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Most competitive roster position

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There are several positions going into this season which will have tough competition for a roster spot. However, the one that really stands out to me is cornerback. Campbell, Darby,
Jones and Savage (nickel) should be locks to make the team. The list of possible players who will make the roster for cornerback depth is long including the following:

Montaric Brown
Tre Flowers
Christian Braswell
Erick Hallett
Greg Junior
De'Antre Prince
Tevaughn Campbell

That make 7 players vying for 2 spots at the most. I expect a very spirited competition, with the hope that a couple of the young players will clearly emerge as not only roster locks but as potential future starters. Ideally, that would be Braswell, Hallett or Junior who would show big jumps from year 1 or the rookie Prince. If none of those youngsters earn the coaches confidence in the pre-season, I'd expect Flowers or Brown to make the team due to their experience. 

What position do you see as the most competitive going into this season?
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#2
(This post was last modified: 06-18-2024, 02:22 PM by Caldrac. Edited 2 times in total.)

I think the interior of the defensive line should be much, much better than last year's outing. Between Armstead's addition, Hamilton back from injury, Smith and Jefferson added from this year's draft class along with Ledbetter. It should make for an interesting line-up and rotation this pre season.

I think other guys like Lacy, Robertson-Harris and Gotsis could make for some interesting, interchangeable players playing inside or from the edge in this base look as well. The defense in general is going to be the more exciting group to watch. Like you said, between the secondary and the lineman it should have some healthy competitions all summer.

On offense, it's really just the back end of the WR room and seeing where Hodges, Fortner, Little and Foster end up on the depth chart along the offensive line. If Hodges is getting work and looks in at Center? I would like to see Fortner getting some work in at RG to relieve Scherff if needed and then you have Foster with his swing tackle ability potentially challenging Little for his job and then some.

Walker Little needs to do something this summer and pre season. Still disappointed this team has had not enough faith in him to move on from Cam Robinson at LT or to even spare this team from having to draft Anton Harrison at RT just a year ago when Taylor left for Kansas City. He's easily been the most disappointing selection of Meyer/Baalke's draft classes so far in my opinion.

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(06-18-2024, 02:19 PM)Caldrac Wrote: I think the interior of the defensive line should be much, much better than last year's outing. Between Armstead's addition, Hamilton back from injury, Smith and Jefferson added from this year's draft class along with Ledbetter. It should make for an interesting line-up and rotation this pre season.

I think other guys like Lacy, Robertson-Harris and Gotsis could make for some interesting, interchangeable players playing inside or from the edge in this base look as well. The defense in general is going to be the more exciting group to watch. Like you said, between the secondary and the lineman it should have some healthy competitions all summer.

On offense, it's really just the back end of the WR room and seeing where Hodges, Fortner, Little and Foster end up on the depth chart along the offensive line. If Hodges is getting work and looks in at Center? I would like to see Fortner getting some work in at RG to relieve Scherff if needed and then you have Foster with his swing tackle ability potentially challenging Little for his job and then some.

Walker Little needs to do something this summer and pre season. Still disappointed this team has had not enough faith in him to move on from Cam Robinson at LT or to even spare this team from having to draft Anton Harrison at RT just a year ago when Taylor left for Kansas City. He's easily been the most disappointing selection of Meyer/Baalke's draft classes so far in my opinion.

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The defensive line is definitely a candidate to be most improved this season. I do believe that it will take time for Maason Smith to become a big factor due to his limited playing time and injury while at LSU. Jefferson should become a very good nose tackle and the combination of Armstead, Hamilton, Jefferson and Smith has the potential to be very disruptive enabling Allen, Walker and Gipson to thrive as pass rushers in whatever schemes Ryan Nielsen comes up with.
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#4

(06-18-2024, 01:48 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: There are several positions going into this season which will have tough competition for a roster spot. However, the one that really stands out to me is cornerback. Campbell, Darby,
Jones and Savage (nickel) should be locks to make the team. The list of possible players who will make the roster for cornerback depth is long including the following:

Montaric Brown
Tre Flowers
Christian Braswell
Erick Hallett
Greg Junior
De'Antre Prince
Tevaughn Campbell

That make 7 players vying for 2 spots at the most. I expect a very spirited competition, with the hope that a couple of the young players will clearly emerge as not only roster locks but as potential future starters. Ideally, that would be Braswell, Hallett or Junior who would show big jumps from year 1 or the rookie Prince. If none of those youngsters earn the coaches confidence in the pre-season, I'd expect Flowers or Brown to make the team due to their experience. 

What position do you see as the most competitive going into this season?

