Saying it's not hard to find and there are a dozen Zack Martin's in this draft is comical.  He obviously doesn't realize how good Martin has been.  Steve Hutchinson was a great guard that I watched paived the way for Alexander and Peterson who just made the the HOF and had 7 Pro Bowls and 5 1st team All Pros.  Martin has 7 first team All Pros and 9 Pro Bowls and is still the best guard in the league.

That's how lazy sportswriters operate, too -- e.g., team X needs a quarterback -- if they trade up and grab the 4th rated QB, then they had an A draft because they filled their biggest need. See Vikings this year. The lazy sportswriters are projecting that the Vikings and Raiders are after McCarthy or Nix, who project as busts to me. Teams would be wise to defer taking the high-risk QBs until the risk/reward makes more sense. I wouldn't touch either guy until the 3rd round.

Nix has a lot of footwork issues from the little bit I've watched.  I guess it could be corrected, but I'd take Penix over him.  Penix has started getting mocked into the 1st round over the past week or two as well.

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Not sure where to bring this up at so I’ll just throw this in here. Balkie made tmz for his news conference fart.

#Only just cause jags

Hopefully he does better in the draft.

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Not sure where to bring this up at so I’ll just throw this in here. Balkie made tmz for his news conference fart.

#Only just cause jags

Hopefully he does better in the draft.

Hehe, PFT has a whole article praising Baalke for letting one go. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootbal...eak-stride

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

Not hard. His name is JPJ.

Or Christian Haynes.

Or Graham Barton.

Or Tuliese Fuaga.

There's a dozen of them if we make the call.

I doubt all of them will be Hall of famers and multiple times pro bowlers.

My point was that you can't pick a Martin unless you actually pick a lineman. As Michael Jordan said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

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Not sure where to bring this up at so I’ll just throw this in here. Balkie made tmz for his news conference fart.

#Only just cause jags

Hopefully he does better in the draft.

Clearly that's a draft of a different sort.

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I doubt all of them will be Hall of famers and multiple times pro bowlers.

Saying it's not hard to find and there are a dozen Zack Martin's in this draft is comical.  He obviously doesn't realize how good Martin has been.  Steve Hutchinson was a great guard that I watched paived the way for Alexander and Peterson who just made the the HOF and had 7 Pro Bowls and 5 1st team All Pros.  Martin has 7 first team All Pros and 9 Pro Bowls and is still the best guard in the league.

That isn't what I said, what I said was you have to take a lineman in order to have a Zack Martin. We found a Tristan Wirfs a few years back...too bad he's playing for another team. Same with finding a Justin Jefferson, we found one of those also...but took K'Lavon Chaisson instead. You can't draft the best guard in the league if you don't actually draft a guard.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...7920121204

That's why I feel like they want to draft a guard with a high pick (first two rounds) to replace Scherff. 
Good in pass block, mediocre in run block. 
It was also difficult for him to play between a pretty bad center and a rookie who need to improve his run blocking. 
But at this point of his career, Scherff should be a back up. 

Cooper Beebe with the 2nd round pick would be ideal IMO.

I doubt all of them will be Hall of famers and multiple times pro bowlers.

My point was that you can't pick a Martin unless you actually pick a lineman. As Michael Jordan said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

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Not sure where to bring this up at so I’ll just throw this in here. Balkie made tmz for his news conference fart.

#Only just cause jags

Hopefully he does better in the draft.

Clearly that's a draft of a different sort.

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Saying it's not hard to find and there are a dozen Zack Martin's in this draft is comical.  He obviously doesn't realize how good Martin has been.  Steve Hutchinson was a great guard that I watched paived the way for Alexander and Peterson who just made the the HOF and had 7 Pro Bowls and 5 1st team All Pros.  Martin has 7 first team All Pros and 9 Pro Bowls and is still the best guard in the league.

That isn't what I said, what I said was you have to take a lineman in order to have a Zack Martin. We found a Tristan Wirfs a few years back...too bad he's playing for another team. Same with finding a Justin Jefferson, we found one of those also...but took K'Lavon Chaisson instead. You can't draft the best guard in the league if you don't actually draft a guard.

That's not what you said lol.  Nobody would of disagreed if you said that.

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That's why I feel like they want to draft a guard with a high pick (first two rounds) to replace Scherff. 
Good in pass block, mediocre in run block. 
It was also difficult for him to play between a pretty bad center and a rookie who need to improve his run blocking. 
But at this point of his career, Scherff should be a back up. 

Cooper Beebe with the 2nd round pick would be ideal IMO.

My point was that you can't pick a Martin unless you actually pick a lineman. As Michael Jordan said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

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Clearly that's a draft of a different sort.

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That isn't what I said, what I said was you have to take a lineman in order to have a Zack Martin. We found a Tristan Wirfs a few years back...too bad he's playing for another team. Same with finding a Justin Jefferson, we found one of those also...but took K'Lavon Chaisson instead. You can't draft the best guard in the league if you don't actually draft a guard.

That's not what you said lol.  Nobody would of disagreed if you said that.

Sorry, I'll type slower next time.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...7920121204

That's why I feel like they want to draft a guard with a high pick (first two rounds) to replace Scherff. 
Good in pass block, mediocre in run block. 
It was also difficult for him to play between a pretty bad center and a rookie who need to improve his run blocking. 
But at this point of his career, Scherff should be a back up. 

Cooper Beebe with the 2nd round pick would be ideal IMO.

