I really didn't want to wade back into the cesspool this thread had become, but this stat is too good. Trevor already among the best in the league at avoiding pressures/pocket manipulation/getting rid of the ball timely/whatever traits you want to think leads to being really good at this stat. Awesome sign.

(It could also mean he got lucky and will regress to the mean but I don't want to think like that at the moment.)

https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/14...0195971077

Noted future first-ballot hall-of-famers who lack the sack-avoidance skills of TL includes Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers and Big Ben.  In fact, 78% of the playoff-bound teams have QB's that take sacks at a greater rate than TL.  It's almost as if taking a sack is yet one more important decision a QB needs to make.

1. Buffalo, third seed
2. KC, second
3. LAC, miss
4. Philly, seventh
5. Vikes, miss
5. Jags, miss
7. Dallas, third
8. Giants, miss
9. Colts, miss
10. Miami, miss
11. Bucs, second
12. Broncs, miss
13. Cards, fifth
14. Raiders, fifth
15. Atlanta, miss
16. Seattle, miss
17. Rams, fourth
18. Pats, sixth
19. Cheese eaters, first
20. Carolina, miss
21. Detroit, miss
22. Washington Football Team, miss
23. Baltimore, miss
24. Houstons, miss
25. SFO, sixth
26. Titans, first
27. Steelers, seventh
28. Chicago, miss
29. Bengals, fourth
30. Jets, miss
31. Browns, miss

Please stop.  You're now trying to paint taking sacks as a positive.  It's laughable.

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I really didn't want to wade back into the cesspool this thread had become, but this stat is too good. Trevor already among the best in the league at avoiding pressures/pocket manipulation/getting rid of the ball timely/whatever traits you want to think leads to being really good at this stat. Awesome sign.

(It could also mean he got lucky and will regress to the mean but I don't want to think like that at the moment.)

https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/14...0195971077

Noted future first-ballot hall-of-famers who lack the sack-avoidance skills of TL includes Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers and Big Ben.  In fact, 78% of the playoff-bound teams have QB's that take sacks at a greater rate than TL.  It's almost as if taking a sack is yet one more important decision a QB needs to make.

1. Buffalo, third seed
2. KC, second
3. LAC, miss
4. Philly, seventh
5. Vikes, miss
5. Jags, miss
7. Dallas, third
8. Giants, miss
9. Colts, miss
10. Miami, miss
11. Bucs, second
12. Broncs, miss
13. Cards, fifth
14. Raiders, fifth
15. Atlanta, miss
16. Seattle, miss
17. Rams, fourth
18. Pats, sixth
19. Cheese eaters, first
20. Carolina, miss
21. Detroit, miss
22. Washington Football Team, miss
23. Baltimore, miss
24. Houstons, miss
25. SFO, sixth
26. Titans, first
27. Steelers, seventh
28. Chicago, miss
29. Bengals, fourth
30. Jets, miss
31. Browns, miss

Idiot

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I really didn't want to wade back into the cesspool this thread had become, but this stat is too good. Trevor already among the best in the league at avoiding pressures/pocket manipulation/getting rid of the ball timely/whatever traits you want to think leads to being really good at this stat. Awesome sign.

(It could also mean he got lucky and will regress to the mean but I don't want to think like that at the moment.)

https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/14...0195971077

Noted future first-ballot hall-of-famers who lack the sack-avoidance skills of TL includes Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers and Big Ben.  In fact, 78% of the playoff-bound teams have QB's that take sacks at a greater rate than TL.  It's almost as if taking a sack is yet one more important decision a QB needs to make.

1. Buffalo, third seed
2. KC, second
3. LAC, miss
4. Philly, seventh
5. Vikes, miss
5. Jags, miss
7. Dallas, third
8. Giants, miss
9. Colts, miss
10. Miami, miss
11. Bucs, second
12. Broncs, miss
13. Cards, fifth
14. Raiders, fifth
15. Atlanta, miss
16. Seattle, miss
17. Rams, fourth
18. Pats, sixth
19. Cheese eaters, first
20. Carolina, miss
21. Detroit, miss
22. Washington Football Team, miss
23. Baltimore, miss
24. Houstons, miss
25. SFO, sixth
26. Titans, first
27. Steelers, seventh
28. Chicago, miss
29. Bengals, fourth
30. Jets, miss
31. Browns, miss

It's almost as if making the playoffs isn't just about whether you have a good quarterback.

