I also think Corral is an awesome QB and will crush it in interviews and his Pro Day. Having Jared Goff makes it easier for him to sit and learn, too.

I just don't think the Lions are gonna take a QB with that first pick. They have a ton of holes to fill and they need to take the BAP. With that said, remember they also have the Rams first round pick as well. That is where I believe they will target a QB. Possibly Carson Strong of Nevada or Desmond Ridder of Cincinnati. It really doesn't matter that much. Many of these QB's are pretty much interchangeable.

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I am clearly biased and have little information on who Dan Campbell so this is all wishful thinking but I feel like Matt Corral fits Dan Campbell’s weird, tough guy shtick. He’s got a huge personality as well. Might keep an eye on him as a potential top pick. I also think Corral is an awesome QB and will crush it in interviews and his Pro Day. Having Jared Goff makes it easier for him to sit and learn, too.

I just don't think the Lions are gonna take a QB with that first pick. They have a ton of holes to fill and they need to take the BAP. With that said, remember they also have the Rams first round pick as well. That is where I believe they will target a QB. Possibly Carson Strong of Nevada or Desmond Ridder of Cincinnati. It really doesn't matter that much. Many of these QB's are pretty much interchangeable.

Wonder if Brennan Armstrong would make sense in Detroit. His QB coach is Brunell so that would be a good fit with both being left handed. Also Sewell at RT would basically make him the LT since lefties basically flip everyone on the offense.

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I am clearly biased and have little information on who Dan Campbell so this is all wishful thinking but I feel like Matt Corral fits Dan Campbell’s weird, tough guy shtick. He’s got a huge personality as well. Might keep an eye on him as a potential top pick. I also think Corral is an awesome QB and will crush it in interviews and his Pro Day. Having Jared Goff makes it easier for him to sit and learn, too.

I just don't think the Lions are gonna take a QB with that first pick. They have a ton of holes to fill and they need to take the BAP. With that said, remember they also have the Rams first round pick as well. That is where I believe they will target a QB. Possibly Carson Strong of Nevada or Desmond Ridder of Cincinnati. It really doesn't matter that much. Many of these QB's are pretty much interchangeable.

Interchangeable, prolly, but the pundits are talking up the top three as first rounders, meaning Corral, Willis and Picket. If Cincy gets to the playoff and tha QB lights it up, look for him to possibly move way up. The point is that we Want QBs to get hyped up to the top of the first round. The more the better to allow us to get the BAP of the rest of the board. That is what I hope for anyway

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I am clearly biased and have little information on who Dan Campbell so this is all wishful thinking but I feel like Matt Corral fits Dan Campbell’s weird, tough guy shtick. He’s got a huge personality as well. Might keep an eye on him as a potential top pick. I also think Corral is an awesome QB and will crush it in interviews and his Pro Day. Having Jared Goff makes it easier for him to sit and learn, too.

I just don't think the Lions are gonna take a QB with that first pick. They have a ton of holes to fill and they need to take the BAP. With that said, remember they also have the Rams first round pick as well. That is where I believe they will target a QB. Possibly Carson Strong of Nevada or Desmond Ridder of Cincinnati. It really doesn't matter that much. Many of these QB's are pretty much interchangeable.

Interchangeable, prolly, but the pundits are talking up the top three as first rounders, meaning Corral, Willis and Picket. If Cincy gets to the playoff and tha QB lights it up, look for him to possibly move way up. The point is that we Want QBs to get hyped up to the top of the first round. The more the better to allow us to get the BAP of the rest of the board. That is what I hope for anyway

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I am clearly biased and have little information on who Dan Campbell so this is all wishful thinking but I feel like Matt Corral fits Dan Campbell’s weird, tough guy shtick. He’s got a huge personality as well. Might keep an eye on him as a potential top pick. I also think Corral is an awesome QB and will crush it in interviews and his Pro Day. Having Jared Goff makes it easier for him to sit and learn, too.

...why does Goff need to sit and learn at this point?

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Picking 2nd after today

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Watched Thibodeaux for first time yesterday. Hard pass. This guy has bust written all over him. Never draft someone from Oregon in the 1st round.

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