Depends on how the top ten shakes out. There really is a QB need at the top of the draft. The Jets at the 10th spot are an interesting team. People keep linking Bowers there, but, after watching Rodgers get absolutely mauled on virtually every passing snap he had with the Jets and his season end that early in the opener? I am not convinced that they go that route neither. 

Should be the following:

Chicago - Caleb Williams - QB
Washington - Jayden Daniels - QB
New England - I think they actually trade here with Eliot Wolf officially in charge. Potentially with the Vikings for Drake Maye. 

After that though? Between ARZ - TEN? Could make a case for any OT with those teams in my opinion. Especially with guys like Alt and Fashanu.

Yes, usually multiple QBs in first ten picks of the draft. I am just saying that fans seem to always lean towards their team picking WRs or CBs in the first over OL. I think 8 OL in the first is not out of the question.

Alt
Barton
Fuaga
Fautanu
Latham
Mims
Fashanu
Guyton

Yes. Absolutely. Alt and Fashanu are considered top 10 selections almost everywhere I look at the moment. Fuaga, Fautanu & Latham are in that mixed range of 10 - 20. Fuaga and Fautanu also offer potential at guard. 

Mims & Guyton are athletically gifted for their position, just inexperienced, but some team will gamble on them banking on their upside. Barton is probably one of the safest picks in this class and offers really good athletic ability, toughness coming out of Duke with their offensive approach and positional versatility. 

It should be a top heavy OL draft on the opening night. I agree with that. It's just hard for some of us on here to see where they insert a rookie offensive lineman just based on what the Jaguars have done with their current line-up.

They double downed on Cleveland at LG. They restructured Scherff to maintain him at RG. They signed Morse at Center to move Fortner to the bench. They're on the hook with Harrison at RT for year two who showed promise. LT is the only position that's left up for debate. Because of Robinson's history with durability issues, the recent suspension last year and his cap hit. 

Also Walker Little on his last year potentially as the swing tackle. That's where I think it gets interesting if a solid LT prospect is there. I said it earlier this week. Barton should be on our radar because he can play every position on the offensive line. It wouldn't shock me if he's the guy they snap up at 17 if the other two more prominent options are gone in Fuaga and Fautanu. 

The idea of them being able to potentially solidify LT and RT within 2 years of each other for Lawrence's sake is ideal in my opinion. They can always draft another RT and move Harrison to LT as well. We can figure out C and RG down the road. We're in decent shape there for now if Morse is truly the upgrade we needed to fix the woes within the interior.

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Yes, usually multiple QBs in first ten picks of the draft. I am just saying that fans seem to always lean towards their team picking WRs or CBs in the first over OL. I think 8 OL in the first is not out of the question.

Alt
Barton
Fuaga
Fautanu
Latham
Mims
Fashanu
Guyton

JPJ is definitely on that list as well.

JPJ seems like he's a potential player for Miami or Dallas in my opinion. Seems like he would be a good fit for what they like to do especially.

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It is understandable that some of our fans want to take an offensive lineman in round 1 due to the ineptitude of last season's line as well as the under-performance of this unit throughout much of the team's history. Other than the early Jaguars with Boselli and Searcy and the 2007 unit which enabled Jones-Drew and Taylor to shine, it's difficult to remember many seasons in which the line was not below average.

When looking at the current draft priorities, we'd need to know what the coaches plan to do with Cam Robinson and Walker Little. It is possible that they plan on keeping Robinson, who is only 28, not just for this season but beyond. While his current cap hit is high, they may try to adjust his deal to save cap space like they did with Scherff. There is no way to know about their plans for Little, although one would have to believe they are not extremely high on him or they would have let Robinson go. From everything the coaches and Baalke have said, they feel good about beginning the season with Robinson/Cleveland/Morse/Scherff/Harrison with Little being the swing tackle/guard. Whether we like this or not, the Jaguars don't have the luxury of selecting an offensive lineman when they have much greater needs at cornerback, Edge, defensive tackle and receiver. My expectation is that they end up selecting one of the top cornerbacks since they lost Williams and Darby has a history of being injury prone. We haven't seen enough good things from Brown and the other back-ups to feel confident that they would succeed as starters. The Jaguars are very fortunate since they are likely to have their choice of 2 or 3 cornerbacks rated very highly. They would be wise to add depth to the interior of the offensive line as early as round 3 since Scherff may be gone after this season.