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Aaaaand back out of this cesspool of a thread.

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Hmm... Just my opinion, but I think a list that has the best and worst QBs spread through it is probably not any sort of indication of...well...anything. The problem is that list isn't tied to anything meaningful, particularly in terms of good decisions. A QB who just randomly wings the ball down the field if he feels pressure, beats the guy who tries to stand in there to make the most out of the play until the last second. If it were tied to amount of turnovers, completion percentage, first down percentage, etc. per pressure you'd probably see something much more substantial.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

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Disappointing bust.

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“Jags should have drafted Mac Jones”

Hahahahahaha

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“Jags should have drafted Mac Jones”

Hahahahahaha

Shhh. Too soon.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

lol I got on the board just to see these posts. I’m very happy with Lawrence as our QB of the future. We just need to build a team around him like the Bills did for Allan.

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lol I got on the board just to see these posts. I’m very happy with Lawrence as our QB of the future. We just need to build a team around him like the Bills did for Allan.

Allen's rookie season 52.8% comp, 2074 passing yards, 10 TD, 12 INT in 12 games. Zay Jones was his leading receiver. It was Jones' 2nd season in the league.

Allen's 2nd season 58.8% comp, 3089 passing yards, 20 TD, 9 INT in 16 games. John Brown was his leading receiver.

It wasn't until Allen's 3rd year in the league when he really took off. This was also the year they brought in Stefon Diggs. 69.2% comp, 4544 passing yards, 37 TD 10 INT in 16 games.

Lawrence's rookie season 59.6% comp, 3641 passing yards, 12 TD, 17 INT in 17 games. Marvin Jones was his leading receiver and Trevor was thrown into arguably the worst situation ANY rookie QB has ever been thrown into in NFL history. This whole situation was a mess from the jump with Meyer and nobody can deny that.

He definitely has things he needs to work on and clean up, nobody can deny that either, but one thing that's hard for QBs to develop is a real feel for the pocket. Pocket presence is key in the NFL and Lawrence already has a good feel for it.

He has shown FAR more positives in his game this season than negatives. They have got to get the guy some help around him this off season.

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“Jags should have drafted Mac Jones”

Hahahahahaha

Dang I was gonna post this. Why you gotta spoil my fun?

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“Jags should have drafted Mac Jones”

Hahahahahaha

The mods should make it that jackass's title.

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“Jags should have drafted Mac Jones”

Hahahahahaha

The mods should make it that jackass's title.status 

Status quo response:

"You can't judge him based on one game."

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“Jags should have drafted Mac Jones”

Hahahahahaha

The mods should make it that jackass's title.

Which jackass?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The mods should make it that jackass's title.

Which jackass?

Why discriminate? Anyone who has sincerely expressed the sentiment should get the honor of such a title.

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This thread has allowed the chuckleheads who haven’t a clue how to evaluate a rookie QB to reveal themselves as such.

No mod designations are required.

The ones that a actually continue to post when Lawrence makes their horrendous analysis look foolish week after week next year will have to lie in the bed they so diligently made here.

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This thread has allowed the chuckleheads who haven’t a clue how to evaluate a rookie QB to reveal themselves as such.

No mod designations are required.

The ones that a actually continue to post when Lawrence makes their horrendous analysis look foolish week after week next year will have to lie in the bed they so diligently made here.

How's that gonna happen if everyone is blocked?   

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Notice he’s not even his own thread…

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So now we are judging Mac Jones on one game just like Lawrence in one game. Let's pretend the other 16 or 17 games didn't happen I guess?

Nothing new in this thread. Continue this next year. Cause if we are judging Lawrence on his entire rookie year, it overall was very poor. Mac Jones had a great overall rookie year. Nothing has changed. There is literally nothing in this thread that will change til next year.

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