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2022 Free Agency Wish List


Gallup and the Cowboys are close to a contract. FA is already dwindling quick...
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(This post was last modified: 03-05-2022, 12:06 AM by Bullseye. Edited 1 time in total.)

(03-04-2022, 09:21 PM)Upper Wrote: Gallup and the Cowboys are close to a contract. FA is already dwindling quick...

This sort of thing happens every spring. That's how I learned to temper my enthusiasm over free agency until it actually starts.

(03-04-2022, 12:24 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(03-04-2022, 12:16 PM)Protozoa Wrote: Cooper likely to be released by the cowboys per PFT.

With Mike Williams and Chris Godwin most likely being retained by their current teams, Cooper would be our best option. I call his agent as soon as he is released and offer a front loaded contract. If we could land Cooper via free agency and add 2-3 young WR's via the draft, we many be able to get Trevor back on track.

(03-03-2022, 09:45 AM)Bullseye Wrote: I gained a whole new appreciation for the show when they had reruns in the 1990s.  I liked JR even more and hated Cliff Barnes made me roll my eyes tremendously....even as I type this now.

Me too. I was a kid at the time and I started watching those shows with my mom. Knots Landing was another one that we watched a lot. It was a spinoff of Dallas. I miss those type of shows. Now everything seems to be reality shows.
I hate those things with a passion.  They have no relation whatsoever with reality or quality entertainment.

Between those things and the Jaguars struggling for so long, I wonder if I was somehow deficient in a prior life and this is karma getting back at me.
 

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(03-05-2022, 12:01 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-04-2022, 09:21 PM)Upper Wrote: Gallup and the Cowboys are close to a contract. FA is already dwindling quick...

This sort of thing happens every spring.  That's how I learned to temper my enthusiasm over free agency until it actually starts.

(03-04-2022, 12:24 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: With Mike Williams and Chris Godwin most likely being retained by their current teams, Cooper would be our best option. I call his agent as soon as he is released and offer a front loaded contract. If we could land Cooper via free agency and add 2-3 young WR's via the draft, we many be able to get Trevor back on track.


Me too. I was a kid at the time and I started watching those shows with my mom. Knots Landing was another one that we watched a lot. It was a spinoff of Dallas. I miss those type of shows. Now everything seems to be reality shows.
I hate those things with a passion.  They have no relation whatsoever with reality or quality entertainment.

Between those things and the Jaguars struggling for so long, I wonder if I was somehow deficient in a prior life and this is karma getting back at me.

I totally agree 100%. LOL.
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I think we get Scherff, Ertz, maybe Barnett and Robinson
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(03-05-2022, 08:00 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I think we get Scherff, Ertz, maybe Barnett and Robinson

I would have some mized feelings about a class like this.

From a pure quality standoiuint, it would far exceed last year's class.

Ertz showed last year he still has something left in the tank and he knows the offense.

I think Scherff can get us some quality snaps for us at G.

Robinson would be a nice get, but he alone would be far from the answer at WR.  If we left FA having just signed him, the position would still be a top 3-4 priority in the draft.

Barnett played 4-3 DE with the Eagles under Pederson.  Unsure how well he would transition to 3-4 OLB, but I liked him coming out of Tennessee.

From a talent and experience perspective, this would be a decent haul, but it would be older than the typical FA haul I would want.  My fear is that they would all be one year stopgaps and we'll have to spend more money at the same positions in a year or two.  We won't have that much more time left under TL's rookie contract.  We gotta make it count for the longest time possible.
 

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(03-05-2022, 08:12 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 08:00 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I think we get Scherff, Ertz, maybe Barnett and Robinson

I would have some mized feelings about a class like this.

From a pure quality standoiuint, it would far exceed last year's class.

Ertz showed last year he still has something left in the tank and he knows the offense.

I think Scherff can get us some quality snaps for us at G.

