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Let's Talk About- Political Edition
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(08-25-2023, 09:01 PM)mikesez Wrote:(08-25-2023, 05:12 PM)Sneakers Wrote: If their treatment differs from that of others, it is "special" by definition of the word. If you believe special treatment can and should be earned, the question becomes one of criteria. Is V.P. sufficient? How about Senator, Mayor, General, Jeff Bezos, Tom Brady, etc.? Where do you draw the line? I find this highly disconcerting. Did I fall asleep and awaken in an alternate universe?
When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (08-28-2023, 05:41 PM)Sneakers Wrote:(08-25-2023, 09:01 PM)mikesez Wrote: I agree with you. Turns out I'm not always a contrarian. Trying to turn over a new leaf.
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08-28-2023, 10:32 PM
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(08-04-2023, 06:16 PM)copycat Wrote:(08-04-2023, 05:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I recognize the system is screwing all of us and pitting us against each other to a degree. We meet to vote in a system that will enable us to rank multiple candidates on our ballot, which will encourage more and better candidates to run, and encourage good behavior and discourage negative campaigning by the candidates. Voila! Your candidate is no longer pitting you against the people who like other candidates!
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08-28-2023, 10:45 PM
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(08-18-2023, 12:21 PM)mikesez Wrote:(08-18-2023, 11:40 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Yes. Did you find the data FSG? (08-18-2023, 09:47 AM)Sneakers Wrote:(08-17-2023, 09:45 PM)mikesez Wrote: You got all smug and told me that the one hot day at Disney was an outlier. FSG offered an opinion on climate change and you agreed with it. I offered one and you disagreed with it. I guess you could say you technically didn't "opine" yourself. I think your opinion on the matter is clear but I suppose you have some plausible deniability. Even so, taking you at your word, the best case scenario for you is you waded into an argument that you have no opinion about just to say you don't like one of the people arguing. You know the saying, big minds talk ideas, small minds talk about people.
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I presented data, not opinion. Do your own homework.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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08-29-2023, 07:38 AM
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The vaccine deniers and Covid skeptics among us have better evidence for their opinion than those who deny man-made climate change or those who deny that we should do anything to mitigate it.
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(08-29-2023, 07:11 AM)mikesez Wrote:(08-29-2023, 06:11 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I presented data, not opinion. Do your own homework. And yours only goes back a small percentage of all time in addition to the projections being horse [BLEEP]. But other than that, I guess cherry picked data to reinforce your faith is important to you guys. I mean, the graph literally says that that smooth the curves to account for spikes in both directions. What nonsense. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
(08-29-2023, 10:02 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(08-29-2023, 07:11 AM)mikesez Wrote: The fact that you presented it means it was important or even decisive in your opinion. You think that knowing earth's temperatures millions of years ago, before humans existed, is relevant to guide human action now. That's your opinion. It says small changes might be smoothed out but only if they are small enough or brief enough. The change seen in modern times would not be smoothed out if it appeared earlier. It is neither small enough nor brief enough.
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(08-29-2023, 10:26 AM)mikesez Wrote:(08-29-2023, 10:02 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: And yours only goes back a small percentage of all time in addition to the projections being horse [BLEEP]. But other than that, I guess cherry picked data to reinforce your faith is important to you guys. I mean, the graph literally says that that smooth the curves to account for spikes in both directions. What nonsense. Yeah, a 10 year period on a scale of millions of years isn't "brief enough", lol, whatever floats your boat. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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08-29-2023, 12:23 PM
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(08-29-2023, 11:00 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:(08-29-2023, 10:26 AM)mikesez Wrote: It says small changes might be smoothed out but only if they are small enough or brief enough. The change seen in modern times would not be smoothed out if it appeared earlier. It is neither small enough nor brief enough. The modern timescale (the solid line as opposed to the dotted line) is about 150 years, not 10. The overall timescale of this data is 1000 years per gridline.
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Not to mention the graph is literally 1degree Celsius per line. I would like to see that graph with the spikes. It might actually be informative.
(08-28-2023, 10:45 PM)mikesez Wrote: You talk about Donald Trump more than anyone else on this board. What conclusion should I draw from that fact?
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08-29-2023, 12:25 PM
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(08-29-2023, 12:23 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Not to mention the graph is literally 1degree Celsius per line. I would like to see that graph with the spikes. It might actually be informative. I am pretty sure that data doesn't exist. I think the nature of the ice cores we have doesn't give us that granularity. Do your own research! You wouldn't be asking this question if the data Supported the conclusion you have already drawn
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08-29-2023, 12:31 PM
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(08-29-2023, 12:24 PM)Sneakers Wrote:(08-28-2023, 10:45 PM)mikesez Wrote: Donald Trump is a big important person who is a big important threat to our ability to continue to discuss big important ideas freely. I am none of those things. Why do you keep wanting to talk about me? Why do you criticize me for talking about him?
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(08-29-2023, 12:24 PM)Sneakers Wrote:(08-28-2023, 10:45 PM)mikesez Wrote: That this is a political message board and Donald Trump is an important and very controversial politician? (08-29-2023, 12:24 PM)Sneakers Wrote:(08-28-2023, 10:45 PM)mikesez Wrote:
08-29-2023, 12:55 PM
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(08-29-2023, 12:25 PM)mikesez Wrote:(08-29-2023, 12:23 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Not to mention the graph is literally 1degree Celsius per line. I would like to see that graph with the spikes. It might actually be informative. I do my own research all the time. I just don't care to do it for this debate. It's not worth my time. It's interesting how you seemingly are patting yourself on the back for doing your own research while posting "informative" memes. But hey, here's a different picture, since that's how we're considering ourselves informed these days: For what it's worth, I have looked into it. I think there is anthropomorphic climate change. I don't think it's as deadly as it's being made to believe. I think the same people who were manipulated to cede power to the government over COVID are the same ones who want to cede power over climate change. There's always a threat, and people always willing to instinctively call for help. Powerful folks know this and use it to manufacture crisis. To be clear, I think it's important for us to be collecting data and carefully monitoring our impact on the Earth. It would be foolish to not be good stewards of our home. I am all for data collection and principled outlooks for our posterity. I'm not about being manipulated into having knee-jerk reactions to small variations. The Ukraine War, Covid, Climate Change... they all are useful for redistributing the American dollar around the world, while simultaneously being skimmed by people who have a larger eco-footprint than me. People sure to get rich protecting my interests. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (08-29-2023, 12:55 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:(08-29-2023, 12:25 PM)mikesez Wrote: I am pretty sure that data doesn't exist. I think the nature of the ice cores we have doesn't give us that granularity. Do your own research! You wouldn't be asking this question if the data Supported the conclusion you have already drawn It's essentially the same graph FSG posted. The time scale is mostly times when there were no people at all.
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