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(08-04-2023, 11:15 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 11:07 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Yes, spine and brain.

Stupidity and bravery are often confused.
Your side is outnumbered,  the election revealed this.  My brain can count, so can yours, yours simply chooses feelings over numbers.

Not in your case, no one would confuse you for courageous.
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https://twitter.com/theLGBgroup/status/1...Loc3w&s=19

Victory!!

Now, all wins need to be vacated..
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Ah... is sanity returning to the world?
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Yeah, don't call out the libs and dems for their criminalities.. You'll end up in court on phony charges..
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(08-04-2023, 11:15 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 11:07 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Yes, spine and brain.

Stupidity and bravery are often confused.
Your side is outnumbered,  the election revealed this.  My brain can count, so can yours, yours simply chooses feelings over numbers.

Your inability to emphasize with people that do not think like you is astounding.  Those founding fathers of 1776 did not want conflict.  They wanted peace, prosperity and to be treated fairly.  They were pushed into a corner by an arrogant government that refused to acknowledge their grievances and they pushed back.  History repeats itself.  You and several others posting here have a hatred of DJT that blinds you to the disparity of how justice is being served.  The frustration you see is not about Donald Trump per se, but about the disparity between how his transgressions are treated vs those of how the Biden family is being portrayed.
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(This post was last modified: 08-04-2023, 04:56 PM by mikesez. Edited 3 times in total.)

(08-04-2023, 04:16 PM)copycat Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 11:15 AM)mikesez Wrote: Stupidity and bravery are often confused.
Your side is outnumbered,  the election revealed this.  My brain can count, so can yours, yours simply chooses feelings over numbers.

Your inability to emphasize with people that do not think like you is astounding.  Those founding fathers of 1776 did not want conflict.  They wanted peace, prosperity and to be treated fairly.  They were pushed into a corner by an arrogant government that refused to acknowledge their grievances and they pushed back.  History repeats itself.  You and several others posting here have a hatred of DJT that blinds you to the disparity of how justice is being served.  The frustration you see is not about Donald Trump per se, but about the disparity between how his transgressions are treated vs those of how the Biden family is being portrayed.

Your complaints of a two tiered justice system may be legitimate.
Certainly our justice system is expensive and calcified.
But voting for a guy who literally wants to overturn elections and end the constitution is an awfully confusing way to express it.
Certainly the idea that the alleged two tiered justice system disfavors white billionaires is counterintuitive and ironic, to say the least.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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(08-04-2023, 04:20 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 04:16 PM)copycat Wrote: Your inability to emphasize with people that do not think like you is astounding.  Those founding fathers of 1776 did not want conflict.  They wanted peace, prosperity and to be treated fairly.  They were pushed into a corner by an arrogant government that refused to acknowledge their grievances and they pushed back.  History repeats itself.  You and several others posting here have a hatred of DJT that blinds you to the disparity of how justice is being served.  The frustration you see is not about Donald Trump per se, but about the disparity between how his transgressions are treated vs those of how the Biden family is being portrayed.

Your complaints of a two tiered justice system may be legitimate.
Certainly our justice system is expensive and calcified.
But voting for a guy who literally wants to overturn elections and end the constitution is an awfully confusing way to express it.
Certainly the idea that the alleged two tiered justice system disfavors white billionaires is counterintuitive and ironic, to say the
Mike, again empathy!  News flash!  Most of the people that voted for Trump know his character flaws.  They acknowledge them.  Yet he was the only candidate fighting against the system of injustice and at every turn the establishment confirmed his assertions.  His opponent in 2016 created a lie that he was in collision with a foreign government to influence an election.  The evidence of such was manufactured and has been proven to be manufactured. The man was persecuted for 4 years for it.  I don’t care how you feel about Trump, where is the investigation into the manufactured lies about the supposed collusion?  Why does our justice system not investigate this?  

Here is the rub.  You and I and Marty and Lucky and NYC and Winger et al want the same thing.  A safe prosperous place to raise our families.  We may disagree on how to get there, however we are constantly being distracted that we hate each other for wanting the same thing by a system that wants us fighting each other.  Some of us see that, others scream conspiracy theorists.
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(08-04-2023, 05:22 PM)copycat Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 04:20 PM)mikesez Wrote: Your complaints of a two tiered justice system may be legitimate.
Certainly our justice system is expensive and calcified.
But voting for a guy who literally wants to overturn elections and end the constitution is an awfully confusing way to express it.
Certainly the idea that the alleged two tiered justice system disfavors white billionaires is counterintuitive and ironic, to say the
Mike, again empathy!  News flash!  Most of the people that voted for Trump know his character flaws.  They acknowledge them.  Yet he was the only candidate fighting against the system of injustice and at every turn the establishment confirmed his assertions.  His opponent in 2016 created a lie that he was in collision with a foreign government to influence an election.  The evidence of such was manufactured and has been proven to be manufactured. The man was persecuted for 4 years for it.  I don’t care how you feel about Trump, where is the investigation into the manufactured lies about the supposed collusion?  Why does our justice system not investigate this?  

