Salvageable? Cmon man with the hyperbole.

He's not living up to the player he was billed out to be when he left Clemson. His ceiling was Matt Ryan for me with his floor being Alex Smith. He's tilted more towards Alex Smith since the injuries from last year.

I just don't have enough confidence in him for the long term. Especially with this current front office and coaching staff. Hence, he's salvageable. Like it or not. He's been an average QB with a below average record and a high amount of turnovers.

I don't care about the potential plays missed. The potential missed opportunities. The eye tests. The coulda, woulda, shoulda of it all. He's simply not where he should be, and, that $275M contract extension puts even more tension on these facts.

Maybe Ben Johnson can turn him into Jared Goff or better. Maybe Slowik can turn him into C.J Stroud or better. Maybe Belichick can turn him into Matt Ryan or better. We simply don't know or won't know until things change from the top, down.

22 - 35 in 57 career starts.

70 some odd TD's Vs. God knows how many turnovers.

Completion percentage down with current trajectories set to be his lowest since his rookie season.

So, I mean, it's year four. We're 2 - 6 now. I'd say your next regime is looking to salvage what they can out of him and anybody else that has a solid floor and high ceiling to work with.

Not sure why everybody's panties gets in a massive bunch anytime someone *gasps* refuses to accept mediocre or below mediocre results in progress from any position on the team. Regardless if it's the QB's complete fault or not.

Again. You are what your record says you are. The statistics are also there to support said body of work.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

He's not living up to the player he was billed out to be when he left Clemson. His ceiling was Matt Ryan for me with his floor being Alex Smith. He's tilted more towards Alex Smith since the injuries from last year.

I just don't have enough confidence in him for the long term. Especially with this current front office and coaching staff. Hence, he's salvageable. Like it or not. He's been an average QB with a below average record and a high amount of turnovers.

I don't care about the potential plays missed. The potential missed opportunities. The eye tests. The coulda, woulda, shoulda of it all. He's simply not where he should be, and, that $275M contract extension puts even more tension on these facts.

Maybe Ben Johnson can turn him into Jared Goff or better. Maybe Slowik can turn him into C.J Stroud or better. Maybe Belichick can turn him into Matt Ryan or better. We simply don't know or won't know until things change from the top, down.

22 - 35 in 57 career starts.

70 some odd TD's Vs. God knows how many turnovers.

Completion percentage down with current trajectories set to be his lowest since his rookie season.

So, I mean, it's year four. We're 2 - 6 now. I'd say your next regime is looking to salvage what they can out of him and anybody else that has a solid floor and high ceiling to work with.

Not sure why everybody's panties gets in a massive bunch anytime someone *gasps* refuses to accept mediocre or below mediocre results in progress from any position on the team. Regardless if it's the QB's complete fault or not.

Again. You are what your record says you are. The statistics are also there to support said body of work.

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Caldrac isn’t a troll. And nyc won’t be calling him one. Caldrac posts here about all sorts of subjects. I disagree with some of his recent takes on things but unless under the influence of libations he always makes an articulate case for his opinions

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Salvageable? Cmon man with the hyperbole.

He's not living up to the player he was billed out to be when he left Clemson. His ceiling was Matt Ryan for me with his floor being Alex Smith. He's tilted more towards Alex Smith since the injuries from last year.

I just don't have enough confidence in him for the long term. Especially with this current front office and coaching staff. Hence, he's salvageable. Like it or not. He's been an average QB with a below average record and a high amount of turnovers.

I don't care about the potential plays missed. The potential missed opportunities. The eye tests. The coulda, woulda, shoulda of it all. He's simply not where he should be, and, that $275M contract extension puts even more tension on these facts.

Maybe Ben Johnson can turn him into Jared Goff or better. Maybe Slowik can turn him into C.J Stroud or better. Maybe Belichick can turn him into Matt Ryan or better. We simply don't know or won't know until things change from the top, down.

22 - 35 in 57 career starts.

70 some odd TD's Vs. God knows how many turnovers.

Completion percentage down with current trajectories set to be his lowest since his rookie season.

So, I mean, it's year four. We're 2 - 6 now. I'd say your next regime is looking to salvage what they can out of him and anybody else that has a solid floor and high ceiling to work with.

