It's still a tad early for final judgement on that, but if you go look at multiple teams drafts year by year, on average walking away with 3 guys that are significant contributors years later is a good draft.  2 guys may be average to below average, but it could be and has been much worse here.

So the expectations are low then?

Just don’t be as bad as the worst franchise in the NFL for years?

I’m not throwing out 2023 but yet obviously but those picks also don’t look very promising outside of Anton. Backup TE, backup RB and an off ball linebacker?

Johnson is going to start at safety this year, it's likely Braswell and Hallock are in the mix as well at CB. Tugboat is unknown promise at the moment, but if he can play right guard we could have a good return on the pick. These aren't bad picks, they are just late picks.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Miller and Muma. Great picks Baalke!

If we were committed to the 34 long term then yeah, we needed talent at linebacker. Now we're stuck with guys we don't need since we hired a DC who doesn't run the same scheme as the previous one. This kind of thing doesn't happen often because it takes 2 years to change your personnel to the new scheme, but man, I felt like we just got to the point where we had the guys we need for the 34. Now we have to undo that, hopefully it's just this one offseason to get it done.

During the 2023 draft, we were committed to that scheme long term.  We were still committed to that scheme at 8-3 as well.

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So the expectations are low then?

Just don’t be as bad as the worst franchise in the NFL for years?

I’m not throwing out 2023 but yet obviously but those picks also don’t look very promising outside of Anton. Backup TE, backup RB and an off ball linebacker?

Johnson is going to start at safety this year, it's likely Braswell and Hallock are in the mix as well at CB. Tugboat is unknown promise at the moment, but if he can play right guard we could have a good return on the pick. These aren't bad picks, they are just late picks.

The late round picks are whatever considering teams generally miss on those players.

But the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders? I would hope they could find some starters there.

They aren’t though. Instead, they are finding backups at non premium positions (RB, TE and LB)

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It's still a tad early for final judgement on that, but if you go look at multiple teams drafts year by year, on average walking away with 3 guys that are significant contributors years later is a good draft.  2 guys may be average to below average, but it could be and has been much worse here.

So the expectations are low then?

Just don’t be as bad as the worst franchise in the NFL for years?

I’m not throwing out 2023 yet obviously but those picks also don’t look very promising outside of Anton. Backup TE, backup RB and an off ball linebacker?

Look at '21.  We have 6 contributors from that draft many of which are likely to get 2nd contracts here.  You're not going to see drafts like that very often but we also had two 1's and two 2's that draft which helps explain the higher number a bit.  You're going to have years where you only get 2 significant contributors from your draft and the rest is depth and special teams guys that will be the victim of roster churn in a few years.  You have unrealistic expectations with the draft over a long period of time and it's apparently being driven by your unhinged hatred for a man.  It's why the good news of an Oluokun extension must be twisted into an anti-Baalke post and narrative.

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We have yet to see Miller play lets save these until preseason at least. He was a playmaker on the gators defense. Has a nose for stopping the run and being around the ball.

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So the expectations are low then?

Just don’t be as bad as the worst franchise in the NFL for years?

I’m not throwing out 2023 yet obviously but those picks also don’t look very promising outside of Anton. Backup TE, backup RB and an off ball linebacker?

Look at '21.  We have 6 contributors from that draft many of which are likely to get 2nd contracts here.  You're not going to see drafts like that very often but we also had two 1's and two 2's that draft which helps explain the higher number a bit.  You're going to have years where you only get 2 significant contributors from your draft and the rest is depth and special teams guys that will be the victim of roster churn in a few years.  You have unrealistic expectations with the draft over a long period of time and it's apparently being driven by your unhinged hatred for a man.  It's why the good news of an Oluokun extension must be twisted into an anti-Baalke post and narrative.

It’s not unhinged at all. Again, I don’t lose sleep over anything Jags related.

But it’s not all rainbows and unicorns either. I’m calling out bad management and draft process when I see it.

Baalke is good in FA (I’ve already said that) but bad in the draft. I would like to see the Jags draft well and resign their own rather than continually overpaying in FA.

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Travon- Very good
Lloyd- good

After that? Who in that class might be on the Jags long term. And this is just from 2022.

Fortner is absolute trash. Muma is a backup. Snoop isn’t even on the team anymore

2022 hasn't been that bad. Walker took significant strides in the right direction in year two. Lloyd did as well, felt like a night and day comparison from year one to year two. Had he not had that injury with his hand, midseason surgery and a cast on it I think he would have played even better. 

