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Head Coach Candidates (Merged Threads)
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(01-19-2022, 11:44 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote:Dilla seems to think it’s down to Leftwich (the favorite) Hackett and Eberflus.(01-19-2022, 08:49 PM)p_rushing Wrote: He's also one of the few coaches not in the playoffs. They may not need 2nd round interviews for the unemployed coaches either. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(01-20-2022, 08:25 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:(01-19-2022, 11:44 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: The Jaguars requested first interviews with 10 people. Only 3 of those people (Leftwich, Hackett and Bowles) are still involved in the playoffs. Has the list been narrowed to four candidates? I know it's still possible that additional people will be invited for a second interview, but if so, why hasn't that happened yet? How long does it really take to schedule an interview with someone who isn't actively coaching?Dilla seems to think it’s down to Leftwich (the favorite) Hackett and Eberflus. Probably all good picks. But I wouldn't focus too much on the latest results they've had as coordinators. And I wouldn't necessarily pick who I think is the best coordinator. Of course, it is absolutely necessary for a head coach to understand the job of his coordinators and their systems. I think that handicapped Urban Meyer immensely. I think the focus should be on who can provide steady strong leadership. And of course maintain credibility with the players- something UM completely flunked when he stayed in Cincy after that game. (01-19-2022, 11:44 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote:(01-19-2022, 08:49 PM)p_rushing Wrote: He's also one of the few coaches not in the playoffs. They may not need 2nd round interviews for the unemployed coaches either. I liken it to pre-darft scouting: You schedule first interviews with 10 guys, get a good idea of who they are, what their priorities will be, how prepared they are to assemble a staff, etc. You begin to prioritize candidates based on how the interview went, how you see them working with the existing roster core, or other factors. Some coaches end up eliminated from the "board" You also begin sorting out which teams you're competing with for the top candidates' services. If few to no other teams are expressing interest in a lower candidate, the urgency to interview is not there. If unemployed coach is #7 on your list, probably not crucial to invest time and effort into that second interview right now. If there's only 6 openings, there's a good chance one of your higher priority candidates will be getting the job offer. Probably better to be working on arrangements with the candidates' agents to set up times, flights, compensation packages, etc. in advance of their schedule coming open. You can't wait until the whistle blows to get those wheels in motion. It also goes a long way to express to that priority candidate that they are in fact a priority. If you're busy interviewing a bunch of second-rate coaches for the job and then tell them "You're the one we've been hoping to hire," that message may seem to be empty flattery. (01-20-2022, 12:30 AM)D6 Wrote:(01-19-2022, 09:45 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: Thing is, who are the guys saying good interview? Balke and Kahn, right? Those two hold the hiring decision. ...wasn't A. A. Ron rumored to be interested in playing there? I want to say a lot of last offseason's unrest has been smoothed out, but holy moly would that be a major move. It might not allow Hackett to prove his own ability, but they'd be fools not to give that pairing a shot before he hangs up the cleats.
I don't think Rodgers ever had a problem with the coaches once McCarthy was out. it was the FO he had a problem with.
That being said, if I'm the Broncos GM I'm making sure as much as possible what Rodgers think of Hacket as HC in Denver. (01-19-2022, 10:11 PM)Newton Wrote: I’m calling it now. It’s going to be Byron. If Leftwich is hired, it's not completely crazy to think he might consider Cullen as DC since they share some common history with the Jags. But my guess is he'd want to put together his own staff.
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Yeah I think the radio guys are right that Byron would need a d coordinator he could basically totally turn the defense over to, Sean Mcvay style.
I think the bucs could be in trouble vs the rams. This game is going to be very interesting. Well, we will see what happens and if the bucs lose, if that leads to a certain coach being hired with the jags or some where else
I think it would be nice to not have to learn new systems on both sides of the ball as well.
I wouldn't be so quick to root for other teams to poach our non Byron candidates. All it would take then is for Byron to choose the Bears or to wait for a more appealing opening next year and then we are completely hosed.
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I feel like I'm the only person on the board who is not completely on board with the hotshot offensive coordinator route.
(01-20-2022, 01:33 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I feel like I'm the only person on the board who is not completely on board with the hotshot offensive coordinator route. Count me in as well. I would take much closer looks at which coordinators got the most out of a lousy roster, like Cullen has with us. Hackett was a bum according to most people on this board when he was here, and now he's a leading candidate just cause he's got Rodgers? Do the extra work here and look at who gets the most out of the talent they have.
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01-20-2022, 01:55 PM
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After all the jags atrocious offenses every year after year, what do you expect? If the jags hire an "experienced" coach who is not an offensive minded guy, what do you think will probably happen again? We will have to HOPE that he hires the right offensive coordinator. That's a lot more hoops to jump through leading to more things that can go wrong. No thanks.
