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Mauricio Garcia is a brown Mexican gang banger, but for some reason the papers want us to believe he's Adolf's grandson. Now why, oh why, would that be so? Why would they want to blame mass shootings on the border by illegal immigrants on Whitey? Whatever purpose could they have for creating another White Hispanic situation?

Those questions are rhetorical of course, we know why.
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(05-08-2023, 10:49 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(05-08-2023, 09:17 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: It doesn't matter.. Never said it did.

Not buying it though and not going to. He blames LibsofTikTok for radicalizing him and that's complete bull [BLEEP]. All LibsofTikTok is doing is reposting what these left wing lunatics are originally posting. Sort of a concierge of stupidity. He radicalized himself because he lacked the cognitive thinking process that should have brought common sense into the equation.

What say you, Casper?

Yeah I'm not seeing what you're seeing and I don't need to.  We should all be very careful about what we see on social media.  The posts that get boosted and shared are often emotionally manipulative and we should be very deliberate about whether we let that into our lives or not. The creators (or human aggregators) usually know they're being manipulative, but they usually don't realize how many different directions that manipulation can go.  The LibsofTikTok guys are just going for "libs are ridiculous, don't trust them." And that's most of what they get.  But some small fraction of viewers are getting "I should never be friends with a lib" and on to "I should disown any libs in my family" and finally with enough pre existing mental illness there's "I should go shoot all the libs".

Which is what I'm always on about.  There's a lot of dangerous stuff being said and a lot of dangerous technology amplifying it.  Let's start being more positive and constructive, please.  There are plenty of things you can follow that share positive messages about people from all walks of life, and with and without traditional values.  Follow those.

Lol. Peace, love, and media propaganda. Libs of Tiktok sows discord, but not the news you consume, right? I have been telling you for years that our media is divisive, profit driven, and partisan. What makes it different than Libs of Tiktok? Establishment support? When are you going to stop consuming it? 

And before you try to draw some line about what makes it different, understand that I am saying the legacy media does EXACTLY what you claim above in that it amplifies selective outrage and sends it out to its consuming base with little to no regard of how that impacts the small percentage of people who react poorly to it. How about you develop some real principles that will help you see this [BLEEP] for what it really is, without being told what to think. Follow those.
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(05-09-2023, 07:24 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(05-08-2023, 10:49 PM)mikesez Wrote: Yeah I'm not seeing what you're seeing and I don't need to.  We should all be very careful about what we see on social media.  The posts that get boosted and shared are often emotionally manipulative and we should be very deliberate about whether we let that into our lives or not. The creators (or human aggregators) usually know they're being manipulative, but they usually don't realize how many different directions that manipulation can go.  The LibsofTikTok guys are just going for "libs are ridiculous, don't trust them." And that's most of what they get.  But some small fraction of viewers are getting "I should never be friends with a lib" and on to "I should disown any libs in my family" and finally with enough pre existing mental illness there's "I should go shoot all the libs".

Which is what I'm always on about.  There's a lot of dangerous stuff being said and a lot of dangerous technology amplifying it.  Let's start being more positive and constructive, please.  There are plenty of things you can follow that share positive messages about people from all walks of life, and with and without traditional values.  Follow those.

Lol. Peace, love, and media propaganda. Libs of Tiktok sows discord, but not the news you consume, right? I have been telling you for years that our media is divisive, profit driven, and partisan. What makes it different than Libs of Tiktok? Establishment support? When are you going to stop consuming it? 

And before you try to draw some line about what makes it different, understand that I am saying the legacy media does EXACTLY what you claim above in that it amplifies selective outrage and sends it out to its consuming base with little to no regard of how that impacts the small percentage of people who react poorly to it. How about you develop some real principles that will help you see this [BLEEP] for what it really is, without being told what to think. Follow those.

I've told you my media consumption habits.  I only read news. If someone is reading the news to you, they are manipulating you.  Full stop. Also, I've taken cnn.com off my list because they want me to register and frankly they're not worth it.  I subscribe to the Atlantic, the Economist, National Affairs and The Dispatch.  Of the four, The Dispatch is the only one I read thoroughly, and The Atlantic is the only one that regularly dabbles in emotional manipulation. Not coincidentally it's the one I read the least thoroughly. I do some NPR podcasts but not news ones. Occasionally I check ap.com but that's a little scattershot. They have no obvious agenda but they also have no obvious organization to their site.
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(05-08-2023, 11:38 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Mauricio Garcia is a brown Mexican gang banger, but for some reason the papers want us to believe he's Adolf's grandson. Now why, oh why, would that be so? Why would they want to blame mass shootings on the border by illegal immigrants on Whitey? Whatever purpose could they have for creating another White Hispanic situation?

Those questions are rhetorical of course, we know why.