Fortner is a bust. We all know that now. Bringing in Morse as a 10th year veteran at the Center position signifies this. It also shows growth with Baalke as a general manager. He got it wrong, he gave it two years, he's making amends for it now in year three. 

Muma was a head scratcher. I am thinking that was an insurance plan incase Oluokon didn't pan out. Baalke gambled twice, he ended up being right with Oluokon, which, for the money and price difference? I'll take that over missing on a 3rd RD pick. He can try and ship him off and recoup. Conner was bad. We all know that. 

To round out 2022's class he landed Junior and Buster Brown in the secondary. They're still on the roster and both players have showed a little development in the right area. Especially Brown. 

To go ahead and comment on 2023's class. The two biggest issues are Strange and Bigsby. They had woefully disappointing rookie seasons and we're hoping to see massive leaps forward in year two. Which is possible. If we can get a total of 1,000 yards of offense between the two of them I will take it. Anything over that? Gravy. 

I loved The Anton Harrison selection. Said he was my dark horse pick the night before the draft. We landed him. I think he has all-pro caliber qualities for a RT. Didn't care for the Miller and Lacy selections. Would have preferred Nick Herbig over Lacy. I was excited about the Abdullah selection. Antonio Johnson was considered a draft day steal. In the limited action he had as a rookie? I can see why. I expect big things out of him in year two already. 

Washington was serviceable last year as a WR and a returner. I think he'll be better in year two. He at least got some points on the board after Kirk's injury happened. Braswell was a good CB coming out of Rutgers. I think he's somebody to watch in this defense in year two. Cooper Hodges, if he can stay healthy, he's a steal of a 7th RD pick. Even if he ends up as a back up.

Hallett, Vohasek and Parish didn't work out. Hallett had good slot coverage marks on him coming out of Pittsburgh. Didn't know much about Vohasek. Parish was a freak of nature at the combine, had a good RAS, had some FB and DE qualities to him. Just couldn't find himself on the roster here. Was pulling for the guy though.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

https://twitter.com/demetrius82/status/1...915L-t18Xg

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I got a feeling that we're about to announce the Josh Allen new contract. . .

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I got a feeling that we're about to announce the Josh Allen new contract. . .

Between the roster cuts, the restructuring or extensions of a few players, yeah, it would have to be sooner rather than later. Would hate to see this situation drag out into July towards the deadline. 

The player I wish they could have done something about was Cam Robinson though. His entire situation from last year with the suspension, along with his injury history? His cap hit is an eye sore.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

https://twitter.com/demetrius82/status/1...915L-t18Xg

The problem is you and many others would still eviscerate Baalke if Oluokun were cut at some point rather than extended.

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I got a feeling that we're about to announce the Josh Allen new contract. . .

Maybe, but you don't need to clear space for that.  Signing him would lower his cap hit this year vs the tag.

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https://twitter.com/demetrius82/status/1...915L-t18Xg

I take issue with Baalke on both the Muma and V Miller picks, and I blame him and Pederson for being far too content with the OL entering the 2023 season. 

Outside of that - he's been good enough. I find the Baalke bashing from local pundits and fans insanely over the top. I stopped listening to most of the 1010 content because of it. Nauseating.

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Travon- Very good
Lloyd- good

After that? Who in that class might be on the Jags long term. And this is just from 2022.

Fortner is absolute trash. Muma is a backup. Snoop isn’t even on the team anymore

2022 hasn't been that bad. Walker took significant strides in the right direction in year two. Lloyd did as well, felt like a night and day comparison from year one to year two. Had he not had that injury with his hand, midseason surgery and a cast on it I think he would have played even better. 

Fortner is a bust. We all know that now. Bringing in Morse as a 10th year veteran at the Center position signifies this. It also shows growth with Baalke as a general manager. He got it wrong, he gave it two years, he's making amends for it now in year three. 

Muma was a head scratcher. I am thinking that was an insurance plan incase Oluokon didn't pan out. Baalke gambled twice, he ended up being right with Oluokon, which, for the money and price difference? I'll take that over missing on a 3rd RD pick. He can try and ship him off and recoup. Conner was bad. We all know that. 

To round out 2022's class he landed Junior and Buster Brown in the secondary. They're still on the roster and both players have showed a little development in the right area. Especially Brown. 