Robinson would be a nice get, but he alone would be far from the answer at WR.  If we left FA having just signed him, the position would still be a top 3-4 priority in the draft.

Barnett played 4-3 DE with the Eagles under Pederson.  Unsure how well he would transition to 3-4 OLB, but I liked him coming out of Tennessee.

From a talent and experience perspective, this would be a decent haul, but it would be older than the typical FA haul I would want.  My fear is that they would all be one year stopgaps and we'll have to spend more money at the same positions in a year or two.  We won't have that much more time left under TL's rookie contract.  We gotta make it count for the longest time possible.
I don’t want any part of Ertz. I think his best days are far far behind him. 

Maybe if the price is right but if he gets a 4 year contract, that’s a hard no from me.
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I think realistically this would be ideal for me now going into the next few weeks (note, I am listing multiple players at the same position, this does not mean I want everyone signed):

Offense:
Chase Edmonds - RB - Arizona
D'Ernest Johnson - RB - Cleveland
Darrel Williams - RB - Kansas City 
Jakobi Meyers - WR - New England
Russell Gage - WR - Atlanta
Deonte Harris - WR - New Orleans
Mike Gesicki - TE - Miami
Zach Ertz - TE - Arizona
Dave Njoku - TE - Cleveland
Terron Armstead - LT - New Orleans
Cam Robinson - LT - Jacksonville
Josh Wells - RT - Tampa Bay
Dennis Kelly - RT - Green Bay 
Brandon Scherff - G - Washington
Laken Tomlinson - G San Francisco

Defense:
Chandler Jones - DE - Arizona
Emmanuel Ogbah - DE - Miami
Austin Johnson - DT - New York 
Larry Ogunjobi - DT - Cleveland
Damien Wilson - OLB - Jacksonville
Kyzir White - OLB - Los Angeles
Alex Anzalone - OLB - Detroit
Haason Reddick - OLB - Arizona
Ja'Whaun Bentley - ILB - New England
Alec Ogletree - ILB - Chicago
Kenny Young - ILB - Denver
J.C Jackson - CB - New England
Justin Coleman - CB - Miami
Brandon King - FS - New England
Daniel Sorensen - SS - Kansas City
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(03-05-2022, 08:12 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 08:00 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I think we get Scherff, Ertz, maybe Barnett and Robinson

I would have some mized feelings about a class like this.

From a pure quality standoiuint, it would far exceed last year's class.

Ertz showed last year he still has something left in the tank and he knows the offense.

I think Scherff can get us some quality snaps for us at G.

Robinson would be a nice get, but he alone would be far from the answer at WR.  If we left FA having just signed him, the position would still be a top 3-4 priority in the draft.

Barnett played 4-3 DE with the Eagles under Pederson.  Unsure how well he would transition to 3-4 OLB, but I liked him coming out of Tennessee.

From a talent and experience perspective, this would be a decent haul, but it would be older than the typical FA haul I would want.  My fear is that they would all be one year stopgaps and we'll have to spend more money at the same positions in a year or two.  We won't have that much more time left under TL's rookie contract.  We gotta make it count for the longest time possible.

I don't want any one-year signings, especially on offense.  We can't fill every hole in one offseason, and we won't be serious contenders for a playoff spot this year, so what's the point?  Focus on younger players with potential upside and develop a team around Trevor with guys who will still be here in 2-3 years.  As we become a contender, they can take some pride in what they've accomplished and are more likely to want to continue being a part of it.
When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.
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(03-05-2022, 08:58 AM)Sneakers Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 08:12 AM)Bullseye Wrote: I would have some mized feelings about a class like this.

From a pure quality standoiuint, it would far exceed last year's class.

Ertz showed last year he still has something left in the tank and he knows the offense.

I think Scherff can get us some quality snaps for us at G.

Robinson would be a nice get, but he alone would be far from the answer at WR.  If we left FA having just signed him, the position would still be a top 3-4 priority in the draft.

