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Let's Talk About- Political Edition


(07-16-2024, 01:17 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Senator Bob Menendez found guilty.

https://time.com/6999212/sen-bob-menende...cars-cash/

Keep draining the swamp.


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(07-16-2024, 12:28 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 12:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: Was there an active and televised threat to Trump's life within minutes of Gass' words?
Because there was an active and televised threat to the VP and members of Congress' lives within minutes of Trump's words.
If Gass should apologize, Trump should apologize all the more.

I'm not asking for Gass to apologize.  He's apparently a very sick individual and does not deserve fame or fortune.  He should be cancelled and so should anyone that stands with him.  You're inferring Trump's intent because there were no vile verbal requests or otherwise made to attack or kill anyone.  Do you see the difference? 

This seems an awfully ridiculous hill to plant your flag on to defend.

Wait, so there is no chance that Gass could repent and be forgiven?

Also, why do you keep saying this is about my personal feelings?  Why do you keep saying I'm the only one making this inference about Trump's words? Buddy, about 2,500 people inferred the exact same thing I inferred and followed his instructions.
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(07-16-2024, 01:17 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Senator Bob Menendez found guilty.

https://time.com/6999212/sen-bob-menende...cars-cash/
(07-16-2024, 01:22 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 01:17 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Senator Bob Menendez found guilty.

https://time.com/6999212/sen-bob-menende...cars-cash/

Keep draining the swamp.
Time to take the ship down with him, start talking before the cameras get turned off and nobody knows what happened

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(07-16-2024, 01:31 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 12:28 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: I'm not asking for Gass to apologize.  He's apparently a very sick individual and does not deserve fame or fortune.  He should be cancelled and so should anyone that stands with him.  You're inferring Trump's intent because there were no vile verbal requests or otherwise made to attack or kill anyone.  Do you see the difference? 

This seems an awfully ridiculous hill to plant your flag on to defend.

Wait, so there is no chance that Gass could repent and be forgiven?

Also, why do you keep saying this is about my personal feelings?  Why do you keep saying I'm the only one making this inference about Trump's words? Buddy, about 2,500 people inferred the exact same thing I inferred and followed his instructions.

He can seek help and perhaps be forgiven in time. Apologizing isn't going to cut it.  In the mean time, what I said stands for my household.  I will not judge you or anyone else for not following suit.  

But this is you and how you operate. You're completely blown to smithereens in the previous post but you ignore that and come at it again from a different angle.  I don't care what 2,500 other people say or if they agree with you.  A plurality doesn't automatically equal truth.  It's irrelevant to our discussion about YOU attempting to equate actual words of violence or words wishing for violence with what YOU have clearly inferred from Trump's words on January 6th.  These things are not the same.  Do you take joy in irritating people online with this nonsense?   This can't have been who you aspired to be growing up.
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(07-16-2024, 01:55 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 01:31 PM)mikesez Wrote: Wait, so there is no chance that Gass could repent and be forgiven?

Also, why do you keep saying this is about my personal feelings?  Why do you keep saying I'm the only one making this inference about Trump's words? Buddy, about 2,500 people inferred the exact same thing I inferred and followed his instructions.

He can seek help and perhaps be forgiven in time. Apologizing isn't going to cut it.  In the mean time, what I said stands for my household.  I will not judge you or anyone else for not following suit.  

But this is you and how you operate. You're completely blown to smithereens in the previous post but you ignore that and come at it again from a different angle.  I don't care what 2,500 other people say or if they agree with you.  A plurality doesn't automatically equal truth.  It's irrelevant to our discussion about YOU attempting to equate actual words of violence or words wishing for violence with what YOU have clearly inferred from Trump's words on January 6th.  These things are not the same.  Do you take joy in irritating people online with this nonsense?   This can't have been who you aspired to be growing up.

You forgot to capitalize blown and smithereens man.
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(07-16-2024, 01:17 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Senator Bob Menendez found guilty.

https://time.com/6999212/sen-bob-menende...cars-cash/

They're calling him Gold Bar Bob lololol
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(07-16-2024, 12:14 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 11:57 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: No, you were told it revealed an emotional component to your statement when you were denying there was any.    Your quick reply here and misquote of me reveals you are likely still dealing with those emotions.   I'm not denying an emotional component to my statement above.  I'm also not inferring anything that Gass said.  He said it.  It's vile and should be condemned in the strongest possible manner.

