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***Jaguars @ Bucs GameDay thread***


If pederson takes Trevor out, he will get destroyed by the media for”rushing” him back.
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(12-24-2023, 06:27 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: It's admirable that TLaw hasn't missed a regular season game in the NFL but it had better not be pride in that stat that keeps him (or the coaches) from realizing he may not be the better option right now.

That could be it too, but benching him could cause a locker room division that isn’t needed when we’re already at rock bottom
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(12-24-2023, 06:28 PM)Haterade Wrote: Beathard give us better chance

That’s when you know you are in trouble
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(12-24-2023, 06:25 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: First int was an over throw to an open wr but please keep making ignorant observations

You can leave JagsMvP. No one gives a rats tush what you think

If i was jags mvp i wouldnt see your post im not a coward who ignores everyone on the forum. Move along
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(12-24-2023, 06:27 PM)nejagsfan Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: You should take a deep breath before you have a heart attack.

I'm aware that the line sucks. I'm not talking about Etienne's skill. I'm talking about his numbers. The REASON for the numbers don't matter. The point was that the numbers are regressing and with the defense also regressing we aren't winning.

Actually the reason for the numbers does matter.... You can't be talking about his numbers and then ignore the fact for the reason for the numbers.... You can't say look at his numbers and then not dig in and find out why his numbers are regressing....

Because it doesn't matter. I didn't say Etienne sucks. I said Etienne can't run the ball and the defense has regressed.
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(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: I don’t think Trevor is a lost cause but something is wrong. Something off. It may be that Kirk was a blow we may never recover this season from. Add losing Zay. He’s pressing and injured. But his turnovers are a concern and he has clearly regressed from early in the season

Missing Kirk hurts bad. Trevor knows he has to carry this [BLEEP] show on his back so he's forced to press. He has to try and make chicken salad out of chicken [BLEEP] and that aint easy.
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Still 30 minutes left. I just want to see a functional team, even in defeat.
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(12-24-2023, 06:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:26 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: This. We’re playing worse every week. 

It’s seriously in doubt now that we can even beat hapless Carolina. They took the packers to the wire. Tennessee is still fighting
Oh I'm taking the Panthers easily.  
They put up 30 points today.  I say the Panthers win by a TD next week

Same.

Panthers are going to throttle us.

We actually look like the worst team in the NFL in the past couple weeks.

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(12-24-2023, 06:28 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: I don’t think Trevor is a lost cause but something is wrong. Something off. It may be that Kirk was a blow we may never recover this season from. Add losing Zay. He’s pressing and injured. But his turnovers are a concern and he has clearly regressed from early in the season

The problem is its lots of things. Injuries to key players, oline struggled all year, run game has stopped working, play calling is horrible, D can't get stops or turnovers, Trevor is trying to overcome everything and is making mistakes and he's got 2 injured legs and coming off a concussion. 

There's an awful lot of things to overcome and we can't find anything we can use to build on.

Nah he has to over come more then any QB in history and set records or he's a bum.
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(This post was last modified: 12-24-2023, 06:32 PM by SamusAranX. Edited 2 times in total.)

(12-24-2023, 06:29 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:25 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: You can leave JagsMvP. No one gives a rats tush what you think

If i was jags mvp i wouldnt see your post im not a coward who ignores everyone on the forum. Move along

You got caught using two accounts and have an equivalent of “the dog ate my homework” as your excuse. Oh and how do you know I’m in JagsMvP ignore list? Hmmmm?
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I don't even know where to begin in the offseason with this team. Press Taylor needs to go. Doug needs to start calling the plays again. The O-Line needs to be completely revamped. The defense needs an overhaul. The secondary has been horrid and the defense has only looked good because of the turnovers. It's all or nothing with them.
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We need to draft plenty of offensive line.
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(12-24-2023, 06:29 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:27 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: Actually the reason for the numbers does matter.... You can't be talking about his numbers and then ignore the fact for the reason for the numbers.... You can't say look at his numbers and then not dig in and find out why his numbers are regressing....

Because it doesn't matter. I didn't say Etienne sucks. I said Etienne can't run the ball and the defense has regressed.

Elite RBs should be able to overcome poor oline.
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(12-24-2023, 06:30 PM)Protozoa Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:28 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: The problem is its lots of things. Injuries to key players, oline struggled all year, run game has stopped working, play calling is horrible, D can't get stops or turnovers, Trevor is trying to overcome everything and is making mistakes and he's got 2 injured legs and coming off a concussion. 

There's an awful lot of things to overcome and we can't find anything we can use to build on.

Nah he has to over come more then any QB in history and set records or he's a bum.

No one is asking him to set records. We're asking him to stop being careless with the ball.
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(This post was last modified: 12-24-2023, 06:33 PM by Jag88. Edited 1 time in total.)

(12-24-2023, 06:31 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: I don't even know where to begin in the offseason with this team. Press Taylor needs to go. Doug needs to start calling the plays again. The O-Line needs to be completely revamped. The defense needs an overhaul. The secondary has been horrid and the defense has only looked good because of the turnovers. It's all or nothing with them.

Pederson defends press like press is his son
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(12-24-2023, 06:30 PM)Protozoa Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:28 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: The problem is its lots of things. Injuries to key players, oline struggled all year, run game has stopped working, play calling is horrible, D can't get stops or turnovers, Trevor is trying to overcome everything and is making mistakes and he's got 2 injured legs and coming off a concussion. 

There's an awful lot of things to overcome and we can't find anything we can use to build on.

Nah he has to over come more then any QB in history and set records or he's a bum.

Sadly that's how some people see it. Trevor isn't playing well at the moment and is pushing trying to make things happen but damn he is not the reason we are how we are right now.
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(12-24-2023, 06:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:24 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: First int was an over throw to an open wr but please keep making ignorant observations

You're an idiot and cluless.  What the [BLEEP] does that have to do with Etienne and why he can't run the football?
Replied to the wrong post that stated that he was forcing the ball on the int when in reality he just missed the throw, keep the insults to yourself tebow lover
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-3 rush yards. GTFO
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(12-24-2023, 06:32 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(12-24-2023, 06:30 PM)Protozoa Wrote: Nah he has to over come more then any QB in history and set records or he's a bum.

Sadly that's how some people see it. Trevor isn't playing well at the moment and is pushing trying to make things happen but damn he is not the reason we are how we are right now.

Unfortunately the fate of the team hinges on him, for better or for worse
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Halftime break all the guys said Trevor isn't himself
Because Jaguars is our mantra  Wallbash
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