Barnett played 4-3 DE with the Eagles under Pederson.  Unsure how well he would transition to 3-4 OLB, but I liked him coming out of Tennessee.

From a talent and experience perspective, this would be a decent haul, but it would be older than the typical FA haul I would want.  My fear is that they would all be one year stopgaps and we'll have to spend more money at the same positions in a year or two.  We won't have that much more time left under TL's rookie contract.  We gotta make it count for the longest time possible.

I don't want any one-year signings, especially on offense.  We can't fill every hole in one offseason, and we won't be serious contenders for a playoff spot this year, so what's the point?  Focus on younger players with potential upside and develop a team around Trevor with guys who will still be here in 2-3 years.  As we become a contender, they can take some pride in what they've accomplished and are more likely to want to continue being a part of it.
I understand your concerns completely and share them.

But to be clear, when I describe them as one year stopgaps above, I don't necessarily mean these would literally be one year contracts.  They would be 2-3 year deals, but given the age of the players, possible decline of those players, and how the contracts could be structured, it could work out that way.
 

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(This post was last modified: 03-05-2022, 11:02 AM by TheO-LineMatters.)

(03-05-2022, 08:00 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I think we get Scherff, Ertz, maybe Barnett and Robinson

I really thought we were gonna get some big name players last offseason. I've learned to temper my expectations. If we landed a premium FA like Scherff, I'd probably pass out from disbelief. I'd pass on Ertz. He's on the wrong side of 30, so who knows how much longer he can be productive? TE's normally have a shorter shelf life. I really like this TE class a lot. I wanna draft a TE fairly early, who can grow a long with Trevor Lawrence.

(03-05-2022, 08:12 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 08:00 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I think we get Scherff, Ertz, maybe Barnett and Robinson

I would have some mized feelings about a class like this.

From a pure quality standoiuint, it would far exceed last year's class.

Ertz showed last year he still has something left in the tank and he knows the offense.

I think Scherff can get us some quality snaps for us at G.

Robinson would be a nice get, but he alone would be far from the answer at WR.  If we left FA having just signed him, the position would still be a top 3-4 priority in the draft.

Barnett played 4-3 DE with the Eagles under Pederson.  Unsure how well he would transition to 3-4 OLB, but I liked him coming out of Tennessee.

From a talent and experience perspective, this would be a decent haul, but it would be older than the typical FA haul I would want.  My fear is that they would all be one year stopgaps and we'll have to spend more money at the same positions in a year or two.  We won't have that much more time left under TL's rookie contract.  We gotta make it count for the longest time possible.

I was assuming this was referring to re-signing Cam Robinson.

(03-05-2022, 09:17 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 08:58 AM)Sneakers Wrote: I don't want any one-year signings, especially on offense.  We can't fill every hole in one offseason, and we won't be serious contenders for a playoff spot this year, so what's the point?  Focus on younger players with potential upside and develop a team around Trevor with guys who will still be here in 2-3 years.  As we become a contender, they can take some pride in what they've accomplished and are more likely to want to continue being a part of it.
I understand your concerns completely and share them.

But to be clear, when I describe them as one year stopgaps above, I don't necessarily mean these would literally be one year contracts.  They would be 2-3 year deals, but given the age of the players, possible decline of those players, and how the contracts could be structured, it could work out that way.

We need to front load those contracts while we have the cap space. That way it's easier to get out of those deals without having a lot of dead money on the books in future years.
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(03-05-2022, 08:53 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I think realistically this would be ideal for me now going into the next few weeks (note, I am listing multiple players at the same position, this does not mean I want everyone signed):

Offense:
Chase Edmonds - RB - Arizona
D'Ernest Johnson - RB - Cleveland
Darrel Williams - RB - Kansas City 
Jakobi Meyers - WR - New England
Russell Gage - WR - Atlanta
Deonte Harris - WR - New Orleans
Mike Gesicki - TE - Miami
Zach Ertz - TE - Arizona
Dave Njoku - TE - Cleveland
Terron Armstead - LT - New Orleans
Cam Robinson - LT - Jacksonville
Josh Wells - RT - Tampa Bay
Dennis Kelly - RT - Green Bay 
Brandon Scherff - G - Washington
Laken Tomlinson - G San Francisco