That's not what you said lol.  Nobody would of disagreed if you said that.

Sorry, I'll type slower next time.

I don't think you typing slower will help you.

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Shatley back

https://x.com/Demetrius82/status/1781391894339068266

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Not sure where to bring this up at so I’ll just throw this in here. Balkie made tmz for his news conference fart.

#Only just cause jags

Hopefully he does better in the draft.

always better to get [fart noise] out of the way before the team makes their first round pick. Kinda the opposite of what happened when we took guys like Taven Bryan and Klavon Chiasson

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That's how lazy sportswriters operate, too -- e.g., team X needs a quarterback -- if they trade up and grab the 4th rated QB, then they had an A draft because they filled their biggest need. See Vikings this year. The lazy sportswriters are projecting that the Vikings and Raiders are after McCarthy or Nix, who project as busts to me. Teams would be wise to defer taking the high-risk QBs until the risk/reward makes more sense. I wouldn't touch either guy until the 3rd round.

Nix has a lot of footwork issues from the little bit I've watched.  I guess it could be corrected, but I'd take Penix over him.  Penix has started getting mocked into the 1st round over the past week or two as well.

Nix is a poor man's Mitch Trubisky. I remember how bad he was at Auburn; then he goes to a gimmicky offense and the rest is history.

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"I am only an average man, but by George, I work harder at it than the average man." - Teddy Roosevelt

Nix has a lot of footwork issues from the little bit I've watched.  I guess it could be corrected, but I'd take Penix over him.  Penix has started getting mocked into the 1st round over the past week or two as well.

Nix is a poor man's Mitch Trubisky. I remember how bad he was at Auburn; then he goes to a gimmicky offense and the rest is history.

He entered the portal at AU because they would not let him and his dad pick the new OC when they changed head coaches. I wonder if he will do the same in the pro's

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

That's why I feel like they want to draft a guard with a high pick (first two rounds) to replace Scherff. 
Good in pass block, mediocre in run block. 
It was also difficult for him to play between a pretty bad center and a rookie who need to improve his run blocking. 
But at this point of his career, Scherff should be a back up. 

Cooper Beebe with the 2nd round pick would be ideal IMO.

Sorry, I'll type slower next time.

I don't think you typing slower will help you.

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Shatley back

https://x.com/Demetrius82/status/1781391894339068266

Could of stopped there.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

That's why I feel like they want to draft a guard with a high pick (first two rounds) to replace Scherff. 
Good in pass block, mediocre in run block. 
It was also difficult for him to play between a pretty bad center and a rookie who need to improve his run blocking. 
But at this point of his career, Scherff should be a back up. 

Cooper Beebe with the 2nd round pick would be ideal IMO.

Sorry, I'll type slower next time.

I don't think you typing slower will help you.

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Shatley back

https://x.com/Demetrius82/status/1781391894339068266

I'm a little mixed on the Shatley signing.   If there is little to no guaranteed money, it doesn't hurt to have more depth on your 80 man roster.  However, if this is a signal that the Jaguars don't plan to draft an IOL, I don't like it.

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I don't think you typing slower will help you.

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Shatley back

https://x.com/Demetrius82/status/1781391894339068266

I'm a little mixed on the Shatley signing.   If there is little to no guaranteed money, it doesn't hurt to have more depth on your 80 man roster.  However, if this is a signal that the Jaguars don't plan to draft an IOL, I don't like it.

This is worrisome.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Shatley is Mr. dependable in a pinch.

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I'm a little mixed on the Shatley signing.   If there is little to no guaranteed money, it doesn't hurt to have more depth on your 80 man roster.  However, if this is a signal that the Jaguars don't plan to draft an IOL, I don't like it.

This is worrisome.

They probably plan to, but you can only draft what’s there, this just gives them a safety blanket. Nothing more complicated than that

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I don't think you typing slower will help you.

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Shatley back

https://x.com/Demetrius82/status/1781391894339068266

I'm a little mixed on the Shatley signing.   If there is little to no guaranteed money, it doesn't hurt to have more depth on your 80 man roster.  However, if this is a signal that the Jaguars don't plan to draft an IOL, I don't like it.

At this point Shatley is more like a sparring partner.

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This is worrisome.

They probably plan to, but you can only draft what’s there, this just gives them a safety blanket. Nothing more complicated than that

But he is not safety blanket.  For one, they have been playing him out of position since Doug arrived.  He was good depth until Doug or Rauscher whichever one moved him to guard.  If you can't beat out Fortner you aren't a safety blanket you are a liability and a Hazzard to Trevor

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They probably plan to, but you can only draft what’s there, this just gives them a safety blanket. Nothing more complicated than that

But he is not safety blanket.  For one, they have been playing him out of position since Doug arrived.  He was good depth until Doug or Rauscher whichever one moved him to guard.  If you can't beat out Fortner you aren't a safety blanket you are a liability and a Hazzard to Trevor

I am hoping he is a practice squad veteran.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

I don't think you typing slower will help you.

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Shatley back

https://x.com/Demetrius82/status/1781391894339068266

I'm a little mixed on the Shatley signing.   If there is little to no guaranteed money, it doesn't hurt to have more depth on your 80 man roster.  However, if this is a signal that the Jaguars don't plan to draft an IOL, I don't like it.

I can't imagine there will be much, if any, in guarantees.  Will be interesting to see the details when they are made public.

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Shatley is Mr. dependable in a pinch.

Don’t talk about Baalke like that!

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