Not sure why everybody's panties gets in a massive bunch anytime someone *gasps* refuses to accept mediocre or below mediocre results in progress from any position on the team. Regardless if it's the QB's complete fault or not.

Again. You are what your record says you are. The statistics are also there to support said body of work.

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Dude, I feel this so hard. I do. Urban year I truly, TRULY think was like a crazy year for a NFL team.... I truly discredit it, if it was so BAD that KHAN felt he had to let him go mid season you knoooooooooooooow it was that bad. Jim Bob and Trevor has some success and he was sniped. Doug is just.. not a good coach... but Trevor has not been the prince who was promised for sure. Lot's of blame for sure.

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He's not living up to the player he was billed out to be when he left Clemson. His ceiling was Matt Ryan for me with his floor being Alex Smith. He's tilted more towards Alex Smith since the injuries from last year.

I just don't have enough confidence in him for the long term. Especially with this current front office and coaching staff. Hence, he's salvageable. Like it or not. He's been an average QB with a below average record and a high amount of turnovers.

I don't care about the potential plays missed. The potential missed opportunities. The eye tests. The coulda, woulda, shoulda of it all. He's simply not where he should be, and, that $275M contract extension puts even more tension on these facts.

Maybe Ben Johnson can turn him into Jared Goff or better. Maybe Slowik can turn him into C.J Stroud or better. Maybe Belichick can turn him into Matt Ryan or better. We simply don't know or won't know until things change from the top, down.

22 - 35 in 57 career starts.

70 some odd TD's Vs. God knows how many turnovers.

Completion percentage down with current trajectories set to be his lowest since his rookie season.

So, I mean, it's year four. We're 2 - 6 now. I'd say your next regime is looking to salvage what they can out of him and anybody else that has a solid floor and high ceiling to work with.

Not sure why everybody's panties gets in a massive bunch anytime someone *gasps* refuses to accept mediocre or below mediocre results in progress from any position on the team. Regardless if it's the QB's complete fault or not.

Again. You are what your record says you are. The statistics are also there to support said body of work.

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Why would I do that? 


Here's some light reading for you

https://x.com/Ace2x____/status/1850681652537929843

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https://twitter.com/Ace2x____/status/185...2537929843

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Why would I do that? 


Here's some light reading for you

https://x.com/Ace2x____/status/1850681652537929843

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https://twitter.com/Ace2x____/status/185...2537929843

Imagine if Trevor Lawrence had a good HC and OC that knew how to develop a QB...  Maybe he'd win some games...  

Naw, it's the...  (checks notes) GM?

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Why would I do that? 


Here's some light reading for you

https://x.com/Ace2x____/status/1850681652537929843

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https://twitter.com/Ace2x____/status/185...2537929843

Imagine if Trevor Lawrence had a good HC and OC that knew how to develop a QB...  Maybe he'd win some games...  

Naw, it's the...  (checks notes) GM?

I’m starting to see why people get frustrated with you. 

You’re literally beating a dead horse. All OF the staff is culpable.

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Imagine if Trevor Lawrence had a good HC and OC that knew how to develop a QB...  Maybe he'd win some games...  

Naw, it's the...  (checks notes) GM?

I’m starting to see why people get frustrated with you. 

You’re literally beating a dead horse. All OF the staff is culpable.

Ouch.  I don't to be frustrating.  I'm just trying to make my point.  

Let me know what I'm doing that is frustrating.

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Why would I do that? 


Here's some light reading for you

https://x.com/Ace2x____/status/1850681652537929843

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https://twitter.com/Ace2x____/status/185...2537929843

Imagine if Trevor Lawrence had a good HC and OC that knew how to develop a QB...  Maybe he'd win some games...  

Naw, it's the...  (checks notes) GM?

Baalke 100% is a major problem and needs to go. The new GM gets to decide what staff to get rid of. We do not have the talent that you think we do.

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Imagine if Trevor Lawrence had a good HC and OC that knew how to develop a QB...  Maybe he'd win some games...  

Naw, it's the...  (checks notes) GM?