Was there an active and televised threat to Trump's life within minutes of Gass' words?
Because there was an active and televised threat to the VP and members of Congress' lives within minutes of Trump's words.
If Gass should apologize, Trump should apologize all the more.

(07-16-2024, 12:43 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 12:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: He doesn't see the difference and there's no molehill too small for him to dig his heels into before he reverses himself and blames you for misunderstanding him.

He doesn't see what's become obvious to me which is that his emotions are driving his "logic", at least when it comes to the topic of Trump.

I tried to warn him about how he was coming off. He just doesn't get it.
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(07-16-2024, 02:04 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 01:55 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: He can seek help and perhaps be forgiven in time. Apologizing isn't going to cut it.  In the mean time, what I said stands for my household.  I will not judge you or anyone else for not following suit.  

But this is you and how you operate. You're completely blown to smithereens in the previous post but you ignore that and come at it again from a different angle.  I don't care what 2,500 other people say or if they agree with you.  A plurality doesn't automatically equal truth.  It's irrelevant to our discussion about YOU attempting to equate actual words of violence or words wishing for violence with what YOU have clearly inferred from Trump's words on January 6th.  These things are not the same.  Do you take joy in irritating people online with this nonsense?   This can't have been who you aspired to be growing up.

You forgot to capitalize blown and smithereens man.
Over in East Orlando we have the practice facilities for both WWE and AEW.  You could stop by and complete your education.

I try really hard to approach you here without insults.  I've probably failed at that at times.  I do incorporate humor and memes frequently and although they are used to poke fun at a comment or situation, I don't consider them the same as directly calling someone idiot or moron or what have you.  I get the feeling from how you engage me that you don't like me.  I don't overly care if someone on here dislikes me or not, but if I've made a direct insult to you previously or something that you perceive as a direct insult that you are harboring feelings about, I apologize.  I'll do better.  I know you get a lot of them from other parties on here.  You are awfully quick to dole them out as well though as evidenced above.  What's the point in even engaging me here if that's the inevitable end result? 

Do you not see your response to Actual words vs Inferred being "well 2500 people agree with me on the inference" as being absolutely irrelevant and ridiculous?  I never said you were the only one who believes the inference, but YOU engaged me on this topic remember?  And then when your "logic" fell apart you reverted to an insult.  In the context of this discussion, that's garbage.  If you're harboring feelings from another comment I made in another discussion, please DM me or air it here if you prefer.
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(07-16-2024, 02:42 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 02:04 PM)mikesez Wrote: You forgot to capitalize blown and smithereens man.
Over in East Orlando we have the practice facilities for both WWE and AEW.  You could stop by and complete your education.

I try really hard to approach you here without insults.  I've probably failed at that at times.  I do incorporate humor and memes frequently and although they are used to poke fun at a comment or situation, I don't consider them the same as directly calling someone idiot or moron or what have you.  I get the feeling from how you engage me that you don't like me.  I don't overly care if someone on here dislikes me or not, but if I've made a direct insult to you previously or something that you perceive as a direct insult that you are harboring feelings about, I apologize.  I'll do better.  I know you get a lot of them from other parties on here.  You are awfully quick to dole them out as well though as evidenced above.  What's the point in even engaging me here if that's the inevitable end result? 

Do you not see your response to Actual words vs Inferred being "well 2500 people agree with me on the inference" as being absolutely irrelevant and ridiculous?  I never said you were the only one who believes the inference, but YOU engaged me on this topic remember?  And then when your "logic" fell apart you reverted to an insult.  In the context of this discussion, that's garbage.  If you're harboring feelings from another comment I made in another discussion, please DM me or air it here if you prefer.