To go ahead and comment on 2023's class. The two biggest issues are Strange and Bigsby. They had woefully disappointing rookie seasons and we're hoping to see massive leaps forward in year two. Which is possible. If we can get a total of 1,000 yards of offense between the two of them I will take it. Anything over that? Gravy. 

I loved The Anton Harrison selection. Said he was my dark horse pick the night before the draft. We landed him. I think he has all-pro caliber qualities for a RT. Didn't care for the Miller and Lacy selections. Would have preferred Nick Herbig over Lacy. I was excited about the Abdullah selection. Antonio Johnson was considered a draft day steal. In the limited action he had as a rookie? I can see why. I expect big things out of him in year two already. 

Washington was serviceable last year as a WR and a returner. I think he'll be better in year two. He at least got some points on the board after Kirk's injury happened. Braswell was a good CB coming out of Rutgers. I think he's somebody to watch in this defense in year two. Cooper Hodges, if he can stay healthy, he's a steal of a 7th RD pick. Even if he ends up as a back up.

Hallett, Vohasek and Parish didn't work out. Hallett had good slot coverage marks on him coming out of Pittsburgh. Didn't know much about Vohasek. Parish was a freak of nature at the combine, had a good RAS, had some FB and DE qualities to him. Just couldn't find himself on the roster here. Was pulling for the guy though.

I second your take on Lloyd.

Last year he was graded a 90.3 against the run 3rd best amongst all linebackers. His overall grade went from 48.3 his rookie year to 78.1. He had a better completion percentage allowed than Fred Warner, Roquan Smith, and Dre Greenlaw 3 players ranked as top 10 at the position. Lloyd only gave up 2 touchdowns last year Warner and Smith gave up 1 Greenlaw gave up 4. Lloyd had a miss tackle percentage of 8.2 which was better than Warner and Greenlaw. He gets overlooked due to his lack of turnovers but him having a cast had a lot to do with that.

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https://twitter.com/demetrius82/status/1...915L-t18Xg

The problem is you and many others would still eviscerate Baalke if Oluokun were cut at some point rather than extended.

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I got a feeling that we're about to announce the Josh Allen new contract. . .

Maybe, but you don't need to clear space for that.  Signing him would lower his cap hit this year vs the tag.

That’s also not true lol

Moving on from expensive vets to young talent is just fine. I mean they drafted Lloyd, Muma and Miller for a reason right?

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https://twitter.com/demetrius82/status/1...915L-t18Xg

I take issue with Baalke on both the Muma and V Miller picks, and I blame him and Pederson for being far too content with the OL entering the 2023 season. 

Outside of that - he's been good enough. I find the Baalke bashing from local pundits and fans insanely over the top. I stopped listening to most of the 1010 content because of it. Nauseating.

My issue is process. What’s the plan?

Pay Foye a lot of money. Then immediately draft Lloyd and Muma. Then the next year draft Miller. What’s the plan?

Have JRob? Let’s draft ETN in round 1. Back that up with Snoop and then back that up with Bigsby. Now we know JRob got hurt but the process wasn’t good.

I just feel like there’s no plan or process. I may be alone in this one but so be it.

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Travon- Very good
Lloyd- good

After that? Who in that class might be on the Jags long term. And this is just from 2022.

Fortner is absolute trash. Muma is a backup. Snoop isn’t even on the team anymore

2022 hasn't been that bad. Walker took significant strides in the right direction in year two. Lloyd did as well, felt like a night and day comparison from year one to year two. Had he not had that injury with his hand, midseason surgery and a cast on it I think he would have played even better. 

Fortner is a bust. We all know that now. Bringing in Morse as a 10th year veteran at the Center position signifies this. It also shows growth with Baalke as a general manager. He got it wrong, he gave it two years, he's making amends for it now in year three. 

Muma was a head scratcher. I am thinking that was an insurance plan incase Oluokon didn't pan out. Baalke gambled twice, he ended up being right with Oluokon, which, for the money and price difference? I'll take that over missing on a 3rd RD pick. He can try and ship him off and recoup. Conner was bad. We all know that. 

To round out 2022's class he landed Junior and Buster Brown in the secondary. They're still on the roster and both players have showed a little development in the right area. Especially Brown. 

To go ahead and comment on 2023's class. The two biggest issues are Strange and Bigsby. They had woefully disappointing rookie seasons and we're hoping to see massive leaps forward in year two. Which is possible. If we can get a total of 1,000 yards of offense between the two of them I will take it. Anything over that? Gravy. 