Here is the rub.  You and I and Marty and Lucky and NYC and Winger et al want the same thing.  A safe prosperous place to raise our families.  We may disagree on how to get there, however we are constantly being distracted that we hate each other for wanting the same thing by a system that wants us fighting each other.  Some of us see that, others scream conspiracy theorists.

I recognize the system is screwing all of us and  pitting us against each other to a degree.

I'm just very judicious about how far down the rabbit hole I go with that stuff.
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(This post was last modified: 08-04-2023, 11:11 PM by mikesez. Edited 3 times in total.)

Russia was trying to contact the Trump campaign throughout 2016. Hillary knew it. Trump knew it. It wasn't until October 2016 that Hillary had her friendly journalists alleged that Trump was actually returning the Russians' calls. She may have really believed that, or not, but it was a desperation play. It's was more like a basketball foul than a football pass interference in the scheme of things.

All Trump had to do was play nice with the prosecutors/investigators and the whole thing could have gone much more quickly.
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(08-04-2023, 05:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 05:22 PM)copycat Wrote: Mike, again empathy!  News flash!  Most of the people that voted for Trump know his character flaws.  They acknowledge them.  Yet he was the only candidate fighting against the system of injustice and at every turn the establishment confirmed his assertions.  His opponent in 2016 created a lie that he was in collision with a foreign government to influence an election.  The evidence of such was manufactured and has been proven to be manufactured. The man was persecuted for 4 years for it.  I don’t care how you feel about Trump, where is the investigation into the manufactured lies about the supposed collusion?  Why does our justice system not investigate this?  

Here is the rub.  You and I and Marty and Lucky and NYC and Winger et al want the same thing.  A safe prosperous place to raise our families.  We may disagree on how to get there, however we are constantly being distracted that we hate each other for wanting the same thing by a system that wants us fighting each other.  Some of us see that, others scream conspiracy theorists.

I recognize the system is screwing all of us and  pitting us against each other to a degree.

I'm just very judicious about how far down the rabbit hole I go with that stuff.

Fine.  We agree the system is rigged to pit us against each other.  Where do we meet to change the system?
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(08-04-2023, 05:55 PM)mikesez Wrote: Russia was trying to contact the Trump campaign throughout 2020.  Hillary knew it.  Trump knew it.  It wasn't until October 2020 that Hillary had her friendly journalists alleged that Trump was actually returning the Russians' calls.  She may have really believed that, or not, but it was a desperation play.  It's was more like a basketball foul than a football pass interference in the scheme of things.

All Trump had to do was play nice with the prosecutors/investigators and the whole thing could have gone much more quickly.

That's an interesting way of framing that.
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(08-04-2023, 04:20 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 04:16 PM)copycat Wrote: Your inability to emphasize with people that do not think like you is astounding.  Those founding fathers of 1776 did not want conflict.  They wanted peace, prosperity and to be treated fairly.  They were pushed into a corner by an arrogant government that refused to acknowledge their grievances and they pushed back.  History repeats itself.  You and several others posting here have a hatred of DJT that blinds you to the disparity of how justice is being served.  The frustration you see is not about Donald Trump per se, but about the disparity between how his transgressions are treated vs those of how the Biden family is being portrayed.

Your complaints of a two tiered justice system may be legitimate.
Certainly our justice system is expensive and calcified.
But voting for a guy who literally wants to overturn elections and end the constitution is an awfully confusing way to express it.
Certainly the idea that the alleged two tiered justice system disfavors white billionaires is counterintuitive and ironic, to say the least.

Well, the election was stolen, and in plain sight…plenty of evidence and video… but leftist turds like to pretend “there’s no evidence “ . 

This government, that is not only illegitimate, but is also breaking every law and political norms it possibly can, at breakneck speeds; and is being spearheaded by an demented criminal posing as a real President and gay ex President. 

If that is not screaming for a Revolution than I don’t know what does. This government needs to be overthrown….

“That Just Happened!!”
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(08-04-2023, 06:16 PM)copycat Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 05:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I recognize the system is screwing all of us and  pitting us against each other to a degree.

I'm just very judicious about how far down the rabbit hole I go with that stuff.

Fine.  We agree the system is rigged to pit us against each other.  Where do we meet to change the system?

Taverns, bars, churches, and armories.

(08-04-2023, 06:41 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 05:55 PM)mikesez Wrote: Russia was trying to contact the Trump campaign throughout 2020.  Hillary knew it.  Trump knew it.  It wasn't until October 2020 that Hillary had her friendly journalists alleged that Trump was actually returning the Russians' calls.  She may have really believed that, or not, but it was a desperation play.  It's was more like a basketball foul than a football pass interference in the scheme of things.

All Trump had to do was play nice with the prosecutors/investigators and the whole thing could have gone much more quickly.