Baalke 100% is a major problem and needs to go. The new GM gets to decide what staff to get rid of. We do not have the talent that you think we do.

We had the talent enough to beat the Packers.

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Baalke 100% is a major problem and needs to go. The new GM gets to decide what staff to get rid of. We do not have the talent that you think we do.

We had the talent enough to beat the Packers.

Bad teams can still win games. It happens.

This team is still lacking talent.

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Trevor seems to have become damaged goods and will be on his 4th head coach in almost as many years come next year. I fear the things that are broken in him aren't fixable. His regression is solely on Shad Khan and Trent.

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Not sure if this is going to resonate with anyone here… but was listening to some packer podcasts this morning and they were raving about how Trevor handled their pressure packages yesterday, and how he handled pressure overall throwing darts down the field with guys in his lap. 

Said he is a very good QB who had a couple turnovers and their d has turned people over all season and that the final stat line where he threw for 300 plus yards (which they compared to Strouds performance last week) didn’t even do him justice. 

Interesting perspective from the opponents podcast.

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Baalke 100% is a major problem and needs to go. The new GM gets to decide what staff to get rid of. We do not have the talent that you think we do.

We had the talent enough to beat the Packers.

We didn't have the players to beat the packers.

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Trevor seems to have become damaged goods and will be on his 4th head coach in almost as many years come next year. I fear the things that are broken in him aren't fixable. His regression is solely on Shad Khan and Trent.

What utter [BLEEP] nonsense.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Not sure if this is going to resonate with anyone here… but was listening to some packer podcasts this morning and they were raving about how Trevor handled their pressure packages yesterday, and how he handled pressure overall throwing darts down the field with guys in his lap. 

Said he is a very good QB who had a couple turnovers and their d has turned people over all season and that the final stat line where he threw for 300 plus yards (which they compared to Strouds performance last week) didn’t even do him justice. 

Interesting perspective from the opponents podcast.

Trevor posted the highest QBR, second highest rating, second highest YPA (by 0.1) and most yards thrown against the packers defense so far this season

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Not sure if this is going to resonate with anyone here… but was listening to some packer podcasts this morning and they were raving about how Trevor handled their pressure packages yesterday, and how he handled pressure overall throwing darts down the field with guys in his lap. 

Said he is a very good QB who had a couple turnovers and their d has turned people over all season and that the final stat line where he threw for 300 plus yards (which they compared to Strouds performance last week) didn’t even do him justice. 

Interesting perspective from the opponents podcast.

It won't, the lost season is upon us and the future is too many months away (if the needed change even happens then).

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

We had the talent enough to beat the Packers.

We didn't have the players to beat the packers.

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Trevor seems to have become damaged goods and will be on his 4th head coach in almost as many years come next year. I fear the things that are broken in him aren't fixable. His regression is solely on Shad Khan and Trent.

What utter [BLEEP] nonsense.

You know things are bad when Reddit is making more sense then here

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Not sure if this is going to resonate with anyone here… but was listening to some packer podcasts this morning and they were raving about how Trevor handled their pressure packages yesterday, and how he handled pressure overall throwing darts down the field with guys in his lap. 

Said he is a very good QB who had a couple turnovers and their d has turned people over all season and that the final stat line where he threw for 300 plus yards (which they compared to Strouds performance last week) didn’t even do him justice. 

Interesting perspective from the opponents podcast.

Trevor posted the highest QBR, second highest rating, second highest YPA (by 0.1) and most yards thrown against the packers defense so far this season

And? He also coughed up a fumble inside the 5 and tossed an INT right back to them after being gifted a rare INT from this defense that resulted in 14 points being added to the board. 

I can't get onboard anymore with defending this guy entirely. The dog [BLEEP] starts on offense in Q1 are also on him as well. This team was 1/9 on third down's yesterday. A common theme. 

People gave StroudCrowd hell for stating that Lawrence is damaged goods. While I don't fully agree with that statement, he's not entirely wrong neither. Lawrence's development has been completely stunted by piss poor decision making from ownership, coaching changes and the front office. 

NOBODY should be content with what he's produced so far. 

NOBODY should be looking for silver lining in this [BLEEP] sandwich of a franchise. 