I loved The Anton Harrison selection. Said he was my dark horse pick the night before the draft. We landed him. I think he has all-pro caliber qualities for a RT. Didn't care for the Miller and Lacy selections. Would have preferred Nick Herbig over Lacy. I was excited about the Abdullah selection. Antonio Johnson was considered a draft day steal. In the limited action he had as a rookie? I can see why. I expect big things out of him in year two already. 

Washington was serviceable last year as a WR and a returner. I think he'll be better in year two. He at least got some points on the board after Kirk's injury happened. Braswell was a good CB coming out of Rutgers. I think he's somebody to watch in this defense in year two. Cooper Hodges, if he can stay healthy, he's a steal of a 7th RD pick. Even if he ends up as a back up.

Hallett, Vohasek and Parish didn't work out. Hallett had good slot coverage marks on him coming out of Pittsburgh. Didn't know much about Vohasek. Parish was a freak of nature at the combine, had a good RAS, had some FB and DE qualities to him. Just couldn't find himself on the roster here. Was pulling for the guy though.

It's really impossible to grade any particular draft class after just one season. As you said, the Harrison pick definitely looks like a winner. Regarding the remaining 12 picks, the eventual grades are TBD. It is certainly possible that one or more of last year's selections take a big jump and become key contributors in 2024. The coaches are clearly counting on Antonio Johnson to replace Jenkins at safety. He showed some good signs in his limited playing time, but I'm still waiting to see how he does as a starter. If he doesn't play well, they will have the option of moving Savage from nickel. Braswell, Hallett, Abdullah, Hodges and Lacy are all in the same boat- as far as I'm concerned. They will all have the opportunity to earn significant playing time with impressive play in the pre-season. On the other hand, it is also possible that none of these mid to late round picks even make the final roster. Parker Washington is in a slightly different category since he did produce when called upon to play receiver or return punts despite a couple of bad fumbles. His role as a returner is likely to be limited due to the acquisition of Duvernay and his lack of speed will limit him as a receiver.

Regardless of how the mid to late round picks fair, the best possible grade I see this draft ever getting is a C+. The selections of Strange and Bigsby rank as two of the worst 2nd and 3rd round picks in team history. Strange will never be more than an average tight end and Bigsby showed his limitations to the extent that Pederson didn't even trust him to be on the field at key times. Even without the fumbling, he's just average and his main value will be to give Etienne less carries to extend his long-term value to the Jaguars. 

Baalke made the claim that he tried to trade up in round 2, but no team would do this. The reality is that he likely tried to get too greedy in what he offered. The Jaguars had definite needs on the offensive line (even after taking Harrison), nickel and pass rusher. Sitting there at the top of round 2 was Brian Branch, whom most projected as a 1st rounder. Would the team have been better with Branch in place of both Strange and Bigsby? How about pass rusher Keion White or offensive lineman Steve Avilla? All fit needs and could have been drafted by trading up. Finally, let's say Baalke just stayed put in round 2 and selected Torrence (before he traded back). Would he have been a better pick than Strange? Taking average players in rounds 2 and 3 instead of better ones at positions of much greater need is plain and simple INCOMPETENCE. I'm clearly not yet over this and Baalke's good record in free agency doesn't negate his draft failures.

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2022 hasn't been that bad. Walker took significant strides in the right direction in year two. Lloyd did as well, felt like a night and day comparison from year one to year two. Had he not had that injury with his hand, midseason surgery and a cast on it I think he would have played even better. 

Fortner is a bust. We all know that now. Bringing in Morse as a 10th year veteran at the Center position signifies this. It also shows growth with Baalke as a general manager. He got it wrong, he gave it two years, he's making amends for it now in year three. 

Muma was a head scratcher. I am thinking that was an insurance plan incase Oluokon didn't pan out. Baalke gambled twice, he ended up being right with Oluokon, which, for the money and price difference? I'll take that over missing on a 3rd RD pick. He can try and ship him off and recoup. Conner was bad. We all know that. 

To round out 2022's class he landed Junior and Buster Brown in the secondary. They're still on the roster and both players have showed a little development in the right area. Especially Brown. 

To go ahead and comment on 2023's class. The two biggest issues are Strange and Bigsby. They had woefully disappointing rookie seasons and we're hoping to see massive leaps forward in year two. Which is possible. If we can get a total of 1,000 yards of offense between the two of them I will take it. Anything over that? Gravy. 

