Ebola, West Nile, and the Spanish Flu are all viruses that have done so.

Mutated to become stronger?

Yes, all three evolved to become more infectious and deadlier. Here's a piece on the flu that talks about it.

https://www.livescience.com/1918-flu-var...issue.html

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qrSbTIA2Lw&t=19s

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

Mutated to become stronger?

Yes, all three evolved to become more infectious and deadlier. Here's a piece on the flu that talks about it.

https://www.livescience.com/1918-flu-var...issue.html

Interesting but clearly that is not the norm for a virus.  Also, what about variants after that?

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Yes, all three evolved to become more infectious and deadlier. Here's a piece on the flu that talks about it.

https://www.livescience.com/1918-flu-var...issue.html

Interesting but clearly that is not the norm for a virus.  Also, what about variants after that?

Global pandemics aren't really the norm either. The Spanish Flu was H1N1 which we still have today, sometimes like 2009 it's significant while other years not so much.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Interesting but clearly that is not the norm for a virus.  Also, what about variants after that?

Global pandemics aren't really the norm either. The Spanish Flu was H1N1 which we still have today, sometimes like 2009 it's significant while other years not so much.

But I am guessing they grew weaker overall?

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Global pandemics aren't really the norm either. The Spanish Flu was H1N1 which we still have today, sometimes like 2009 it's significant while other years not so much.

But I am guessing they grew weaker overall?

I guess if you look at it over the span of 100 years that's accurate as we've only had two pandemics of the swine flu since the first one.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Do we know very much about flu seasons prior to 1919? The hypothesis I heard was that H1N1 had been absent or dormant for at least a century so the immune system of every human alive at that point had "forgotten" about it. Is that possibly true?

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Mutated to become stronger?

Yes, all three evolved to become more infectious and deadlier. Here's a piece on the flu that talks about it.

https://www.livescience.com/1918-flu-var...issue.html

They are basing this whole article and paper on 5 lungs .... what did you call those studies to do with covid?

They can't even make any statements that are definite. They mention different strands in different parts of the world but then assume that 2 lungs from people who died had the latest strand even though they were from different parts of the world. Travel was limited so older strands and multiple strands could easily exist.

Yes the 2nd and 3rd waves killed the most people but the virus also wasn't in a human form to maximize transmission. It was still mutating from birds. So yes it mutated to be transmitted by humans but that made it more deadly to humans. Then it mutated further to stop killing everyone in 2-3 days or so like wave 2 did. Then after winter and wave 3 it was gone because it was no longer deadly.

Do we know very much about flu seasons prior to 1919? The hypothesis I heard was that H1N1 had been absent or dormant for at least a century so the immune system of every human alive at that point had "forgotten" about it. Is that possibly true?

They are a lot of similarities between how it was handled then and now. Masks, lock downs, travel, poor treatment, etc and it all caused lots of deaths just like now. It also failed to stop anything then also.

There was 1 town in the Midwest that shut outsiders out and they were successful at keeping it out of the town. There's not a ton out there but you can find the real stories about what was going on as opposed to just the fear porn msm stuff.


You can find conspiracy theories that are similar stuff as today. Both being released to create vaccines and vaccines causing it. Vaccine and pharma industries were not large yet or not having the large impact that they have today. The industry was growing after that. Interesting things to think about with the timing and what was happening in the world then.


Just the origins in the US is a little weird with some military testing of another vaccine at the base and then people getting sick there. Not saying the vaccine did it but you don't know what the military was doing and experimenting on soldiers during WW1.

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A good mate of mine just got covid

He is fully vaxxed

This was his words " just all around crap dont know what u r gonna get each day...but generally just runny/blocked nose bad headache and a bugger all sore throat"

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My fully vaxxed son is dealing with COVID right now. He has a fever, sinus headache, a little congestion and a general feeling of malaise. What we used to call a bad cold.

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My fully vaxxed son is dealing with COVID right now. He has a fever, sinus headache, a little congestion and a general feeling of malaise. What we used to call a bad cold.

When I got Covid last January before the vaccines it  was the weirdest sickness I’ve ever had. No taste, no smell and ohhh so very tired.

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I got COVID over the holidays. I believe I was exposed the same day or day after I got my booster from a group I went to lunch with. I actually just thought I was hungover/low on sleep, but Friday (Xmas eve) I had a slightly sore throat and some minor congestion, so I took an at home test since I was planning to get together with my nieces, who are 3, and my dad, who is 70 and is a recent cancer survivor, and it turns out I was positive.

Usually, the cold I get once or twice a year is way worse, and I only had those minor symptoms for 3-4 days and then I was symptom free. One weird thing I noticed was that, typically when I get a cold and I get congestion in my chest, the mucus is green and nasty looking, with COVID and the little congestion I had in my chest, the mucus was all clear.

My wife had it over the summer when the Delta wave was dominant, both of us were fully vaxxed, she had similar minor symptoms, but lost her sense of smell for a few days. I never had symptoms so I never got tested. My wife also got boosted a few days after I did, and she just tested positive again yesterday after exhibiting some minor cold symptoms similar to mine. So, she's vaxxed, boosted, had a prior infection, and got it again.

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My biggest worry is I travel overseas in a couple of weeks and have to show a negative test taken within 48 hours of departure to fly. This new strain is so contagious it seems like everyone is going to contract it. I’m already starting to progressively self-quarantine.

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My biggest worry is I travel overseas in a couple of weeks and have to show a negative test taken within 48 hours of departure to fly. This new strain is so contagious it seems like everyone is going to contract it. I’m already starting to progressively self-quarantine.

I'd be more worried about having to test negative to get back home, which at this point, is pretty stupid and pointless.

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Mandates are especially stupid when everyone NOW knows that the vaccinated CAN and DO spread the virus...

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

Mandates are especially stupid when everyone NOW knows that the vaccinated CAN and DO spread the virus...

It's unfortunate that vaccinated people spread the virus, but, mandates are still valuable for reducing hospitalization and reducing sick days.

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Mandates are especially stupid when everyone NOW knows that the vaccinated CAN and DO spread the virus...

It's unfortunate that vaccinated people spread the virus, but, mandates are still valuable for reducing hospitalization and reducing sick days.

no, they are not valuable. I swear you believe everything the media tells you... Turn off the news and just TRY to think for yourself, for once.

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

It's unfortunate that vaccinated people spread the virus, but, mandates are still valuable for reducing hospitalization and reducing sick days.

no, they are not valuable. I swear you believe everything the media tells you... Turn off the news and just TRY to think for yourself, for once.

I don't agree with mandates on the private sector, except for health care workers.  I see the downsides and taking away the freedom of choice.  The bad outweighs the good.  But there is good.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

no, they are not valuable. I swear you believe everything the media tells you... Turn off the news and just TRY to think for yourself, for once.

I don't agree with mandates on the private sector, except for health care workers.  I see the downsides and taking away the freedom of choice.  The bad outweighs the good.  But there is good.

You can’t have it both ways bro, either mandates work or they don’t. Think about it, and if it doesn’t make sense for one then it doesn’t make sense for anyone.

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

I don't agree with mandates on the private sector, except for health care workers.  I see the downsides and taking away the freedom of choice.  The bad outweighs the good.  But there is good.

You can’t have it both ways bro, either mandates work or they don’t. Think about it, and if it doesn’t make sense for one then it doesn’t make sense for anyone.

You are truly a great thinker.  I am in awe of your ability to distill so many different scenarios into a single yes or no answer.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.