That's an interesting way of framing that.

It's only interesting in that a supposed Republican always comes down on the side of the Democrats. Otherwise it's his same usual nonsense,
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(08-04-2023, 07:29 PM)Ronster Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 04:20 PM)mikesez Wrote: Your complaints of a two tiered justice system may be legitimate.
Certainly our justice system is expensive and calcified.
But voting for a guy who literally wants to overturn elections and end the constitution is an awfully confusing way to express it.
Certainly the idea that the alleged two tiered justice system disfavors white billionaires is counterintuitive and ironic, to say the least.

Well, the election was stolen, and in plain sight…plenty of evidence and video… but leftist turds like to pretend “there’s no evidence “ . 

This government, that is not only illegitimate, but is also breaking every law and political norms it possibly can, at breakneck speeds; and is being spearheaded by an demented criminal posing as a real President and gay ex President. 

If that is not screaming for a Revolution than I don’t know what does. This government needs to be overthrown….             

“That Just Happened!!”

This government needs to be overthrown, you say?

Go ahead.  Give it a shot.  

Just don't do it during the football season OK?
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(08-05-2023, 08:00 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-04-2023, 07:29 PM)Ronster Wrote: Well, the election was stolen, and in plain sight…plenty of evidence and video… but leftist turds like to pretend “there’s no evidence “ . 

This government, that is not only illegitimate, but is also breaking every law and political norms it possibly can, at breakneck speeds; and is being spearheaded by an demented criminal posing as a real President and gay ex President. 

If that is not screaming for a Revolution than I don’t know what does. This government needs to be overthrown….             

“That Just Happened!!”

This government needs to be overthrown, you say?

Go ahead.  Give it a shot.  

Just don't do it during the football season OK?

I wonder how much they would [BLEEP] their pants if just a million gun owners took to the streets and marched on them, let alone all gun owners that are tired of this illegal government running roughshod over us all

This government wouldn’t stand a chance..
"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"
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(08-05-2023, 09:25 AM)Ronster Wrote:
(08-05-2023, 08:00 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: This government needs to be overthrown, you say?

Go ahead.  Give it a shot.  

Just don't do it during the football season OK?

I wonder how much they would [BLEEP] their pants if just a million gun owners took to the streets and marched on them, let alone all gun owners that are tired of this illegal government running roughshod over us all

This government wouldn’t stand a chance..


You really want to see people die, huh? 

All these lunatics that think their little militias and backyard storehouses of AR15s and a few thousand rounds of ammo are going to challenge the might of the United States federal agencies and military are a bunch of idiots. 

They'll all go the way of those zealots in Waco as soon as they try it. 

You can't be [BLEEP] serious
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(08-05-2023, 01:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(08-05-2023, 09:25 AM)Ronster Wrote: I wonder how much they would [BLEEP] their pants if just a million gun owners took to the streets and marched on them, let alone all gun owners that are tired of this illegal government running roughshod over us all

This government wouldn’t stand a chance..


You really want to see people die, huh? 

All these lunatics that think their little militias and backyard storehouses of AR15s and a few thousand rounds of ammo are going to challenge the might of the United States federal agencies and military are a bunch of idiots. 

They'll all go the way of those zealots in Waco as soon as they try it. 

You can't be [BLEEP] serious
“Oh no! Is that Ronster?! The middle aged overweight redneck?! RUNNNNN US MILITARY! RUUUUUNNNNNN!”
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The Homeless Industrial Complex. I had never thought of this angle before but it makes sense.

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(08-05-2023, 01:24 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(08-05-2023, 01:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: You really want to see people die, huh? 

All these lunatics that think their little militias and backyard storehouses of AR15s and a few thousand rounds of ammo are going to challenge the might of the United States federal agencies and military are a bunch of idiots. 

They'll all go the way of those zealots in Waco as soon as they try it. 

You can't be [BLEEP] serious
“Oh no! Is that Ronster?! The middle aged overweight redneck?! RUNNNNN US MILITARY! RUUUUUNNNNNN!”

He's fresh off of two tours in white-man-istan and picked up some tac gear from amazon prime. The feds better watch out!

https://twitter.com/middleageriot/status...28064?s=20
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(08-05-2023, 01:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(08-05-2023, 09:25 AM)Ronster Wrote: I wonder how much they would [BLEEP] their pants if just a million gun owners took to the streets and marched on them, let alone all gun owners that are tired of this illegal government running roughshod over us all

This government wouldn’t stand a chance..


You really want to see people die, huh? 

All these lunatics that think their little militias and backyard storehouses of AR15s and a few thousand rounds of ammo are going to challenge the might of the United States federal agencies and military are a bunch of idiots. 

They'll all go the way of those zealots in Waco as soon as they try it. 

You can't be [BLEEP] serious

Those "zealots" who were murdered by the federal government? You should be referencing them as a reason to oppose the government, not a case study in why you shouldn't.
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