I loved The Anton Harrison selection. Said he was my dark horse pick the night before the draft. We landed him. I think he has all-pro caliber qualities for a RT. Didn't care for the Miller and Lacy selections. Would have preferred Nick Herbig over Lacy. I was excited about the Abdullah selection. Antonio Johnson was considered a draft day steal. In the limited action he had as a rookie? I can see why. I expect big things out of him in year two already. 

Washington was serviceable last year as a WR and a returner. I think he'll be better in year two. He at least got some points on the board after Kirk's injury happened. Braswell was a good CB coming out of Rutgers. I think he's somebody to watch in this defense in year two. Cooper Hodges, if he can stay healthy, he's a steal of a 7th RD pick. Even if he ends up as a back up.

Hallett, Vohasek and Parish didn't work out. Hallett had good slot coverage marks on him coming out of Pittsburgh. Didn't know much about Vohasek. Parish was a freak of nature at the combine, had a good RAS, had some FB and DE qualities to him. Just couldn't find himself on the roster here. Was pulling for the guy though.

I second your take on Lloyd.

Last year he was graded a 90.3 against the run 3rd best amongst all linebackers. His overall grade went from 48.3 his rookie year to 78.1. He had a better completion percentage allowed than Fred Warner, Roquan Smith, and Dre Greenlaw 3 players ranked as top 10 at the position. Lloyd only gave up 2 touchdowns last year Warner and Smith gave up 1 Greenlaw gave up 4. Lloyd had a miss tackle percentage of 8.2 which was better than Warner and Greenlaw. He gets overlooked due to his lack of turnovers but him having a cast had a lot to do with that.

Lloyd is honestly the guy to watch in my opinion going into year three. Especially in this defense. They'll play mostly a lot of 4-2-5 looks defensively. Which means Oluokon will mostly be featured. 

However, when it's a base 4 - 3? I think he would be an interesting outside linebacker and he was a really good rusher at Utah from that perspective. 

I think he'll be better in Nielsen's defense personally.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

2022 hasn't been that bad. Walker took significant strides in the right direction in year two. Lloyd did as well, felt like a night and day comparison from year one to year two. Had he not had that injury with his hand, midseason surgery and a cast on it I think he would have played even better. 

Fortner is a bust. We all know that now. Bringing in Morse as a 10th year veteran at the Center position signifies this. It also shows growth with Baalke as a general manager. He got it wrong, he gave it two years, he's making amends for it now in year three. 

Muma was a head scratcher. I am thinking that was an insurance plan incase Oluokon didn't pan out. Baalke gambled twice, he ended up being right with Oluokon, which, for the money and price difference? I'll take that over missing on a 3rd RD pick. He can try and ship him off and recoup. Conner was bad. We all know that. 

To round out 2022's class he landed Junior and Buster Brown in the secondary. They're still on the roster and both players have showed a little development in the right area. Especially Brown. 

To go ahead and comment on 2023's class. The two biggest issues are Strange and Bigsby. They had woefully disappointing rookie seasons and we're hoping to see massive leaps forward in year two. Which is possible. If we can get a total of 1,000 yards of offense between the two of them I will take it. Anything over that? Gravy. 

I loved The Anton Harrison selection. Said he was my dark horse pick the night before the draft. We landed him. I think he has all-pro caliber qualities for a RT. Didn't care for the Miller and Lacy selections. Would have preferred Nick Herbig over Lacy. I was excited about the Abdullah selection. Antonio Johnson was considered a draft day steal. In the limited action he had as a rookie? I can see why. I expect big things out of him in year two already. 

Washington was serviceable last year as a WR and a returner. I think he'll be better in year two. He at least got some points on the board after Kirk's injury happened. Braswell was a good CB coming out of Rutgers. I think he's somebody to watch in this defense in year two. Cooper Hodges, if he can stay healthy, he's a steal of a 7th RD pick. Even if he ends up as a back up.

Hallett, Vohasek and Parish didn't work out. Hallett had good slot coverage marks on him coming out of Pittsburgh. Didn't know much about Vohasek. Parish was a freak of nature at the combine, had a good RAS, had some FB and DE qualities to him. Just couldn't find himself on the roster here. Was pulling for the guy though.

