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What Rick Spielman Would Bring to the Jaguars
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(02-16-2022, 11:46 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote:(02-16-2022, 11:33 AM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: This Jagged poster is an absolute toolA learning tool? Glad I could educate you. Ok, I have to admit, that one made me lol.
I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.
Check out the Jag's Forum Alternative: Duval Football Fans. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (02-16-2022, 11:46 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote:(02-16-2022, 11:33 AM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: This Jagged poster is an absolute toolA learning tool? Glad I could educate you. Oh to suffer the slings and arrows of the uninformed. Where were you and what were you doing when the NFL selected Jacksonville? If you are a younger fan, how did you come to follow the team? Do you remember the big win over the steelers in 95? Do you remember Andre Rison and the rise of Brunell? Do you remeber the Anderson miss and the miracle run? The team returning to a heros welcome in the middle of the night? Fred Taylor the three rivers king? The heartbreak in 1999 to know the up and coming team's window had closed? Del Rio and the no more 3 yards and a cloud of dust? Keep chopping wood? Mojo in Pittsburgh? Trading a draft for pass rushers? In Gene We Trust? Crash and burn drafting and free agent cash grabs? Sale of the team Mike Murlarky folly Ice cream Gus Bus sprinkles The Boat error Marroney Balogney Foles our hero Here we go again This fan board is a labor of love and gift as social media pages have replaced message boards. We have been through a lot and are tired of slogans and know better bragging by just got here posters. All are welcome but come on read the replies. We have been through a lot and it seems disengenious to dismiss what we are saying about Baalke. Ae can chicken or egg the Myer mess but the reality is they agreed to work and support each other and "change the culture". Sweep the leg Khan take out the trash
Birth of the Franchise - November 30, 1993
Death of the Franchise - November 29, 2011 Fans deserve better. Thanks for all the good times too many are in the past. (02-16-2022, 10:02 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote:(02-16-2022, 09:27 AM)Mikey Wrote: Because if you had been here before Bevell signed with us, you'd have understood that we've endured a decade and a half of bad darfting, pitiful front office hires, unrest among players toward coaches, management and ownership, and we're [BLEEP] done with that song and dance. We want professionalism, harmony, and expertise, and you're not checking a lot of those boxes when TB is your de facto decision maker. Because he's played too big of a role in too many toxic environments over the last few years. In fact, in his last 5 years as a GM, he's had 5 different head coaches, at least 3 of which he ran off on his own. As far as San Fran goes, he inherited a stacked roster and ran that team into the ground his last 3 years there. Short answer, he's toxic and it's hard to see that changing. Curious question, and I'm not trying to be mean or funny or anything... Genuinely would like to know, why are you still here now that Bevell is definitely gone?
(02-16-2022, 12:14 PM)MoJagFan Wrote:You make a great post MoJag and those all sound like exciting times. I'm glad you were able to experience them firsthand.(02-16-2022, 11:46 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: A learning tool? Glad I could educate you. As far as Baalke, I'm not trying to be disengenious to your plight, rather reconsider all the pitchfork pointing. He's only engaged in one free agency and draft cycle so far, right. And that was likely tarnished by the clueless Meyer. Not much of a sample size to go on. I do issue a warning on Spielman, if he gets the nod for evp. It's not all that glitters is gold with him. In any event, MoJag, here's to you experiencing those glory days again. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(02-16-2022, 12:30 PM)scottyg Wrote:Why would you concern yourself with San Francisco's prior business? If you're a Jags fan, it seems that's all that should be pertinent.(02-16-2022, 10:02 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: OK, I get the frustration, but as you just claimed, he hasn't even been in charge of his own draft or free agency yet, so why is he being skewered. I mean, give the guy a chance. You just hired a head coach that experienced plenty of friction before he departed his last team. Why doesn't Baalke get that same benefit of the doubt in his second chance? I'm here for the honor of dialoguing with you, scottyg. (02-16-2022, 12:58 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote:(02-16-2022, 12:30 PM)scottyg Wrote: Because he's played too big of a role in too many toxic environments over the last few years. In fact, in his last 5 years as a GM, he's had 5 different head coaches, at least 3 of which he ran off on his own.Why would you concern yourself with San Francisco's prior business? If you're a Jags fan, it seems that's all that should be pertinent. My issue with Baalke has less to do with his ability to identify talent (although he's had more than his share of misses) and more to do with his inability to have a stable relationship with the coaching staffs that he's worked with. Last thing the Jags need is *more* chaos in the FO.
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I found a turd floating in my pool. Upon looking closer I realized Baalke was floating around in there completely uninvited.
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(02-16-2022, 12:58 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote:(02-16-2022, 12:30 PM)scottyg Wrote: Because he's played too big of a role in too many toxic environments over the last few years. In fact, in his last 5 years as a GM, he's had 5 different head coaches, at least 3 of which he ran off on his own.Why would you concern yourself with San Francisco's prior business? If you're a Jags fan, it seems that's all that should be pertinent. Past performance is quite often an indicator of future performance... You can't possibly be this obtuse. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(02-16-2022, 01:16 PM)scottyg Wrote:Perhaps, but man, let the guy at least collaborate with Pederson for one season before you turn the wolves loose on him. You never know, he might surprise.(02-16-2022, 12:58 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: Why would you concern yourself with San Francisco's prior business? If you're a Jags fan, it seems that's all that should be pertinent. I think the fans have made their message loud and clear, so I'd expect nothing less than Baalke's A game in the offseason. Remember, Pederson and scouting dept. is a big part of this too. (02-16-2022, 01:32 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote:(02-16-2022, 01:16 PM)scottyg Wrote: Past performance is quite often an indicator of future performance... You can't possibly be this obtuse.Perhaps, but man, let the guy at least collaborate with Pederson for one season before you turn the wolves loose on him. You never know, he might surprise. It seems we're stuck with Baalke regardless, so I certainly hope he has learned from his past and can make a positive contribution sans toxicity. (02-16-2022, 10:02 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote:(02-16-2022, 09:27 AM)Mikey Wrote: Because if you had been here before Bevell signed with us, you'd have understood that we've endured a decade and a half of bad darfting, pitiful front office hires, unrest among players toward coaches, management and ownership, and we're [BLEEP] done with that song and dance. We want professionalism, harmony, and expertise, and you're not checking a lot of those boxes when TB is your de facto decision maker. TeamUrbz were saying the same thing this time last year when the rest of us velcro-using spork eaters were unhappy with the shiny new hire. Guess what we cited as the reason for discontent? HIS PRIOR HISTORY AT TEAMS HE RAN BEFORE COMING TO DUVAL. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(02-16-2022, 02:22 PM)Mikey Wrote:I think it was just the Niners, right?(02-16-2022, 10:02 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: OK, I get the frustration, but as you just claimed, he hasn't even been in charge of his own draft or free agency yet, so why is he being skewered. I mean, give the guy a chance. You know, I'd guess the TeamUrbz supporters wouldn't be on their high horse then if they knew what they know now. Everything he touched turned to sewage. He is for sure in the top 3 as far as coaching disasters in the NFL. With that said, it's time to see what all of these guys can do with a clean slate.
(02-16-2022, 02:32 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote:(02-16-2022, 02:22 PM)Mikey Wrote: TeamUrbz were saying the same thing this time last year when the rest of us velcro-using spork eaters were unhappy with the shiny new hire.I think it was just the Niners, right? There is no clean slate as long as Baalke is still here!
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