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It is understandable that some of our fans want to take an offensive lineman in round 1 due to the ineptitude of last season's line as well as the under-performance of this unit throughout much of the team's history. Other than the early Jaguars with Boselli and Searcy and the 2007 unit which enabled Jones-Drew and Taylor to shine, it's difficult to remember many seasons in which the line was not below average.

When looking at the current draft priorities, we'd need to know what the coaches plan to do with Cam Robinson and Walker Little. It is possible that they plan on keeping Robinson, who is only 28, not just for this season but beyond. While his current cap hit is high, they may try to adjust his deal to save cap space like they did with Scherff. There is no way to know about their plans for Little, although one would have to believe they are not extremely high on him or they would have let Robinson go. From everything the coaches and Baalke have said, they feel good about beginning the season with Robinson/Cleveland/Morse/Scherff/Harrison with Little being the swing tackle/guard. Whether we like this or not, the Jaguars don't have the luxury of selecting an offensive lineman when they have much greater needs at cornerback, Edge, defensive tackle and receiver. My expectation is that they end up selecting one of the top cornerbacks since they lost Williams and Darby has a history of being injury prone. We haven't seen enough good things from Brown and the other back-ups to feel confident that they would succeed as starters. The Jaguars are very fortunate since they are likely to have their choice of 2 or 3 cornerbacks rated very highly. They would be wise to add depth to the interior of the offensive line as early as round 3 since Scherff may be gone after this season.

A corner won't keep Trevor Lawrence upright and that is the only thing that matters this offseason. Everything else should be subordinate to that, not just for 2024, but for the next 3 years after that as well. That's what they can solve in 2 weeks.

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It is understandable that some of our fans want to take an offensive lineman in round 1 due to the ineptitude of last season's line as well as the under-performance of this unit throughout much of the team's history. Other than the early Jaguars with Boselli and Searcy and the 2007 unit which enabled Jones-Drew and Taylor to shine, it's difficult to remember many seasons in which the line was not below average.

When looking at the current draft priorities, we'd need to know what the coaches plan to do with Cam Robinson and Walker Little. It is possible that they plan on keeping Robinson, who is only 28, not just for this season but beyond. While his current cap hit is high, they may try to adjust his deal to save cap space like they did with Scherff. There is no way to know about their plans for Little, although one would have to believe they are not extremely high on him or they would have let Robinson go. From everything the coaches and Baalke have said, they feel good about beginning the season with Robinson/Cleveland/Morse/Scherff/Harrison with Little being the swing tackle/guard. Whether we like this or not, the Jaguars don't have the luxury of selecting an offensive lineman when they have much greater needs at cornerback, Edge, defensive tackle and receiver. My expectation is that they end up selecting one of the top cornerbacks since they lost Williams and Darby has a history of being injury prone. We haven't seen enough good things from Brown and the other back-ups to feel confident that they would succeed as starters. The Jaguars are very fortunate since they are likely to have their choice of 2 or 3 cornerbacks rated very highly. They would be wise to add depth to the interior of the offensive line as early as round 3 since Scherff may be gone after this season.

A corner won't keep Trevor Lawrence upright and that is the only thing that matters this offseason. Everything else should be subordinate to that, not just for 2024, but for the next 3 years after that as well. That's what they can solve in 2 weeks.

I agree.  The Chargers got distracted by shiny objects providing Herbert with a ton of weapons. The fact is without the proper amount of time and a bit of a running game you cannot use the weapons you have. They are for the most part now all gone. All it got them was Herbert injured and their defense gassed at the end of games/season. The best way to help the defense is to keep TL upright and a running game.  

The best way to get more pass rush and help our CB's by not making them cover forever is to get a big guy for the interior d-line. One that can push the pocket AND keep the opposing o-line off our linebackers.