It's really impossible to grade any particular draft class after just one season. As you said, the Harrison pick definitely looks like a winner. Regarding the remaining 12 picks, the eventual grades are TBD. It is certainly possible that one or more of last year's selections take a big jump and become key contributors in 2024. The coaches are clearly counting on Antonio Johnson to replace Jenkins at safety. He showed some good signs in his limited playing time, but I'm still waiting to see how he does as a starter. If he doesn't play well, they will have the option of moving Savage from nickel. Braswell, Hallett, Abdullah, Hodges and Lacy are all in the same boat- as far as I'm concerned. They will all have the opportunity to earn significant playing time with impressive play in the pre-season. On the other hand, it is also possible that none of these mid to late round picks even make the final roster. Parker Washington is in a slightly different category since he did produce when called upon to play receiver or return punts despite a couple of bad fumbles. His role as a returner is likely to be limited due to the acquisition of Duvernay and his lack of speed will limit him as a receiver.

Regardless of how the mid to late round picks fair, the best possible grade I see this draft ever getting is a C+. The selections of Strange and Bigsby rank as two of the worst 2nd and 3rd round picks in team history. Strange will never be more than an average tight end and Bigsby showed his limitations to the extent that Pederson didn't even trust him to be on the field at key times. Even without the fumbling, he's just average and his main value will be to give Etienne less carries to extend his long-term value to the Jaguars. 

Baalke made the claim that he tried to trade up in round 2, but no team would do this. The reality is that he likely tried to get too greedy in what he offered. The Jaguars had definite needs on the offensive line (even after taking Harrison), nickel and pass rusher. Sitting there at the top of round 2 was Brian Branch, whom most projected as a 1st rounder. Would the team have been better with Branch in place of both Strange and Bigsby? How about pass rusher Keion White or offensive lineman Steve Avilla? All fit needs and could have been drafted by trading up. Finally, let's say Baalke just stayed put in round 2 and selected Torrence (before he traded back). Would he have been a better pick than Strange? Taking average players in rounds 2 and 3 instead of better ones at positions of much greater need is plain and simple INCOMPETENCE. I'm clearly not yet over this and Baalke's good record in free agency doesn't negate his draft failures.

I agree with you there. I think most of us echo those same sentiments exactly. Strange and Bigsby absolutely make or break that entire draft class and they get dogged more so for the fact that our 8 - 3 start happened without them and our 9 - 8 finish happened because we couldn't count on them when injuries started piling up.

Once Kirk went down and Zay was in and out of the line-up. You would have hoped the offense could have maybe got a little bit more creative by incorporating maybe looks that involved Bigsby from the backfield with Etienne splitting out wide, or, maybe Strange supplementing inside and playing more in-line so Engram could do more on the outside.

Instead, we were dead in the water. That will be something they have to figure out moving forward. I think me looking for a combined 1,000 yards or more of total offense between the two of them in year two is being a little modest, as, most teams would expect a whole hell of a lot more from just their second round selection alone in regards to output. 

Bigsby has to work on ball security. It was the biggest concern I immediately raised up about him on the day we drafted him in the actual thread. He didn't have a ton of carries at Auburn but he had a eyebrow raising amount of fumbles. That carried over into his NFL career and it was frustrating going all the way back to preseason with him.

Strange, for me, I had higher hopes at the time of the selection. Now, to be fair, in a deep TE class? He wasn't on my radar. Especially in RD2. In fact, didn't have him anywhere near any of my projections or mocks. However, when I looked at his highlights, his ability to block, motion in and out of the backfield, I started envisioning him as the Trey Burton TE that Doug had on his team with the Eagles.

A guy he would keep stashed behind Ertz and Celek but use here and there in special situations. Even then, that kind of role seemed like you could have filled much later on. Like another guy I liked on day three that the 49ers took, in Brayden Willis at TE. Lower risk there and more forgiving if you fail.

Strange was considered a 4th RD graded prospect and his comparison was Tyler Conklin. Which, is a bit of a bummer. Because Conklin didn't really break out as a receiving threat until his fourth year. And even then, he was middling at best and didn't offer much inside the redzone as a receiving option. 

Conklin was at least a 5th RD selection though. To add further insult, when you line Strange up next to his fellow classmates from this really, really good TE group? It's awful.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Reddick to the jests for a conditional 3rd.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Reddick to the jests for a conditional 3rd.

Not a bad decision on their part, it's basically a one year rental, however, it makes you question why they drafted Will McDonald IV as high as they did last year. Great prospect. Just wasn't sure why his name was called with the 15th overall selection.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."