Defense:
Chandler Jones - DE - Arizona
Emmanuel Ogbah - DE - Miami
Austin Johnson - DT - New York 
Larry Ogunjobi - DT - Cleveland
Damien Wilson - OLB - Jacksonville
Kyzir White - OLB - Los Angeles
Alex Anzalone - OLB - Detroit
Haason Reddick - OLB - Arizona
Ja'Whaun Bentley - ILB - New England
Alec Ogletree - ILB - Chicago
Kenny Young - ILB - Denver
J.C Jackson - CB - New England
Justin Coleman - CB - Miami
Brandon King - FS - New England
Daniel Sorensen - SS - Kansas City

I like a lot of these on your two lists. but it seems I saw somewhere Norwell was 2nd best FA Guard? If the price was decent I wouldn't mind re-signing him as long as there is no "helicoptering" allowed in the contract. LOL As much as I like Ertz, the other two TEs are a better target. If we could get both Jones and Reddick from Arizona that would be sweet. I don't think I would chase Anzalone though. Def want Wilson re-signed but e is ILB not OLB. Maybe one of the CBs but not any safeties.
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(03-05-2022, 08:12 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 08:00 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I think we get Scherff, Ertz, maybe Barnett and Robinson

I would have some mized feelings about a class like this.

From a pure quality standoiuint, it would far exceed last year's class.

Ertz showed last year he still has something left in the tank and he knows the offense.

I think Scherff can get us some quality snaps for us at G.

Robinson would be a nice get, but he alone would be far from the answer at WR.  If we left FA having just signed him, the position would still be a top 3-4 priority in the draft.

Barnett played 4-3 DE with the Eagles under Pederson.  Unsure how well he would transition to 3-4 OLB, but I liked him coming out of Tennessee.

From a talent and experience perspective, this would be a decent haul, but it would be older than the typical FA haul I would want.  My fear is that they would all be one year stopgaps and we'll have to spend more money at the same positions in a year or two.  We won't have that much more time left under TL's rookie contract.  We gotta make it count for the longest time possible.
Agreed about Barnett and I have thought about that.  But if Doug really liked him I think they could find away to use him.  I think we go hard after one of Allen Robinson or Amari Cooper
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(03-05-2022, 03:46 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 08:12 AM)Bullseye Wrote: I would have some mized feelings about a class like this.

From a pure quality standoiuint, it would far exceed last year's class.

Ertz showed last year he still has something left in the tank and he knows the offense.

I think Scherff can get us some quality snaps for us at G.

Robinson would be a nice get, but he alone would be far from the answer at WR.  If we left FA having just signed him, the position would still be a top 3-4 priority in the draft.

Barnett played 4-3 DE with the Eagles under Pederson.  Unsure how well he would transition to 3-4 OLB, but I liked him coming out of Tennessee.

From a talent and experience perspective, this would be a decent haul, but it would be older than the typical FA haul I would want.  My fear is that they would all be one year stopgaps and we'll have to spend more money at the same positions in a year or two.  We won't have that much more time left under TL's rookie contract.  We gotta make it count for the longest time possible.
Agreed about Barnett and I have thought about that.  But if Doug really liked him I think they could find away to use him.  I think we go hard after one of Allen Robinson or Amari Cooper

Without knowing how the defense is going to be, I'm not sure.

Now Caldwell named Jim Johnson first on his list of defensive schematic influences.  If I extrapolate correctly, that means there will be a blitz heavy approach.

If this is the case, it's unlikely Barnett would be tasked with dropping into coverage too much, which would make me more comfirtable with him as a 3-4 OLB .
 