I know in the past we have thought about standard defensive position groups. This year I am assuming due to our new DC we will need to change our though processes a bit.  If you look at the Falcons initial 53 man roster they do not list CB's and Safeties.  In fact take a look they have 3 position groups, LB(8), DL(7) and DB(10). 

As for competitiveness, this may be one of the most competitive training camp in years.  

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#5

CB and DL will both be the most competitive, but DL will also be the deepest. All of a sudden we have a lot of talent on the defensive line, and we will be letting some guys go that will wind up on other teams.
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(This post was last modified: 06-19-2024, 05:58 PM by NFLfandom. Edited 4 times in total.)

(06-19-2024, 05:20 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: CB and DL will both be the most competitive, but DL will also be the deepest. All of a sudden we have a lot of talent on the defensive line, and we will be letting some guys go that will wind up on other teams.
Seems like some Jags fans think Darnell Savage is going to be some great NB. I wonder why that is? Because he was a Packer? The Packers let him go because he can't tackle and blows coverages on a steady basis. One pick 6 in a blowout in the playoffs doesn't cover up all the missed tackles and blown assignments.

Maybe you should actually watch the games.
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(This post was last modified: 06-19-2024, 06:15 PM by The Real Marty. Edited 1 time in total.)

(06-19-2024, 05:26 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 05:20 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: CB and DL will both be the most competitive, but DL will also be the deepest.  All of a sudden we have a lot of talent on the defensive line, and we will be letting some guys go that will wind up on other teams.
Seems like some Jags fans think Darnell Savage is going to be some great NB. I wonder why that is? Because he was a Packer? The Packers let him go because he can't tackle and blows coverages on a steady basis. One pick 6 in a blowout in the playoffs doesn't cover up all the missed tackles and blown assignments.

Maybe you should actually watch the games.

Haha.  Very funny.  

"Competitive" doesn't mean I think they're all great.  I was really just thinking of how many CBs we have acquired both in the draft and in free agency in the last 3 years.  I'm not saying we have two superstars at CB.  Just a lot of players vying for a few roster spots.  Actually, unless one of them takes a big step forward, I think we'll still be in the market for a starter next year.
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(This post was last modified: 06-19-2024, 06:17 PM by NFLfandom. Edited 1 time in total.)

(06-19-2024, 06:11 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 05:26 PM)NFLfandom Wrote: Seems like some Jags fans think Darnell Savage is going to be some great NB. I wonder why that is? Because he was a Packer? The Packers let him go because he can't tackle and blows coverages on a steady basis. One pick 6 in a blowout in the playoffs doesn't cover up all the missed tackles and blown assignments.

Maybe you should actually watch the games.

Haha.  Very funny.  

I was really just thinking of how many CBs we have acquired both in the draft and in free agency.  I'm not saying we have two superstars at CB.  Just a lot of players vying for a few roster spots.   Actually, unless one of them takes a big step forward, I think we'll still be in the market for a starter next year.
I would be interested to see how Jarrian Jones does at NB in camp. Savage was benched in Green Bay in 2022. Mostly played safety in Green Bay, but he was tried at NB as well. Not good.
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(06-19-2024, 06:16 PM)NFLfandom Wrote:
(06-19-2024, 06:11 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: Haha.  Very funny.  

I was really just thinking of how many CBs we have acquired both in the draft and in free agency.  I'm not saying we have two superstars at CB.  Just a lot of players vying for a few roster spots.   Actually, unless one of them takes a big step forward, I think we'll still be in the market for a starter next year.
I would be interested to see how Jarrian Jones does at NB in camp. Savage was benched in Green Bay in 2022. Mostly played safety in Green Bay, but he was tried at NB as well. Not good.

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(This post was last modified: 06-19-2024, 10:18 PM by Jag149. Edited 2 times in total.)

Personally I am hoping the offensive line is the most competitive group. We kept 10 last year. There are some locks here:
Cam Robinson - Tackle
Ezra Cleveland - Guard
Mitch Morse - Center
Brandon Sheriff - Guard
Anton Harrison - Tackle
Walker Little - Tackle
Javon Foster - Tackle

Since it appears we have 4 locks at tackle. Sorry guys I just don't see Hance or Cole Van Lanen acing out the 4 tackles above. The competition SHOULD be in the IOL depth positions.
After guard Chandler Brewer (G) went on IR, they claimed Jack Anderson (G/C) off the Colts which actually could spell Shatley's end.