NOBODY should be making excuses for this nonsense after he inked a shiny new $275M deal. Which, by the way, will make it difficult for the next regime to potentially fix this "talented" roster. 

Why is it that C.J Stroud, Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams all look like they're better prospects right out of the gate compared to what we saw and continue to see with Lawrence? Why is Lawrence seeing his worst completion percentage since his rookie season? Why is Lawrence seeing his lowest overall yardage output since his rookie season? 

There needs to be better accountability at this point with him being in year four. There needs to be even BETTER accountability and expectations placed on ownership, the coaching staff and front office. He's behind in his development. Period. He's not where he needs to be in year four. Period. 

Just like the cute little stat comparison of Stroud Vs. Lawrence this year. Stroud is in year two. Not year four. Are we really going to hang our hats on that "reading"? Please, spare me. Stroud's been miles ahead of Lawrence since last year. He's miles ahead of him now, and, again, as cited in here or another thread. 

You ARE what your record says you ARE. And his body of work speaks for itself along with the stats to back it up. We drafted Alex Smith 2.0. Jason Campbell 2.0. His dysfunctional surrounding is exactly similar to what Alex Smith went through in San Francisco. It's similar to what Campbell went through in Washington. 

While it's not ALL on Lawrence, he's not lived up to the hype for the most part. I am clearly hoping things improve with his said surrounding because that's the only way he's going to live up to his potential. He's dead in the water with this current regime. 

It's year four though folks. The training wheels have been off now since at least the 8 - 3 start in 2023. The training wheels were OFFICIALLY off once he inked that new contract. Enough with the excuses, nonsense and defending. Many, many things can be right at the same time. 

These next four games for him are fixing to be murderers row. 

Philadelphia
Minnesota
Detroit
Houston

If he plays mistake free football, wins half of those games and plays perfectly? I will happily eat my [BLEEP] crow, but, just like last year when the schedule got tough? His worst moments cropped up on the stat sheet and film room. I expect him to get his bell rung, banged up and his production to take a nose dive in the turnover department.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Trevor posted the highest QBR, second highest rating, second highest YPA (by 0.1) and most yards thrown against the packers defense so far this season

And? He also coughed up a fumble inside the 5 and tossed an INT right back to them after being gifted a rare INT from this defense that resulted in 14 points being added to the board. 

I can't get onboard anymore with defending this guy entirely. The dog [BLEEP] starts on offense in Q1 are also on him as well. This team was 1/9 on third down's yesterday. A common theme. 

People gave StroudCrowd hell for stating that Lawrence is damaged goods. While I don't fully agree with that statement, he's not entirely wrong neither. Lawrence's development has been completely stunted by piss poor decision making from ownership, coaching changes and the front office. 

NOBODY should be content with what he's produced so far. 

NOBODY should be looking for silver lining in this [BLEEP] sandwich of a franchise. 

NOBODY should be making excuses for this nonsense after he inked a shiny new $275M deal. Which, by the way, will make it difficult for the next regime to potentially fix this "talented" roster. 

Why is it that C.J Stroud, Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams all look like they're better prospects right out of the gate compared to what we saw and continue to see with Lawrence? Why is Lawrence seeing his worst completion percentage since his rookie season? Why is Lawrence seeing his lowest overall yardage output since his rookie season? 

There needs to be better accountability at this point with him being in year four. There needs to be even BETTER accountability and expectations placed on ownership, the coaching staff and front office. He's behind in his development. Period. He's not where he needs to be in year four. Period. 

Just like the cute little stat comparison of Stroud Vs. Lawrence this year. Stroud is in year two. Not year four. Are we really going to hang our hats on that "reading"? Please, spare me. Stroud's been miles ahead of Lawrence since last year. He's miles ahead of him now, and, again, as cited in here or another thread. 

You ARE what your record says you ARE. And his body of work speaks for itself along with the stats to back it up. We drafted Alex Smith 2.0. Jason Campbell 2.0. His dysfunctional surrounding is exactly similar to what Alex Smith went through in San Francisco. It's similar to what Campbell went through in Washington. 