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(07-16-2024, 02:44 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 02:42 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: I try really hard to approach you here without insults.  I've probably failed at that at times.  I do incorporate humor and memes frequently and although they are used to poke fun at a comment or situation, I don't consider them the same as directly calling someone idiot or moron or what have you.  I get the feeling from how you engage me that you don't like me.  I don't overly care if someone on here dislikes me or not, but if I've made a direct insult to you previously or something that you perceive as a direct insult that you are harboring feelings about, I apologize.  I'll do better.  I know you get a lot of them from other parties on here.  You are awfully quick to dole them out as well though as evidenced above.  What's the point in even engaging me here if that's the inevitable end result? 

Do you not see your response to Actual words vs Inferred being "well 2500 people agree with me on the inference" as being absolutely irrelevant and ridiculous?  I never said you were the only one who believes the inference, but YOU engaged me on this topic remember?  And then when your "logic" fell apart you reverted to an insult.  In the context of this discussion, that's garbage.  If you're harboring feelings from another comment I made in another discussion, please DM me or air it here if you prefer.

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(07-16-2024, 02:42 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 02:04 PM)mikesez Wrote: You forgot to capitalize blown and smithereens man.
Over in East Orlando we have the practice facilities for both WWE and AEW.  You could stop by and complete your education.

I try really hard to approach you here without insults.  I've probably failed at that at times.  I do incorporate humor and memes frequently and although they are used to poke fun at a comment or situation, I don't consider them the same as directly calling someone idiot or moron or what have you.  I get the feeling from how you engage me that you don't like me.  I don't overly care if someone on here dislikes me or not, but if I've made a direct insult to you previously or something that you perceive as a direct insult that you are harboring feelings about, I apologize.  I'll do better.  I know you get a lot of them from other parties on here.  You are awfully quick to dole them out as well though as evidenced above.  What's the point in even engaging me here if that's the inevitable end result? 

Do you not see your response to Actual words vs Inferred being "well 2500 people agree with me on the inference" as being absolutely irrelevant and ridiculous?  I never said you were the only one who believes the inference, but YOU engaged me on this topic remember?  And then when your "logic" fell apart you reverted to an insult.  In the context of this discussion, that's garbage.  If you're harboring feelings from another comment I made in another discussion, please DM me or air it here if you prefer.

I didn't bring up the number 2500 simply because it's a high number. 
I didn't bring up that number as if it's enough people to show that my skills of inferring things are good.
I brought it up because it is a number of people who broke into the seat of our government, tried to harm our government officials, and who started doing these things when Trump said to start, and stopped doing these things when Trump said to stop.
Trump incited violence on January 6th. People keep refusing to accept those very simple six words. 
They keep saying things like it wasn't that violent, it wasn't that serious, Trump didn't mean it. 
None of these excuses are valid, but they are also besides the point. 
The point is, regardless of what Trump intended for his followers to do after they got to the Capitol in January 6th, they understood him to be telling them to be violent. Even if we take the most charitable and innocent view of Donald Trump's actions possible, it comes down to people who listen to his speech and who read his tweets misunderstanding his meaning.
After Saturday, Biden has said both publicly and privately that he should avoid using terms like bullseye or target when talking about Trump. And rightly so. People like you demanded it, people like me demanded it, and he did so.
Yet Trump hasn't apologized for even one word that came out of his mouth or out of his smartphone on January 6th. Instead he has called the people who were violent that day who have been convicted of being violent, heroes. He has them sitting as delegates in the Republican national convention.
Are you starting to see the asymmetry? The one way ratcheting of it all?
Would you apologize if people misunderstood you in a way that created a violent riot? I would. Maybe you wouldn't.
Maybe Biden shouldn't have apologized.
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(07-16-2024, 03:33 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 02:42 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: I try really hard to approach you here without insults.  I've probably failed at that at times.  I do incorporate humor and memes frequently and although they are used to poke fun at a comment or situation, I don't consider them the same as directly calling someone idiot or moron or what have you.  I get the feeling from how you engage me that you don't like me.  I don't overly care if someone on here dislikes me or not, but if I've made a direct insult to you previously or something that you perceive as a direct insult that you are harboring feelings about, I apologize.  I'll do better.  I know you get a lot of them from other parties on here.  You are awfully quick to dole them out as well though as evidenced above.  What's the point in even engaging me here if that's the inevitable end result? 