(01-20-2022, 01:52 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:(01-20-2022, 01:33 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I feel like I'm the only person on the board who is not completely on board with the hotshot offensive coordinator route. I think I'm just more on the Caldwell or Bowles bandwagon. I know there was a discussion about BB making retreads seem better than not, but I just feel that the entire football side of this organization needs a solid philosophy and foundation that is has not had since JDR even if people eventually soured on him. And I think having the prior HC coaching experience and maybe more of a CEO mindset would help them better set that up for the franchise right now. I worry that OC's being considered would have trouble getting that correct on the first go along with trying to take on double duty of calling plays/running the offense. On top of that, I have some hesitations with the 3 most people are being considered:
I know that ideally you want to maximize Lawrence's rookie contract to build a contender and win a title now, but I just don't think that is realistically possible given the state of the team and lack of cohesiveness of the football side. Additionally, the competition in the AFC with young gifted QB's -- Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, Allen, Lamar, Jones, and Watson if he ever plays agains -- means that just having a great QB will probably not be enough to just get to the Super Bowl during Lawrence's career. He will need good pieces around him, and a coaching staff that can scheme for him, find weaknesses in other teams, and make adjustments on the fly. It really comes down to how they interview and how they lay out their plans (not just the A plan, but the B-Z plans when obstacles or issues pop up) to the decision makers. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (01-20-2022, 01:55 PM)Jag88 Wrote: After all the jags atrocious offenses every year after year, what do you expect? If the jags hire an "experienced" coach who is not an offensive minded guy, what do you think will probably happen again? We will have to HOPE that he hires the right offensive coordinator. That's a lot more hoops to jump through leading to more things that can go wrong. No thanks. Any coach being hired should be expected to lay out how they want the offense to be. Even if they are not specifically calling plays, they should be expected to have a well thought offensive philosophy and structure for a team. If you need an example for that, just look at Vrabel. He is a defensive minded guy and they had a good foundation with a run-first offensive mindset. But Henry wasn't Hoss he has become, they still had Mariota.They have since lost LaFleur and Arthur Smith, both guys who were not considered obvious HC choices before their Tennessee stints, and still have an above average offense (when healthy) with a non-elite QB.
01-20-2022, 02:38 PM
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(01-20-2022, 10:04 AM)Mikey Wrote:(01-19-2022, 11:44 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: The Jaguars requested first interviews with 10 people. Only 3 of those people (Leftwich, Hackett and Bowles) are still involved in the playoffs. Has the list been narrowed to four candidates? I know it's still possible that additional people will be invited for a second interview, but if so, why hasn't that happened yet? How long does it really take to schedule an interview with someone who isn't actively coaching? As a HC, the luxury of having Aaron Rodgers at QB would likely lead Nathaniel Hackett to do what it takes to make it a reality. TV network executives would jump for joy in having at least 2 Broncos-Chiefs matchups.
(01-20-2022, 02:10 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:(01-20-2022, 01:52 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: Count me in as well. I would take much closer looks at which coordinators got the most out of a lousy roster, like Cullen has with us. Hackett was a bum according to most people on this board when he was here, and now he's a leading candidate just cause he's got Rodgers? Do the extra work here and look at who gets the most out of the talent they have. Let's see Bucs Arians former OC 49ers K. Shanahan former OC with Garoppolo Bengals Zac Taylor former QB coach GB Matt Lafleur former OC Rams Sean McVay former OC Others Nick Sirianni Frank Reich There are more and they all are much better than what we've had in years.
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(01-20-2022, 10:41 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote: I don't think Rodgers ever had a problem with the coaches once McCarthy was out. it was the FO he had a problem with. The Packers using a 1st Round pick on a QB in 2020 was the straw that figuratively broke Aaron Rodgers' back. (01-20-2022, 11:19 AM)MarleyJag Wrote:(01-19-2022, 10:11 PM)Newton Wrote: I’m calling it now. It’s going to be Byron. It's realistically possible that Byron Leftwich would want to hire one of the Bucs Defensive position coaches as Jags DC. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
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(01-20-2022, 02:42 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:(01-20-2022, 02:10 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I think I'm just more on the Caldwell or Bowles bandwagon. I know there was a discussion about BB making retreads seem better than not, but I just feel that the entire football side of this organization needs a solid philosophy and foundation that is has not had since JDR even if people eventually soured on him. And I think having the prior HC coaching experience and maybe more of a CEO mindset would help them better set that up for the franchise right now. Is the goal just better than Jags have been since early 00's or Super Bowl win/bust? True, it may still be too early to judge Shanahan, Taylor, LaFleur, McVay, and Sirianni on the latter scale, but none have won that yet. Also, you cannot just choose all the successes. You would have see the percentage successes versus all the failures.
I feel like Byron is hungry. He has been around the best for the past 2 years. He has played QB relatively recently (the guy is younger than Tom Brady). All of his former teammates who are Jaguar greats have endorsed him (jimmy, Fred, etc). Is it a risk? Sure. However, I am sure Byron is going to give this all he has.
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