While it's not ALL on Lawrence, he's not lived up to the hype for the most part. I am clearly hoping things improve with his said surrounding because that's the only way he's going to live up to his potential. He's dead in the water with this current regime. 

It's year four though folks. The training wheels have been off now since at least the 8 - 3 start in 2023. The training wheels were OFFICIALLY off once he inked that new contract. Enough with the excuses, nonsense and defending. Many, many things can be right at the same time. 

These next four games for him are fixing to be murderers row. 

Philadelphia
Minnesota
Detroit
Houston

If he plays mistake free football, wins half of those games and plays perfectly? I will happily eat my [BLEEP] crow, but, just like last year when the schedule got tough? His worst moments cropped up on the stat sheet and film room. I expect him to get his bell rung, banged up and his production to take a nose dive in the turnover department.

Mahomes and JAllen both threw picks yesterday that were returned inside the 10 yard line and their defenses gave up 0 points.  It's amazing how TLaw is held to a much higher standard than the elite QB's in the league.

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Trevor posted the highest QBR, second highest rating, second highest YPA (by 0.1) and most yards thrown against the packers defense so far this season

And? He also coughed up a fumble inside the 5 and tossed an INT right back to them after being gifted a rare INT from this defense that resulted in 14 points being added to the board. 

I can't get onboard anymore with defending this guy entirely. The dog [BLEEP] starts on offense in Q1 are also on him as well. This team was 1/9 on third down's yesterday. A common theme. 

People gave StroudCrowd hell for stating that Lawrence is damaged goods. While I don't fully agree with that statement, he's not entirely wrong neither. Lawrence's development has been completely stunted by piss poor decision making from ownership, coaching changes and the front office. 

NOBODY should be content with what he's produced so far. 

NOBODY should be looking for silver lining in this [BLEEP] sandwich of a franchise. 

NOBODY should be making excuses for this nonsense after he inked a shiny new $275M deal. Which, by the way, will make it difficult for the next regime to potentially fix this "talented" roster. 

Why is it that C.J Stroud, Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams all look like they're better prospects right out of the gate compared to what we saw and continue to see with Lawrence? Why is Lawrence seeing his worst completion percentage since his rookie season? Why is Lawrence seeing his lowest overall yardage output since his rookie season? 

There needs to be better accountability at this point with him being in year four. There needs to be even BETTER accountability and expectations placed on ownership, the coaching staff and front office. He's behind in his development. Period. He's not where he needs to be in year four. Period. 

Just like the cute little stat comparison of Stroud Vs. Lawrence this year. Stroud is in year two. Not year four. Are we really going to hang our hats on that "reading"? Please, spare me. Stroud's been miles ahead of Lawrence since last year. He's miles ahead of him now, and, again, as cited in here or another thread. 

You ARE what your record says you ARE. And his body of work speaks for itself along with the stats to back it up. We drafted Alex Smith 2.0. Jason Campbell 2.0. His dysfunctional surrounding is exactly similar to what Alex Smith went through in San Francisco. It's similar to what Campbell went through in Washington. 

While it's not ALL on Lawrence, he's not lived up to the hype for the most part. I am clearly hoping things improve with his said surrounding because that's the only way he's going to live up to his potential. He's dead in the water with this current regime. 

It's year four though folks. The training wheels have been off now since at least the 8 - 3 start in 2023. The training wheels were OFFICIALLY off once he inked that new contract. Enough with the excuses, nonsense and defending. Many, many things can be right at the same time. 

These next four games for him are fixing to be murderers row. 

Philadelphia
Minnesota
Detroit
Houston

If he plays mistake free football, wins half of those games and plays perfectly? I will happily eat my [BLEEP] crow, but, just like last year when the schedule got tough? His worst moments cropped up on the stat sheet and film room. I expect him to get his bell rung, banged up and his production to take a nose dive in the turnover department.

Mercy. Stop being so emotional. Jason Campbell?!

This is the issue. When you compare Trevor to Jason Campbell, no one reads the rest of the BS you posted because it makes it seem like you're throwing a hissy fit.