Why would you want to blame mass shootings by ex-Army service members on illegal immigrants?
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(05-09-2023, 07:24 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(05-08-2023, 10:49 PM)mikesez Wrote: Yeah I'm not seeing what you're seeing and I don't need to.  We should all be very careful about what we see on social media.  The posts that get boosted and shared are often emotionally manipulative and we should be very deliberate about whether we let that into our lives or not. The creators (or human aggregators) usually know they're being manipulative, but they usually don't realize how many different directions that manipulation can go.  The LibsofTikTok guys are just going for "libs are ridiculous, don't trust them." And that's most of what they get.  But some small fraction of viewers are getting "I should never be friends with a lib" and on to "I should disown any libs in my family" and finally with enough pre existing mental illness there's "I should go shoot all the libs".

Which is what I'm always on about.  There's a lot of dangerous stuff being said and a lot of dangerous technology amplifying it.  Let's start being more positive and constructive, please.  There are plenty of things you can follow that share positive messages about people from all walks of life, and with and without traditional values.  Follow those.

Lol. Peace, love, and media propaganda. Libs of Tiktok sows discord, but not the news you consume, right? I have been telling you for years that our media is divisive, profit driven, and partisan. What makes it different than Libs of Tiktok? Establishment support? When are you going to stop consuming it? 

And before you try to draw some line about what makes it different, understand that I am saying the legacy media does EXACTLY what you claim above in that it amplifies selective outrage and sends it out to its consuming base with little to no regard of how that impacts the small percentage of people who react poorly to it. How about you develop some real principles that will help you see this [BLEEP] for what it really is, without being told what to think. Follow those.

So which is worse? LoTT showing how stupid people can be? Or the people doing these stupid acts?

From what I've seen, LoTT is showing us the news that Legacy Media refuses to show us.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...4G3aw&s=19

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...BVDpg&s=19

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...Ll9wg&s=19

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...SqA9g&s=19

There's the last handful of Tweets by LoTT.. You show me where any of those are dangerous and divisive!

I'm pretty sure LoTT is actually showing you who the divisive ones really are..

I can keep going with their tweets, but the very next Tweet contains extremely graphic and pornographic material.. It shows oral sex between 2 children, illustrated in a childrens book, found in a school library.. 

But yeah, it's LoTT who is the divisive one..

Legacy Media was all over some of those stories, right?

Maybe take a break from NPR, dude..

Sorry, L2L.. This was directed towards Mikey.
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(05-09-2023, 10:18 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 07:24 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Lol. Peace, love, and media propaganda. Libs of Tiktok sows discord, but not the news you consume, right? I have been telling you for years that our media is divisive, profit driven, and partisan. What makes it different than Libs of Tiktok? Establishment support? When are you going to stop consuming it? 

And before you try to draw some line about what makes it different, understand that I am saying the legacy media does EXACTLY what you claim above in that it amplifies selective outrage and sends it out to its consuming base with little to no regard of how that impacts the small percentage of people who react poorly to it. How about you develop some real principles that will help you see this [BLEEP] for what it really is, without being told what to think. Follow those.

So which is worse? LoTT showing how stupid people can be? Or the people doing these stupid acts?

From what I've seen, LoTT is showing us the news that Legacy Media refuses to show us.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...4G3aw&s=19

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...BVDpg&s=19

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...Ll9wg&s=19

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...SqA9g&s=19

There's the last handful of Tweets by LoTT.. You show me where any of those are dangerous and divisive!

I'm pretty sure LoTT is actually showing you who the divisive ones really are..

I can keep going with their tweets, but the very next Tweet contains extremely graphic and pornographic material.. It shows oral sex between 2 children, illustrated in a childrens book, found in a school library.. 

But yeah, it's LoTT who is the divisive one..

Legacy Media was all over some of those stories, right?

Maybe take a break from NPR, dude..

Sorry, L2L.. This was directed towards Mikey.

Sorry, like I told you.  Twitter is now in the same category as CNN.  Ask me for a user name and password, so you can give me targeted ads, but don't provide any original content? Pass.
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(05-09-2023, 10:36 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 10:18 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: So which is worse? LoTT showing how stupid people can be? Or the people doing these stupid acts?

From what I've seen, LoTT is showing us the news that Legacy Media refuses to show us.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...4G3aw&s=19

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...BVDpg&s=19

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...Ll9wg&s=19

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/...SqA9g&s=19

There's the last handful of Tweets by LoTT.. You show me where any of those are dangerous and divisive!

I'm pretty sure LoTT is actually showing you who the divisive ones really are..

I can keep going with their tweets, but the very next Tweet contains extremely graphic and pornographic material.. It shows oral sex between 2 children, illustrated in a childrens book, found in a school library.. 