Do you not see your response to Actual words vs Inferred being "well 2500 people agree with me on the inference" as being absolutely irrelevant and ridiculous?  I never said you were the only one who believes the inference, but YOU engaged me on this topic remember?  And then when your "logic" fell apart you reverted to an insult.  In the context of this discussion, that's garbage.  If you're harboring feelings from another comment I made in another discussion, please DM me or air it here if you prefer.

I didn't bring up the number 2500 simply because it's a high number. 
I didn't bring up that number as if it's enough people to show that my skills of inferring things are good.
I brought it up because it is a number of people who broke into the seat of our government, tried to harm our government officials, and who started doing these things when Trump said to start, and stopped doing these things when Trump said to stop.
Trump incited violence on January 6th. People keep refusing to accept those very simple six words. 
They keep saying things like it wasn't that violent, it wasn't that serious, Trump didn't mean it. 
None of these excuses are valid, but they are also besides the point. 
The point is, regardless of what Trump intended for his followers to do after they got to the Capitol in January 6th, they understood him to be telling them to be violent. Even if we take the most charitable and innocent view of Donald Trump's actions possible, it comes down to people who listen to his speech and who read his tweets misunderstanding his meaning.
After Saturday, Biden has said both publicly and privately that he should avoid using terms like bullseye or target when talking about Trump. And rightly so. People like you demanded it, people like me demanded it, and he did so.
Yet Trump hasn't apologized for even one word that came out of his mouth or out of his smartphone on January 6th. Instead he has called the people who were violent that day who have been convicted of being violent, heroes. He has them sitting as delegates in the Republican national convention.
Are you starting to see the asymmetry? The one way ratcheting of it all?
Would you apologize if people misunderstood you in a way that created a violent riot? I would. Maybe you wouldn't.
Maybe Biden shouldn't have apologized.

You are inferring meaning from words that do not say what you say they are saying and also indicting the many for the actions of the few.  2500 people did not try to harm government officials that day. Not even close.  Many never entered the building, many strolled in looked around and strolled out, some were making light of the situation by making a photo op out of it.  That doesn't excuse anyone who actually did partake in the violence and vandalism of that day, but those are individual crimes that deserve individual punishment.  You are allowed to protest in this country.  Following your logic, the many are guilty of the actions of a few and the organizer is also guilty of the actions of the few, which makes protesting anything a very dangerous and unwise proposition.  Congrats on snuffing those dissenting voices out my authoritarian comrade, Mike.

Also, congrats again on, as always, avoiding the bulk of the post you're quoting.  I don't know why I bothered.
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(07-16-2024, 02:42 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 02:04 PM)mikesez Wrote: You forgot to capitalize blown and smithereens man.
Over in East Orlando we have the practice facilities for both WWE and AEW.  You could stop by and complete your education.

I try really hard to approach you here without insults.  I've probably failed at that at times.  I do incorporate humor and memes frequently and although they are used to poke fun at a comment or situation, I don't consider them the same as directly calling someone idiot or moron or what have you.  I get the feeling from how you engage me that you don't like me.  I don't overly care if someone on here dislikes me or not, but if I've made a direct insult to you previously or something that you perceive as a direct insult that you are harboring feelings about, I apologize.  I'll do better.  I know you get a lot of them from other parties on here.  You are awfully quick to dole them out as well though as evidenced above.  What's the point in even engaging me here if that's the inevitable end result? 

Do you not see your response to Actual words vs Inferred being "well 2500 people agree with me on the inference" as being absolutely irrelevant and ridiculous?  I never said you were the only one who believes the inference, but YOU engaged me on this topic remember?  And then when your "logic" fell apart you reverted to an insult.  In the context of this discussion, that's garbage.  If you're harboring feelings from another comment I made in another discussion, please DM me or air it here if you prefer.

