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***Jaguars @ Bucs GameDay thread***


I don’t think Trevor is a lost cause but something is wrong. Something off. It may be that Kirk was a blow we may never recover this season from. Add losing Zay. He’s pressing and injured. But his turnovers are a concern and he has clearly regressed from early in the season
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(12-24-2023, 06:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:20 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: Sure, but his numbers have regressed. He's one of the best players on this team, but his numbers don't show it.
It's becuase they can't run block for [BLEEP].  Do you understand how the game works or watch this team when we try to run the ball?  He has no where to go.  Ones numbers won't show it if he has no blocking.   It doesn't take Einstein to figure out why his numbers are what they are

First int was an over throw to an open wr but please keep making ignorant observations
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(12-24-2023, 06:23 PM)Jag88 Wrote: I wish we could blitz line backers like bowls does. Baker is on too much of a hot streak to let him sit back there and Evans is too good along with Godwin.

DLine needs to be better for that to work. Our trenches are the worst in the league.
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Each week the losses have looked worse and worse. The only positive is bet against the Jags and you can win money.
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(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: It's becuase they can't run block for [BLEEP].  Do you understand how the game works or watch this team when we try to run the ball?  He has no where to go.  Ones numbers won't show it if he has no blocking.   It doesn't take Einstein to figure out why his numbers are what they are

First int was an over throw to an open wr but please keep making ignorant observations

You can leave JagsMvP. No one gives a rats tush what you think
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(12-24-2023, 06:16 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: And you want to give Lawrence a $200 million dollar contract?

Ha Ha ha ha...

Trevor is currently saving the Khans money.

Hey...what happened to Elijah Cook?
The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

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I’m going to watch the second half and take it like a 2021 1-15 jag lol
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(12-24-2023, 06:25 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Each week the losses have looked worse and worse.  The only positive is bet against the Jags and you can win money.

This. We’re playing worse every week. 

It’s seriously in doubt now that we can even beat hapless Carolina. They took the packers to the wire. Tennessee is still fighting
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(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: It's becuase they can't run block for [BLEEP].  Do you understand how the game works or watch this team when we try to run the ball?  He has no where to go.  Ones numbers won't show it if he has no blocking.   It doesn't take Einstein to figure out why his numbers are what they are

First int was an over throw to an open wr but please keep making ignorant observations

You're an idiot and cluless.  What the [BLEEP] does that have to do with Etienne and why he can't run the football?
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(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: It's becuase they can't run block for [BLEEP].  Do you understand how the game works or watch this team when we try to run the ball?  He has no where to go.  Ones numbers won't show it if he has no blocking.   It doesn't take Einstein to figure out why his numbers are what they are

You should take a deep breath before you have a heart attack.

I'm aware that the line sucks. I'm not talking about Etienne's skill. I'm talking about his numbers. The REASON for the numbers don't matter. The point was that the numbers are regressing and with the defense also regressing we aren't winning.

Actually the reason for the numbers does matter.... You can't be talking about his numbers and then ignore the fact for the reason for the numbers.... You can't say look at his numbers and then not dig in and find out why his numbers are regressing....
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Even commentators are saying Trevor is not healthy.
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It's admirable that TLaw hasn't missed a regular season game in the NFL but it had better not be pride in that stat that keeps him (or the coaches) from realizing he may not be the better option right now.
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(12-24-2023, 06:23 PM)nejagsfan Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:18 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Trevor was 10 td 7 ints 6 fumbles in week 10, our defense and etn were winning the games back then clown.

Go back and watch the games clown defense was the ones that lost us a lot of those games.... You scored 30+ points on the Bengals You think you would win but defense didn't show up It's been just as much the defense.... Defense hasn't won one game for us this year.... Did The defense score 30 plus points against the Bengals no I don't think so.... Did The offense score enough points to beat the browns yeah.... Defense couldn't stop anybody

What are you talking about? The defense was arguably the MAIN reason we were winning so many games. We were leading the league in turnovers (25) which gave us short fields.
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(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: I don’t think Trevor is a lost cause but something is wrong. Something off. It may be that Kirk was a blow we may never recover this season from. Add losing Zay. He’s pressing and injured. But his turnovers are a concern and he has clearly regressed from early in the season

The problem is its lots of things. Injuries to key players, oline struggled all year, run game has stopped working, play calling is horrible, D can't get stops or turnovers, Trevor is trying to overcome everything and is making mistakes and he's got 2 injured legs and coming off a concussion. 

There's an awful lot of things to overcome and we can't find anything we can use to build on.
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I think we can all agree:
- The OL is terrible despite first rounder, 2 second rounders, third rounder and a high price free agent being invested into it. Raucher need to be fired.
- Trevor is too careless with the ball. He’s played generally terrible all season. He throws high so often, and his decision making is poor
- Offensive playcalling has been diabolical. Press needs to be fired tonight.
- Defensive scheme is terrible, Caldwell needs to be fired
- Tackling is abysmal
- Getting nothing from our draft picks outside of Harrison
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(12-24-2023, 06:26 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:25 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Each week the losses have looked worse and worse.  The only positive is bet against the Jags and you can win money.

This. We’re playing worse every week. 

It’s seriously in doubt now that we can even beat hapless Carolina. They took the packers to the wire. Tennessee is still fighting
Oh I'm taking the Panthers easily.  
They put up 30 points today.  I say the Panthers win by a TD next week
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Mike Caldwell use to be with Bucs. He should know how certain players operate in this game. Since the 49ers game, he's struggled to really adjust the defense. The Browns came with Flacco. The Bengals came with Browning. And here comes Tampa with Mayfield. And I have to seriously worry about the Panthers game.

If Caldwell finishes the season this bad, I'd boot him.
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If we lose to Carolina next week, it’s the beginning of the end for Baalke
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Beathard give us better chance
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(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: I don’t think Trevor is a lost cause but something is wrong. Something off. It may be that Kirk was a blow we may never recover this season from. Add losing Zay. He’s pressing and injured. But his turnovers are a concern and he has clearly regressed from early in the season

Multiple QBs have said its hards to plant with a high ankle sprain. Lawrence shouldn't have played on the ankle.
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