But yeah, it's LoTT who is the divisive one..

Legacy Media was all over some of those stories, right?

Maybe take a break from NPR, dude..

Sorry, L2L.. This was directed towards Mikey.

Sorry, like I told you.  Twitter is now in the same category as CNN.  Ask me for a user name and password, so you can give me targeted ads, but don't provide any original content? Pass.

And you have absolutely ZERO idea what you're talking about. Sounds like you don't even use Twitter.
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(05-09-2023, 09:56 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 07:24 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Lol. Peace, love, and media propaganda. Libs of Tiktok sows discord, but not the news you consume, right? I have been telling you for years that our media is divisive, profit driven, and partisan. What makes it different than Libs of Tiktok? Establishment support? When are you going to stop consuming it? 

And before you try to draw some line about what makes it different, understand that I am saying the legacy media does EXACTLY what you claim above in that it amplifies selective outrage and sends it out to its consuming base with little to no regard of how that impacts the small percentage of people who react poorly to it. How about you develop some real principles that will help you see this [BLEEP] for what it really is, without being told what to think. Follow those.

I've told you my media consumption habits.  I only read news. If someone is reading the news to you, they are manipulating you.  Full stop. Also, I've taken cnn.com off my list because they want me to register and frankly they're not worth it.  I subscribe to the Atlantic, the Economist, National Affairs and The Dispatch.  Of the four, The Dispatch is the only one I read thoroughly, and The Atlantic is the only one that regularly dabbles in emotional manipulation. Not coincidentally it's the one I read the least thoroughly. I do some NPR podcasts but not news ones.  Occasionally I check ap.com but that's a little scattershot.  They have no obvious agenda but they also have no obvious organization to their site.

Who cares what you consume? That has nothing to do with my point about your hypocrisy. LibsofTikTok did not make this shooter any more than the legacy media. This dude has mental issues, but we're supposed to believe white supremacy is this evil force in America, converting Mexicans into neo-Nazis' that target and kill white people. There is nothing coherent in that story at all. It's pure gaslighting. 

Here's the story: Man with mental issues shoots up mall. Same is true for the Trans shooter. Same is true for the Columbine shooters. 

White Supremacy is a red herring. His race is a red herring. His victims are a red herring. When a crime is based solely off an ideology, it should be part of the story. Otherwise, it's fodder for the weak-minded.
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(05-09-2023, 10:39 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 10:36 AM)mikesez Wrote: Sorry, like I told you.  Twitter is now in the same category as CNN.  Ask me for a user name and password, so you can give me targeted ads, but don't provide any original content? Pass.

And you have absolutely ZERO idea what you're talking about. Sounds like you don't even use Twitter.

I don't use Twitter, and I won't, and no one should. I said that before and after Elon came along.
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(05-09-2023, 10:40 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 09:56 AM)mikesez Wrote: I've told you my media consumption habits.  I only read news. If someone is reading the news to you, they are manipulating you.  Full stop. Also, I've taken cnn.com off my list because they want me to register and frankly they're not worth it.  I subscribe to the Atlantic, the Economist, National Affairs and The Dispatch.  Of the four, The Dispatch is the only one I read thoroughly, and The Atlantic is the only one that regularly dabbles in emotional manipulation. Not coincidentally it's the one I read the least thoroughly. I do some NPR podcasts but not news ones.  Occasionally I check ap.com but that's a little scattershot.  They have no obvious agenda but they also have no obvious organization to their site.

Who cares what you consume? That has nothing to do with my point about your hypocrisy. LibsofTikTok did not make this shooter any more than the legacy media. This dude has mental issues, but we're supposed to believe white supremacy is this evil force in America, converting Mexicans into neo-Nazis' that target and kill white people. There is nothing coherent in that story at all. It's pure gaslighting. 

Here's the story: Man with mental issues shoots up mall. Same is true for the Trans shooter. Same is true for the Columbine shooters. 

White Supremacy is a red herring. His race is a red herring. His victims are a red herring. When a crime is based solely off an ideology, it should be part of the story. Otherwise, it's fodder for the weak-minded.

Maybe, but it seems Caldrac, FSG, and Winger all disagree with you about that.  Maybe lay off me and take it up with them.
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(05-09-2023, 11:03 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 10:39 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: And you have absolutely ZERO idea what you're talking about. Sounds like you don't even use Twitter.

I don't use Twitter, and I won't, and no one should.  I said that before and after Elon came along.

And that's why you have ZERO idea what you're talking about.
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(05-09-2023, 11:35 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 11:03 AM)mikesez Wrote: I don't use Twitter, and I won't, and no one should.  I said that before and after Elon came along.

And that's why you have ZERO idea what you're talking about.