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It is understandable that some of our fans want to take an offensive lineman in round 1 due to the ineptitude of last season's line as well as the under-performance of this unit throughout much of the team's history. Other than the early Jaguars with Boselli and Searcy and the 2007 unit which enabled Jones-Drew and Taylor to shine, it's difficult to remember many seasons in which the line was not below average.

When looking at the current draft priorities, we'd need to know what the coaches plan to do with Cam Robinson and Walker Little. It is possible that they plan on keeping Robinson, who is only 28, not just for this season but beyond. While his current cap hit is high, they may try to adjust his deal to save cap space like they did with Scherff. There is no way to know about their plans for Little, although one would have to believe they are not extremely high on him or they would have let Robinson go. From everything the coaches and Baalke have said, they feel good about beginning the season with Robinson/Cleveland/Morse/Scherff/Harrison with Little being the swing tackle/guard. Whether we like this or not, the Jaguars don't have the luxury of selecting an offensive lineman when they have much greater needs at cornerback, Edge, defensive tackle and receiver. My expectation is that they end up selecting one of the top cornerbacks since they lost Williams and Darby has a history of being injury prone. We haven't seen enough good things from Brown and the other back-ups to feel confident that they would succeed as starters. The Jaguars are very fortunate since they are likely to have their choice of 2 or 3 cornerbacks rated very highly. They would be wise to add depth to the interior of the offensive line as early as round 3 since Scherff may be gone after this season.

A corner won't keep Trevor Lawrence upright and that is the only thing that matters this offseason. Everything else should be subordinate to that, not just for 2024, but for the next 3 years after that as well. That's what they can solve in 2 weeks.

Not sure they need to abandon strengthening other parts of the roster in the draft overall, but this is a draft that the OL needs to be addressed early. No better place to start than pick 17 in the first round. There are no less than 8 offensive tackles that will be picked on night one, that could be DAY 1 starters on this team. How could you pass that up for a CB or WR who may not even see a significant amount of snaps in 2024.

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Seeing as the darft should be about landing the big guys early, I see no more appropriate selection for us than CB.

Maybe we go WR in the second and double down on the whiff!

I can't understand why so many people are enamored with the little guys. Every thread on social media and every conversation on the radio is about which CB they take with 17 or maybe they should just take the best WR there. Poppycock, we have to get "bigger and stronger" on the lines or the little guys will not matter a bit, and we had a nice start in free agency, now finish the job in the darft with at least 4 big bodies picked early. Jarrian Jones in the 3rd is every bit as good for this team as taking one of those other guys at 17.

Big guys don't run blazing times in underwear drills at the shieldball recruitment faire

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A corner won't keep Trevor Lawrence upright and that is the only thing that matters this offseason. Everything else should be subordinate to that, not just for 2024, but for the next 3 years after that as well. That's what they can solve in 2 weeks.

Not sure they need to abandon strengthening other parts of the roster in the draft overall, but this is a draft that the OL needs to be addressed early. No better place to start than pick 17 in the first round. There are no less than 8 offensive tackles that will be picked on night one, that could be DAY 1 starters on this team. How could you pass that up for a CB or WR who may not even see a significant amount of snaps in 2024.

I may be in the minority regarding the need to take an offensive lineman in round 1 (against it), but I'll stick with this opinion unless Cam gets traded or released prior to draft day. To be clear, I've always been a big believer in the importance of having a good offensive line. They set the tone for the team more than any other position and that's why I was very happy when they drafted Harrison with the 1st pick last year. My perspective for this year is based on the belief that the coaches feel that the current line with Morse at center and a healthy Scherff, Robinson and Cleveland is capable of performing at a high level. Whether any of us agree is irrelevant since the coaches decide who will be on the field when the season starts.They didn't just re-sign Cleveland and re-negotiate with Scherff to have them sit on the bench. Even if someone gets hurt, Walker Little is very capable to replace them. 

What will fans say when C.J. Stroud and his 3 excellent receivers torch the Jaguars secondary and their 1st round pick (JPJ, Fuaga, Fautanu, Fashanu, Mims, etc) is not even in the starting line-up and Quinyon Mitchell, Arnold, McKinsty and Cooper DeJean are all starting and playing very well? My guess is that they will be calling for Baalke's head- and with good reason.