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(07-16-2024, 04:13 PM)copycat Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 02:42 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: I try really hard to approach you here without insults.  I've probably failed at that at times.  I do incorporate humor and memes frequently and although they are used to poke fun at a comment or situation, I don't consider them the same as directly calling someone idiot or moron or what have you.  I get the feeling from how you engage me that you don't like me.  I don't overly care if someone on here dislikes me or not, but if I've made a direct insult to you previously or something that you perceive as a direct insult that you are harboring feelings about, I apologize.  I'll do better.  I know you get a lot of them from other parties on here.  You are awfully quick to dole them out as well though as evidenced above.  What's the point in even engaging me here if that's the inevitable end result? 

Do you not see your response to Actual words vs Inferred being "well 2500 people agree with me on the inference" as being absolutely irrelevant and ridiculous?  I never said you were the only one who believes the inference, but YOU engaged me on this topic remember?  And then when your "logic" fell apart you reverted to an insult.  In the context of this discussion, that's garbage.  If you're harboring feelings from another comment I made in another discussion, please DM me or air it here if you prefer.

I like you if that means anything.

Aww shucks, thanks man.  Back at ya.
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(07-16-2024, 04:10 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 03:33 PM)mikesez Wrote: I didn't bring up the number 2500 simply because it's a high number. 
I didn't bring up that number as if it's enough people to show that my skills of inferring things are good.
I brought it up because it is a number of people who broke into the seat of our government, tried to harm our government officials, and who started doing these things when Trump said to start, and stopped doing these things when Trump said to stop.
Trump incited violence on January 6th. People keep refusing to accept those very simple six words. 
They keep saying things like it wasn't that violent, it wasn't that serious, Trump didn't mean it. 
None of these excuses are valid, but they are also besides the point. 
The point is, regardless of what Trump intended for his followers to do after they got to the Capitol in January 6th, they understood him to be telling them to be violent. Even if we take the most charitable and innocent view of Donald Trump's actions possible, it comes down to people who listen to his speech and who read his tweets misunderstanding his meaning.
After Saturday, Biden has said both publicly and privately that he should avoid using terms like bullseye or target when talking about Trump. And rightly so. People like you demanded it, people like me demanded it, and he did so.
Yet Trump hasn't apologized for even one word that came out of his mouth or out of his smartphone on January 6th. Instead he has called the people who were violent that day who have been convicted of being violent, heroes. He has them sitting as delegates in the Republican national convention.
Are you starting to see the asymmetry? The one way ratcheting of it all?
Would you apologize if people misunderstood you in a way that created a violent riot? I would. Maybe you wouldn't.
Maybe Biden shouldn't have apologized.

You are inferring meaning from words that do not say what you say they are saying and also indicting the many for the actions of the few.  2500 people did not try to harm government officials that day. Not even close.  Many never entered the building, many strolled in looked around and strolled out, some were making light of the situation by making a photo op out of it.  That doesn't excuse anyone who actually did partake in the violence and vandalism of that day, but those are individual crimes that deserve individual punishment.  You are allowed to protest in this country.  Following your logic, the many are guilty of the actions of a few and the organizer is also guilty of the actions of the few, which makes protesting anything a very dangerous and unwise proposition.  Congrats on snuffing those dissenting voices out my authoritarian comrade, Mike.

Also, congrats again on, as always, avoiding the bulk of the post you're quoting.  I don't know why I bothered.

To go along with that, I wonder if Mikesez like so many other far left liberal democrats think that this is when President Trump told people to "break into the seat of our government, try to harm our government officials, and who started doing these things when Trump said to start".

This is a direct quote from the transcript of his speech that day:

Quote:Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down.
Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.

Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

Only people with a small pea brain would think that those words incite violence.