I'm telling you that you don't need LibsofTikTok in your life.  You already mistrust the libs.  You don't need to spend more of your day learning new reasons why.  Nothing good will come of it.  I do know what I'm talking about because I read what you write. That's all the facts I need to reach my conclusion.
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(05-09-2023, 11:40 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 11:35 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: And that's why you have ZERO idea what you're talking about.

I'm telling you that you don't need LibsofTikTok in your life.  You already mistrust the libs.  You don't need to spend more of your day learning new reasons why.  Nothing good will come of it.  I do know what I'm talking about because I read what you write. That's all the facts I need to reach my conclusion.

You make your ill based opinions on matters you actually know nothing about.. Seems like that's par the course for you. You are NPR..
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https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1...4bvZA&s=19

Pretty much, spot on!
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(05-09-2023, 12:32 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1...4bvZA&s=19

Pretty much, spot on!

Who said white supremacy was the motive?
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(05-08-2023, 11:38 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Mauricio Garcia is a brown Mexican gang banger, but for some reason the papers want us to believe he's Adolf's grandson. Now why, oh why, would that be so? Why would they want to blame mass shootings on the border by illegal immigrants on Whitey? Whatever purpose could they have for creating another White Hispanic situation?

Those questions are rhetorical of course, we know why.
His social media is still up. He has new nazi tattoos. He killed white people.

The facts point to this being another FF op. They don't leave up social media for the trans shooter but this guy has his nazi stuff out there still. Per reports he also posted something about liking the trans shooter.

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(05-09-2023, 12:48 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 12:32 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1...4bvZA&s=19

Pretty much, spot on!

Who said white supremacy was the motive?

His apparently fresh ink indicates he was radicalized.  The little bit I've read on this subject doesn't pass the smell test for me though.
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(05-09-2023, 01:05 PM)p_rushing Wrote:
(05-08-2023, 11:38 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Mauricio Garcia is a brown Mexican gang banger, but for some reason the papers want us to believe he's Adolf's grandson. Now why, oh why, would that be so? Why would they want to blame mass shootings on the border by illegal immigrants on Whitey? Whatever purpose could they have for creating another White Hispanic situation?

Those questions are rhetorical of course, we know why.
His social media is still up. He has new nazi tattoos. He killed white people.

The facts point to this being another FF op. They don't leave up social media for the trans shooter but this guy has his nazi stuff out there still. Per reports he also posted something about liking the trans shooter.

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He didn't "like" the trans shooter. Apparently, he said something to the effect of her accomplishing a great act of feminism, which is funny. The big takeaway from what I read is that he openly recognizes the media's celebration of shooters. Then again, I went back to look for the article that I read, and I can't find it. Probably more click-bait trash. I'm so sick of our media, man.

(05-09-2023, 11:16 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 10:40 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Who cares what you consume? That has nothing to do with my point about your hypocrisy. LibsofTikTok did not make this shooter any more than the legacy media. This dude has mental issues, but we're supposed to believe white supremacy is this evil force in America, converting Mexicans into neo-Nazis' that target and kill white people. There is nothing coherent in that story at all. It's pure gaslighting. 

Here's the story: Man with mental issues shoots up mall. Same is true for the Trans shooter. Same is true for the Columbine shooters. 

White Supremacy is a red herring. His race is a red herring. His victims are a red herring. When a crime is based solely off an ideology, it should be part of the story. Otherwise, it's fodder for the weak-minded.

Maybe, but it seems Caldrac, FSG, and Winger all disagree with you about that.  Maybe lay off me and take it up with them.

Or, you could just own your own culpability in this entire broken process. They wouldn't be talking about it if the media were not driving the white supremacy narrative. Hold the right people accountable.
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(05-09-2023, 02:39 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(05-09-2023, 01:05 PM)p_rushing Wrote: His social media is still up. He has new nazi tattoos. He killed white people.

The facts point to this being another FF op. They don't leave up social media for the trans shooter but this guy has his nazi stuff out there still. Per reports he also posted something about liking the trans shooter.

Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk

He didn't "like" the trans shooter. Apparently, he said something to the effect of her accomplishing a great act of feminism, which is funny. The big takeaway from what I read is that he openly recognizes the media's celebration of shooters. Then again, I went back to look for the article that I read, and I can't find it. Probably more click-bait trash. I'm so sick of our media, man.

(05-09-2023, 11:16 AM)mikesez Wrote: Maybe, but it seems Caldrac, FSG, and Winger all disagree with you about that.  Maybe lay off me and take it up with them.

Or, you could just own your own culpability in this entire broken process. They wouldn't be talking about it if the media were not driving the white supremacy narrative. Hold the right people accountable.

I am culpable for the media, that they watch, that I do not watch, pushing a certain narrative?
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