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What will fans say when C.J. Stroud and his 3 excellent receivers torch the Jaguars secondary and their 1st round pick (JPJ, Fuaga, Fautanu, Fashanu, Mims, etc) is not even in the starting line-up and Quinyon Mitchell, Arnold, McKinsty and Cooper DeJean are all starting and playing very well? My guess is that they will be calling for Baalke's head- and with good reason.

I knew that I was going to like you.

But I'm on the other side, I still think they should go OL in the first. The need to protect Lawrence before giving him a record-breaking contract should be the Jaguars primary concern. In a 17 game schedule, you should knock one of those lineman off the list due to injury. If Morse goes down you're right back to last years OL, where the vast majority of fans agreed was the worst part of the team.

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Please, and thank you.

Not sure they need to abandon strengthening other parts of the roster in the draft overall, but this is a draft that the OL needs to be addressed early. No better place to start than pick 17 in the first round. There are no less than 8 offensive tackles that will be picked on night one, that could be DAY 1 starters on this team. How could you pass that up for a CB or WR who may not even see a significant amount of snaps in 2024.

I may be in the minority regarding the need to take an offensive lineman in round 1 (against it), but I'll stick with this opinion unless Cam gets traded or released prior to draft day. To be clear, I've always been a big believer in the importance of having a good offensive line. They set the tone for the team more than any other position and that's why I was very happy when they drafted Harrison with the 1st pick last year. My perspective for this year is based on the belief that the coaches feel that the current line with Morse at center and a healthy Scherff, Robinson and Cleveland is capable of performing at a high level. Whether any of us agree is irrelevant since the coaches decide who will be on the field when the season starts.They didn't just re-sign Cleveland and re-negotiate with Scherff to have them sit on the bench. Even if someone gets hurt, Walker Little is very capable to replace them. 

What will fans say when C.J. Stroud and his 3 excellent receivers torch the Jaguars secondary and their 1st round pick (JPJ, Fuaga, Fautanu, Fashanu, Mims, etc) is not even in the starting line-up and Quinyon Mitchell, Arnold, McKinsty and Cooper DeJean are all starting and playing very well? My guess is that they will be calling for Baalke's head- and with good reason.

To me, with all the moves we made in FA we can go BPA.  That's one of the reasons we made all the moves we did I believe.    We don't need to draft for a certain position imo and just take the player that's the highest on our board whether it's dline, oline, WR, TE or CB.  IWe could use any of those positions.  If a QB is there trade back and get some kings ransom

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Not sure they need to abandon strengthening other parts of the roster in the draft overall, but this is a draft that the OL needs to be addressed early. No better place to start than pick 17 in the first round. There are no less than 8 offensive tackles that will be picked on night one, that could be DAY 1 starters on this team. How could you pass that up for a CB or WR who may not even see a significant amount of snaps in 2024.

I may be in the minority regarding the need to take an offensive lineman in round 1 (against it), but I'll stick with this opinion unless Cam gets traded or released prior to draft day. To be clear, I've always been a big believer in the importance of having a good offensive line. They set the tone for the team more than any other position and that's why I was very happy when they drafted Harrison with the 1st pick last year. My perspective for this year is based on the belief that the coaches feel that the current line with Morse at center and a healthy Scherff, Robinson and Cleveland is capable of performing at a high level. Whether any of us agree is irrelevant since the coaches decide who will be on the field when the season starts.They didn't just re-sign Cleveland and re-negotiate with Scherff to have them sit on the bench. Even if someone gets hurt, Walker Little is very capable to replace them. 

What will fans say when C.J. Stroud and his 3 excellent receivers torch the Jaguars secondary and their 1st round pick (JPJ, Fuaga, Fautanu, Fashanu, Mims, etc) is not even in the starting line-up and Quinyon Mitchell, Arnold, McKinsty and Cooper DeJean are all starting and playing very well? My guess is that they will be calling for Baalke's head- and with good reason.

A GM would be foolish to release or trade Cam before the draft if the intention is to go OT in the 1st.  You'd instead be working out tentative deals ahead of time with OT needy teams to trade Cam on draft day almost immediately after you've made your selection and you'd probably have Cam already talking to said team about an extension so there's no hold up if you're trying to get a pick back in this draft as part of the deal.  