IOL depth contestants:
Tyler Shatley - Guard/Center
Luke Fortner
Cooper Hodges - Guard
Hance - Tackle
Chandler Brewer - Guard
Darryl Williams - Guard
Jack Anderson - Guard/Center
Cole Van Lanen - Tackle
Keaton Sutherland - Guard
Steven Jones - Guard

Yea, I know I have Shatley, Forther and Hodges in this group. None are locks. These guys are fighting for 3 spots on the 53 unless we trade someone from the 7 locks.
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(06-19-2024, 09:56 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Personally I am hoping the offensive line is the most competitive group. We kept 10 last year. There are some locks here:
Cam Robinson - Tackle
Ezra Cleveland - Guard
Mitch Morse - Center
Brandon Sheriff - Guard
Anton Harrison - Tackle
Walker Little - Tackle
Javon Foster - Tackle

Since it appears we have 4 locks at tackle. Sorry guys I just don't see Hance or Cole Van Lanen acing out the 4 tackles above. The competition SHOULD be in the IOL depth positions.
After guard Chandler Brewer (G) went on IR, they claimed Jack Anderson (G/C) off the Colts which actually could spell Shatley's end.

IOL depth contestants:
Tyler Shatley - Guard/Center
Luke Fortner
Cooper Hodges - Guard
Hance - Tackle
Chandler Brewer - Guard
Darryl Williams - Guard
Jack Anderson - Guard/Center
Cole Van Lanen - Tackle
Keaton Sutherland - Guard
Steven Jones - Guard

Yea, I know I have Shatley, Forther and Hodges in this group. None are locks. These guys are fighting for 3 spots on the 53 unless we trade someone from the 7 locks.


Speaking of the trade possibilities, I think a lot of it hinges on what they decide about Cam. If they choose to not resign him, I think he’s a mid season trade. If they choose to resign him, I think Little is the odd man out, with Foster becoming the swing tackle.


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(06-19-2024, 09:56 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Personally I am hoping the offensive line is the most competitive group.  We kept 10 last year. There are some locks here:
Cam Robinson - Tackle
Ezra Cleveland - Guard
Mitch Morse - Center
Brandon Sheriff - Guard
Anton Harrison - Tackle
Walker Little - Tackle
Javon Foster - Tackle

Since it appears we have 4 locks at tackle. Sorry guys I just don't see Hance or Cole Van Lanen acing out the 4 tackles above. The competition SHOULD be in the IOL depth positions.
After guard Chandler Brewer (G) went on IR, they claimed Jack Anderson (G/C) off the Colts which actually could spell Shatley's end.

IOL depth contestants:
Tyler Shatley - Guard/Center
Luke Fortner
Cooper Hodges - Guard
Hance - Tackle
Chandler Brewer - Guard
Darryl Williams - Guard
Jack Anderson - Guard/Center
Cole Van Lanen - Tackle
Keaton Sutherland - Guard
Steven Jones - Guard

Yea,  I know I have Shatley,  Forther and Hodges in this group. None are locks. These guys are fighting for 3 spots on the 53 unless we trade someone from the 7 locks.

Agreed. The competition is hopefully good this summer with the IOL group. They simply have to play better as a unit and they have to start pushing forward more in the running game. 

It's an absolute necessity this year for the ground game to be on the plus side of things and not in the negative as much as they were last year. The inability to pick-up chump change when needed on the ground cost us game after game after game last season.
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(06-19-2024, 09:56 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Personally I am hoping the offensive line is the most competitive group.  We kept 10 last year. There are some locks here:
Cam Robinson - Tackle
Ezra Cleveland - Guard
Mitch Morse - Center
Brandon Sheriff - Guard
Anton Harrison - Tackle
Walker Little - Tackle
Javon Foster - Tackle

Since it appears we have 4 locks at tackle. Sorry guys I just don't see Hance or Cole Van Lanen acing out the 4 tackles above. The competition SHOULD be in the IOL depth positions.
After guard Chandler Brewer (G) went on IR, they claimed Jack Anderson (G/C) off the Colts which actually could spell Shatley's end.

IOL depth contestants:
Tyler Shatley - Guard/Center
Luke Fortner
Cooper Hodges - Guard
Hance - Tackle
Chandler Brewer - Guard
Darryl Williams - Guard
Jack Anderson - Guard/Center
Cole Van Lanen - Tackle
Keaton Sutherland - Guard
Steven Jones - Guard

Yea,  I know I have Shatley,  Forther and Hodges in this group. None are locks. These guys are fighting for 3 spots on the 53 unless we trade someone from the 7 locks.

