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Let's Talk About- Political Edition


10 Ways Trump is Throwing Away the Election [by someone who I think wants him to win]

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/482...-campaign/
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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
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Public-private partnership at its finest.
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Oof. This is bad. No excuse for protecting a piece of [BLEEP] like that.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-vi8mJPm...Znc2aHQ0NA==

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I mean, it's kind of feeling that way, but, still voting for Trump in November.

https://twitter.com/NickJFuentes/status/...NTjrw&s=19

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(08-17-2024, 09:51 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I mean, it's kind of feeling that way, but, still voting for Trump in November.

https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/182477...NTjrw&s=19

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Define "Trumpism."
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(08-17-2024, 10:54 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 09:51 AM)Caldrac Wrote: I mean, it's kind of feeling that way, but, still voting for Trump in November.

https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/182477...NTjrw&s=19

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Define "Trumpism."

Define "Rino".
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(08-17-2024, 11:08 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 10:54 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Define "Trumpism."

Define "Rino".

Any Republican who doesn't like Trump.
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(08-17-2024, 11:12 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 11:08 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Define "Rino".

Any Republican who doesn't like Trump.

I said rino, not "sellout".

Hmmmm..

Tomato/tomatoe..
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(This post was last modified: 08-17-2024, 12:11 PM by mikesez. Edited 2 times in total.)

Trumpism is, in terms of action, wanting to reduce both legal and illegal immigration, wanting to reduce income taxes, wanting to increase tariffs but only through executive action, not caring about deficits, opposing any cut to social security or medicare, wanting to reduce the independence of cabinet level departments by requiring stricter loyalty to the president, wanting to put the federal reserve bank more directly under the President's supervision.

In terms of speech only, it is also about demonizing social media companies, traditional media, and all world governments besides Russia. He doesn't follow through on these words but he does say them.

His hangers-on also like to talk about going after trans people, drag queens, black lives matter protestors, and abortion doctors, but Trump himself doesn't care about those things.
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Trumpism is a strong America that is self-sufficient, meritocratic, culturally unified, and the predominant global superpower in the world.
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(This post was last modified: 08-17-2024, 12:21 PM by The Real Marty. Edited 1 time in total.)

(08-17-2024, 12:12 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Trumpism is a strong America that is self-sufficient, meritocratic, culturally unified, and the predominant global superpower in the world.

I see Trumpism as protectionist, socially conservative, and isolationist.

But when you say "culturally unified," what do you mean exactly?  Like we should all be Christian conservatives?
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(This post was last modified: 08-17-2024, 12:57 PM by mikesez. Edited 1 time in total.)

(08-17-2024, 12:19 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 12:12 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Trumpism is a strong America that is self-sufficient, meritocratic, culturally unified, and the predominant global superpower in the world.

I see Trumpism as protectionist, socially conservative, and isolationist.

But when you say "culturally unified," what do you mean exactly?  Like we should all be Christian conservatives?

He's talking about a fantasy world where there is only one American culture and one version of American history and no need to do anything about perceptions of inequality besides suppress them.
And that's how it would be implemented.  The only way it ever could be.  Suppress and ignore undesired speech.
There are Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Latinos, Whites, Asians, and atheists who all subscribe to versions of this.  They each think they get to be the ones in charge of implementing it.
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(08-17-2024, 12:19 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 12:12 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Trumpism is a strong America that is self-sufficient, meritocratic, culturally unified, and the predominant global superpower in the world.

I see Trumpism as protectionist, socially conservative, and isolationist.

But when you say "culturally unified," what do you mean exactly?  Like we should all be Christian conservatives?

You should all be American. Culturally a western European society with Enlightenment values underscored by Judeo-Christian ethics. Economically a capitalist free market unhampered by government interference.

(08-17-2024, 12:50 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 12:19 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: I see Trumpism as protectionist, socially conservative, and isolationist.

But when you say "culturally unified," what do you mean exactly?  Like we should all be Christian conservatives?

He's talking about a fantasy world where there is only one American culture and one version of American history and no need to do anything about perceptions of inequality besides suppress them.
And that's how it would be implemented.  The only way it ever could be.  Suppress and ignore undesired speech.
There are Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Latinos, Whites, Asians, and atheists who all subscribe to versions of this.  They each think they get to be the ones in charge of implementing it.

No you dip [BLEEP], a society that protects the rights of individuals through adherence to the Constitution in which they are enshrined.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(08-17-2024, 12:58 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 12:19 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: I see Trumpism as protectionist, socially conservative, and isolationist.

But when you say "culturally unified," what do you mean exactly?  Like we should all be Christian conservatives?

You should all be American. Culturally a western European society with Enlightenment values underscored by Judeo-Christian ethics. Economically a capitalist free market unhampered by government interference.

(08-17-2024, 12:50 PM)mikesez Wrote: He's talking about a fantasy world where there is only one American culture and one version of American history and no need to do anything about perceptions of inequality besides suppress them.
And that's how it would be implemented.  The only way it ever could be.  Suppress and ignore undesired speech.
There are Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Latinos, Whites, Asians, and atheists who all subscribe to versions of this.  They each think they get to be the ones in charge of implementing it.

No you dip [BLEEP], a society that protects the rights of individuals through adherence to the Constitution in which they are enshrined.

Right, so if I want to complain that this society was racist from the beginning, and that black, female, and queer voices need to be amplified in the media, you would be happy with just boycotting me? You wouldn't want to do anything else to retaliate?
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(08-17-2024, 01:08 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 12:58 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You should all be American. Culturally a western European society with Enlightenment values underscored by Judeo-Christian ethics. Economically a capitalist free market unhampered by government interference.


No you dip [BLEEP], a society that protects the rights of individuals through adherence to the Constitution in which they are enshrined.

Right, so if I want to complain that this society was racist from the beginning, and that black, female, and queer voices need to be amplified in the media, you would be happy with just boycotting me? You wouldn't want to do anything else to retaliate?

Of course, sunlight is the best disinfectant for stupid ideas. I'm a rights absolutist. You know this.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(This post was last modified: 08-17-2024, 01:39 PM by homebiscuit. Edited 1 time in total.)

(08-17-2024, 01:08 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 12:58 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You should all be American. Culturally a western European society with Enlightenment values underscored by Judeo-Christian ethics. Economically a capitalist free market unhampered by government interference.


No you dip [BLEEP], a society that protects the rights of individuals through adherence to the Constitution in which they are enshrined.

Right, so if I want to complain that this society was racist from the beginning, and that black, female, and queer voices need to be amplified in the media, you would be happy with just boycotting me? You wouldn't want to do anything else to retaliate?

Why do they need to be amplified?

In other news, Trump has hired Tulsi Gabbard to prep him for the debate. This could get really interesting.
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