If we go OT in the 1st I'd love to see us get a late 3rd or high 4th rounder for him in this draft almost immediately after the trade or in the overnight before Day 2 starts. I think there's a lot of value in that range in this draft. I don't know if they could get that for him given his history, but I'd be ecstatic if we could get it after taking OT in the 1st.

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Teams don't go into a draft and say: "Hey, we have 5 starters on the OL that we feel comfortable going with for 2024, so we are not going to draft an OL in the first round."

No, they look at the chance to make their team closer to elite in adding elite talent in the draft. You want a talented and DEEP OL. 3 of those 5 "starters" could get hurt in camp. "Needs" can change from April to September. Ideally you want 9 or 10 OL that you feel comfortable with getting significant snaps for the offense.

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Teams don't go into a draft and say: "Hey, we have 5 starters on the OL that we feel comfortable going with for 2024, so we are not going to draft an OL in the first round."

No, they look at the chance to make their team closer to elite in adding elite talent in the draft. You want a talented and DEEP OL. 3 of those 5 "starters" could get hurt in camp. "Needs" can change from April to September. Ideally you want 9 or 10 OL that you feel comfortable with getting significant snaps for the offense.

I would say every single team's draft board is highly influenced by needs. Caleb Williams, Drake Maye and the other top quarterbacks will not be on their board which is the same for the Chiefs, Bengals, Texans, Chargers, etc. The Jaguars likely feel very comfortable with 7 linemen at this point (Little and Hance in reserve) which is fine to start the season.They have hopes for Hodges and will draft at least one additional lineman to add to this group,

When the Jaguars will be picking, there should be at least 5 players remaining whom they feel can be elite. Unless Brock Bowers drops to 17, the Jaguars will be selecting a cornerback, pass rusher or receiver with their first pick. If I had to guess the top 5 who might be available, they would be:

1. Mitchell
2.Arnold
3.Wiggins
4.Thomas
5. Verse

If any of those players are available and they take an offensive lineman instead, I will have no problem taking responsibility for being so wrong!

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Teams don't go into a draft and say: "Hey, we have 5 starters on the OL that we feel comfortable going with for 2024, so we are not going to draft an OL in the first round."

No, they look at the chance to make their team closer to elite in adding elite talent in the draft. You want a talented and DEEP OL. 3 of those 5 "starters" could get hurt in camp. "Needs" can change from April to September. Ideally you want 9 or 10 OL that you feel comfortable with getting significant snaps for the offense.

I would say every single team's draft board is highly influenced by needs. Caleb Williams, Drake Maye and the other top quarterbacks will not be on their board which is the same for the Chiefs, Bengals, Texans, Chargers, etc. The Jaguars likely feel very comfortable with 7 linemen at this point (Little and Hance in reserve) which is fine to start the season.They have hopes for Hodges and will draft at least one additional lineman to add to this group,

When the Jaguars will be picking, there should be at least 5 players remaining whom they feel can be elite. Unless Brock Bowers drops to 17, the Jaguars will be selecting a cornerback, pass rusher or receiver with their first pick. If I had to guess the top 5 who might be available, they would be:

1. Mitchell
2.Arnold
3.Wiggins
4.Thomas
5. Verse

If any of those players are available and they take an offensive lineman instead, I will have no problem taking responsibility for being so wrong!

Needs for me is when you have players rated the same.  With that said tackle is still a need imo unless they are going to give Cam an extension.  If they dont want to resign Cam its a pretty big need as Harrison is the only tackle under contract next year and there is always injuries on the online, and if we get so lucky where there is no injuries and everyone is playing at a high level then its just icing on the cake.

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This
https://x.com/49ersSportsTalk/status/177...3712974220

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Tez Walker coming on for a visit. I would love this as a second or third rounder. Clemson played Keon Coleman/Johnny Wilson/Xavier Legette and Walker and Tez stood out as the clear best of the 4 IMO

Very raw but tools are there
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It’s too perfect.

“ODUUUUUUUUNZE”

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Would love this pick in the 3rd. Even with a possible trade up.

https://x.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/177...8041492854

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