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(07-16-2024, 04:10 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 03:33 PM)mikesez Wrote: I didn't bring up the number 2500 simply because it's a high number. 
I didn't bring up that number as if it's enough people to show that my skills of inferring things are good.
I brought it up because it is a number of people who broke into the seat of our government, tried to harm our government officials, and who started doing these things when Trump said to start, and stopped doing these things when Trump said to stop.
Trump incited violence on January 6th. People keep refusing to accept those very simple six words. 
They keep saying things like it wasn't that violent, it wasn't that serious, Trump didn't mean it. 
None of these excuses are valid, but they are also besides the point. 
The point is, regardless of what Trump intended for his followers to do after they got to the Capitol in January 6th, they understood him to be telling them to be violent. Even if we take the most charitable and innocent view of Donald Trump's actions possible, it comes down to people who listen to his speech and who read his tweets misunderstanding his meaning.
After Saturday, Biden has said both publicly and privately that he should avoid using terms like bullseye or target when talking about Trump. And rightly so. People like you demanded it, people like me demanded it, and he did so.
Yet Trump hasn't apologized for even one word that came out of his mouth or out of his smartphone on January 6th. Instead he has called the people who were violent that day who have been convicted of being violent, heroes. He has them sitting as delegates in the Republican national convention.
Are you starting to see the asymmetry? The one way ratcheting of it all?
Would you apologize if people misunderstood you in a way that created a violent riot? I would. Maybe you wouldn't.
Maybe Biden shouldn't have apologized.

You are inferring meaning from words that do not say what you say they are saying and also indicting the many for the actions of the few.  2500 people did not try to harm government officials that day. Not even close.  Many never entered the building, many strolled in looked around and strolled out, some were making light of the situation by making a photo op out of it.  That doesn't excuse anyone who actually did partake in the violence and vandalism of that day, but those are individual crimes that deserve individual punishment.  You are allowed to protest in this country.  Following your logic, the many are guilty of the actions of a few and the organizer is also guilty of the actions of the few, which makes protesting anything a very dangerous and unwise proposition.  Congrats on snuffing those dissenting voices out my authoritarian comrade, Mike.

Also, congrats again on, as always, avoiding the bulk of the post you're quoting.  I don't know why I bothered.

OK, let's say that of the 2500 who entered the building (which is a crime, trespassing) only 500 went on to commit any other crime.  Is 500 a small enough number that Trump shouldn't have to apologize for people misunderstanding his words as an immediate call to violence?

I'll try to avoid insulting you in the future now that I know you don't think it's funny. I don't think I insult people any more quickly than anyone else on this board does but I'll try to remember it matters to you.
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(07-16-2024, 04:43 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 04:10 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: You are inferring meaning from words that do not say what you say they are saying and also indicting the many for the actions of the few.  2500 people did not try to harm government officials that day. Not even close.  Many never entered the building, many strolled in looked around and strolled out, some were making light of the situation by making a photo op out of it.  That doesn't excuse anyone who actually did partake in the violence and vandalism of that day, but those are individual crimes that deserve individual punishment.  You are allowed to protest in this country.  Following your logic, the many are guilty of the actions of a few and the organizer is also guilty of the actions of the few, which makes protesting anything a very dangerous and unwise proposition.  Congrats on snuffing those dissenting voices out my authoritarian comrade, Mike.

Also, congrats again on, as always, avoiding the bulk of the post you're quoting.  I don't know why I bothered.

To go along with that, I wonder if Mikesez like so many other far left liberal democrats think that this is when President Trump told people to "break into the seat of our government, try to harm our government officials, and who started doing these things when Trump said to start".

This is a direct quote from the transcript of his speech that day:

Quote:Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down.
Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.

Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

Only people with a small pea brain would think that those words incite violence.

I guess the people who violently protested at the Capitol on January 6 have pea brains?

(07-16-2024, 04:50 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Trump grabbed Mikesez by the [BLEEP]..

You're confused.  He was high fiving me while he got you with the ol' Freddy Finger from behind.  Crazy night, I know. Try not to black out next time!
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(07-16-2024, 04:52 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-16-2024, 04:43 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: To go along with that, I wonder if Mikesez like so many other far left liberal democrats think that this is when President Trump told people to "break into the seat of our government, try to harm our government officials, and who started doing these things when Trump said to start".

This is a direct quote from the transcript of his speech that day:


Only people with a small pea brain would think that those words incite violence.

I guess the people who violently protested at the Capitol on January 6 have pea brains?

(07-16-2024, 04:50 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Trump grabbed Mikesez by the [BLEEP]..

You're confused.  He was high fiving me while he got you with the ol' Freddy Finger from behind.  Crazy night, I know.  Try not to black out next time!

I'd hate to see your search history..
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