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(03-05-2022, 06:01 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 03:46 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Agreed about Barnett and I have thought about that.  But if Doug really liked him I think they could find away to use him.  I think we go hard after one of Allen Robinson or Amari Cooper

Without knowing how the defense is going to be, I'm not sure.

Now Caldwell named Jim Johnson first on his list of defensive schematic influences.  If I extrapolate correctly, that means there will be a blitz heavy approach.

If this is the case, it's unlikely Barnett would be tasked with dropping into coverage too much, which would make me more comfirtable with him as a 3-4 OLB .

Also are we positive we're sticking with the 34 main set on defense?
I see a lot of comments about 34 and olb rushers etc... I haven't read up a lot so I'm wondering what's the possibility of reverting back to a 43 since that was a Meyer staff thing?
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(03-05-2022, 07:28 PM)Kane Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 06:01 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Without knowing how the defense is going to be, I'm not sure.

Now Caldwell named Jim Johnson first on his list of defensive schematic influences.  If I extrapolate correctly, that means there will be a blitz heavy approach.

If this is the case, it's unlikely Barnett would be tasked with dropping into coverage too much, which would make me more comfirtable with him as a 3-4 OLB .

Also are we positive we're sticking with the 34 main set on defense?
I see a lot of comments about 34 and olb rushers etc... I haven't read up a lot so I'm wondering what's the possibility of reverting back to a 43 since that was a Meyer staff thing?

We're sticking with a 3-4 defense. We hired an ILB coach and an OLB coach. That is a pretty clear indicator.
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(03-05-2022, 07:28 PM)Kane Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 06:01 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Without knowing how the defense is going to be, I'm not sure.

Now Caldwell named Jim Johnson first on his list of defensive schematic influences.  If I extrapolate correctly, that means there will be a blitz heavy approach.

If this is the case, it's unlikely Barnett would be tasked with dropping into coverage too much, which would make me more comfirtable with him as a 3-4 OLB .

Also are we positive we're sticking with the 34 main set on defense?
I see a lot of comments about 34 and olb rushers etc... I haven't read up a lot so I'm wondering what's the possibility of reverting back to a 43 since that was a Meyer staff thing?
Doug said we're sticking with a 3-4
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(03-05-2022, 08:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 08:12 AM)Bullseye Wrote: I would have some mized feelings about a class like this.

From a pure quality standoiuint, it would far exceed last year's class.

Ertz showed last year he still has something left in the tank and he knows the offense.

I think Scherff can get us some quality snaps for us at G.

Robinson would be a nice get, but he alone would be far from the answer at WR.  If we left FA having just signed him, the position would still be a top 3-4 priority in the draft.

Barnett played 4-3 DE with the Eagles under Pederson.  Unsure how well he would transition to 3-4 OLB, but I liked him coming out of Tennessee.

From a talent and experience perspective, this would be a decent haul, but it would be older than the typical FA haul I would want.  My fear is that they would all be one year stopgaps and we'll have to spend more money at the same positions in a year or two.  We won't have that much more time left under TL's rookie contract.  We gotta make it count for the longest time possible.
I don’t want any part of Ertz. I think his best days are far far behind him. 

Maybe if the price is right but if he gets a 4 year contract, that’s a hard no from me.

I was only thinking of a 1 year deal...two at most.

A stopgap whose presence would not change my intent to draft a TE pretty high, and help the other TEs and QB learn the offense.
 

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(03-07-2022, 09:13 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/...fIiciz4W5Q

Not a surprise at all. Smart move by Kansas City. I see them signing him to a big, long term deal.
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(03-07-2022, 10:26 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(03-07-2022, 09:13 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/...fIiciz4W5Q

Not a surprise at all. Smart move by Kansas City. I see them signing him to a big, long term deal.

They better hope so for what they gave up to get him.  I think the franchise tag should be only for players drafted by that team.  They should make that rule imo
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