When the team announced the signing of WR Trammell, they also announced the release of Jack Anderson.
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(06-19-2024, 09:56 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Personally I am hoping the offensive line is the most competitive group.  We kept 10 last year. There are some locks here:
Cam Robinson - Tackle
Ezra Cleveland - Guard
Mitch Morse - Center
Brandon Sheriff - Guard
Anton Harrison - Tackle
Walker Little - Tackle
Javon Foster - Tackle

Since it appears we have 4 locks at tackle. Sorry guys I just don't see Hance or Cole Van Lanen acing out the 4 tackles above. The competition SHOULD be in the IOL depth positions.
After guard Chandler Brewer (G) went on IR, they claimed Jack Anderson (G/C) off the Colts which actually could spell Shatley's end.

IOL depth contestants:
Tyler Shatley - Guard/Center
Luke Fortner
Cooper Hodges - Guard
Hance - Tackle
Chandler Brewer - Guard
Darryl Williams - Guard
Jack Anderson - Guard/Center
Cole Van Lanen - Tackle
Keaton Sutherland - Guard
Steven Jones - Guard

Yea,  I know I have Shatley,  Forther and Hodges in this group. None are locks. These guys are fighting for 3 spots on the 53 unless we trade someone from the 7 locks.

I don’t see Shatley making the team unless there are multiple injuries on the IOL. He would be a adequate fill in if needed. I think Hodges wins his spot as a utility backup and is given a chance to compete for RG next year.
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(06-19-2024, 09:56 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Personally I am hoping the offensive line is the most competitive group.  We kept 10 last year. There are some locks here:
Cam Robinson - Tackle
Ezra Cleveland - Guard
Mitch Morse - Center
Brandon Sheriff - Guard
Anton Harrison - Tackle
Walker Little - Tackle
Javon Foster - Tackle

Since it appears we have 4 locks at tackle. Sorry guys I just don't see Hance or Cole Van Lanen acing out the 4 tackles above. The competition SHOULD be in the IOL depth positions.
After guard Chandler Brewer (G) went on IR, they claimed Jack Anderson (G/C) off the Colts which actually could spell Shatley's end.

IOL depth contestants:
Tyler Shatley - Guard/Center
Luke Fortner
Cooper Hodges - Guard
Hance - Tackle
Chandler Brewer - Guard
Darryl Williams - Guard
Jack Anderson - Guard/Center
Cole Van Lanen - Tackle
Keaton Sutherland - Guard
Steven Jones - Guard

Yea,  I know I have Shatley,  Forther and Hodges in this group. None are locks. These guys are fighting for 3 spots on the 53 unless we trade someone from the 7 locks.
Offensive line is right there with cornerback for most competitive roster positions. Although Baalke and Pederson have given no indication of trading Cam, I wouldn't totally rule it out. If Little has a very solid pre-season and they like what they see in Foster, they would have to consider trade offers from other teams. I could definitely see the Jaguars being enticed to deal Cam if they could receive a 3rd rounder in return. 

As far as the other spots, it will be fun to watch. As is the case with the cornerbacks, my hope would be that the " youngsters" like Hodges and Jones have great pre-seasons and make the 53 man roster. While many are high on Hodges, we still need to see him do it on the field. Jones is likely to need a lot of development, but he could earn a spot on the team rather than risk losing him if placed on the practice squad.
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I can't see Cam Robinson as a potential trade candidate. Not unless Walker Little just absolutely crushes everybody in front of him this summer and makes a strong case to be the clear cut LT1. Robinson offers a grittiness and attitude to this group that we lack virtually down the line.

With the exception of maybe Morse. I have hopes with Morse being a 10 year veteran and coming down from Buffalo where he was used to slugging it out for tough yardage. In a perfect world though, Little establishes himself, he becomes LT1 as a former 2nd RD pick going into contract extensions, and Robinson is traded along with his stupidly high cap percentage.

But, I just don't see it personally.
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(06-20-2024, 09:51 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I can't see Cam Robinson as a potential trade candidate. Not unless Walker Little just absolutely crushes everybody in front of him this summer and makes a strong case to be the clear cut LT1. Robinson offers a grittiness and attitude to this group that we lack virtually down the line.

With the exception of maybe Morse. I have hopes with Morse being a 10 year veteran and coming down from Buffalo where he was used to slugging it out for tough yardage. In a perfect world though, Little establishes himself, he becomes LT1 as a former 2nd RD pick going into contract extensions, and Robinson is traded along with his stupidly high cap percentage.

But, I just don't see it personally.


If they moved on from Cam, I see Anton being LT and Walker being RT. I’d rather keep Cam over Walker as it stands at the moment.


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