Trevor is far from perfect. For the millionth time. No one is claiming he is but the dysfunction around him is insane. Caleb Williams just had a disaster of a game but his defense kept him in it. Stroud threw for less than 100 against these same Packers. The texans defense has allowed 30+ one time and that was to the Vikings who currently have the 7th highest scoring offense in the league. Their defense is allowing 22 points a game where the Jags allow 28. 

Even if Trevor plays perfect, this defense is atrocious. They allow the 4th most yards and give up the 4th most points. The tacks, Cowboys and Panthers are the only teams worse.

Trevor is so far down the list of things wrong with this team. I get you want more out of him given his contract but look around him. A HC who hates the GM and does things to spite him. A GM who hates the coach and does things to spite him. WRs who drop TDs. A defense that couldn't stop a nose bleed. If the Jags bring in a GM and HC who are actually on the same page, you will see things change so quickly.

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And? He also coughed up a fumble inside the 5 and tossed an INT right back to them after being gifted a rare INT from this defense that resulted in 14 points being added to the board. 

I can't get onboard anymore with defending this guy entirely. The dog [BLEEP] starts on offense in Q1 are also on him as well. This team was 1/9 on third down's yesterday. A common theme. 

People gave StroudCrowd hell for stating that Lawrence is damaged goods. While I don't fully agree with that statement, he's not entirely wrong neither. Lawrence's development has been completely stunted by piss poor decision making from ownership, coaching changes and the front office. 

NOBODY should be content with what he's produced so far. 

NOBODY should be looking for silver lining in this [BLEEP] sandwich of a franchise. 

NOBODY should be making excuses for this nonsense after he inked a shiny new $275M deal. Which, by the way, will make it difficult for the next regime to potentially fix this "talented" roster. 

Why is it that C.J Stroud, Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams all look like they're better prospects right out of the gate compared to what we saw and continue to see with Lawrence? Why is Lawrence seeing his worst completion percentage since his rookie season? Why is Lawrence seeing his lowest overall yardage output since his rookie season? 

There needs to be better accountability at this point with him being in year four. There needs to be even BETTER accountability and expectations placed on ownership, the coaching staff and front office. He's behind in his development. Period. He's not where he needs to be in year four. Period. 

Just like the cute little stat comparison of Stroud Vs. Lawrence this year. Stroud is in year two. Not year four. Are we really going to hang our hats on that "reading"? Please, spare me. Stroud's been miles ahead of Lawrence since last year. He's miles ahead of him now, and, again, as cited in here or another thread. 

You ARE what your record says you ARE. And his body of work speaks for itself along with the stats to back it up. We drafted Alex Smith 2.0. Jason Campbell 2.0. His dysfunctional surrounding is exactly similar to what Alex Smith went through in San Francisco. It's similar to what Campbell went through in Washington. 

While it's not ALL on Lawrence, he's not lived up to the hype for the most part. I am clearly hoping things improve with his said surrounding because that's the only way he's going to live up to his potential. He's dead in the water with this current regime. 

It's year four though folks. The training wheels have been off now since at least the 8 - 3 start in 2023. The training wheels were OFFICIALLY off once he inked that new contract. Enough with the excuses, nonsense and defending. Many, many things can be right at the same time. 

These next four games for him are fixing to be murderers row. 

Philadelphia
Minnesota
Detroit
Houston

If he plays mistake free football, wins half of those games and plays perfectly? I will happily eat my [BLEEP] crow, but, just like last year when the schedule got tough? His worst moments cropped up on the stat sheet and film room. I expect him to get his bell rung, banged up and his production to take a nose dive in the turnover department.

Mercy. Stop being so emotional. Jason Campbell?!

This is the issue. When you compare Trevor to Jason Campbell, no one reads the rest of the BS you posted because it makes it seem like you're throwing a hissy fit.

Trevor is far from perfect. For the millionth time. No one is claiming he is but the dysfunction around him is insane. Caleb Williams just had a disaster of a game but his defense kept him in it. Stroud threw for less than 100 against these same Packers. The texans defense has allowed 30+ one time and that was to the Vikings who currently have the 7th highest scoring offense in the league. Their defense is allowing 22 points a game where the Jags allow 28. 

Even if Trevor plays perfect, this defense is atrocious. They allow the 4th most yards and give up the 4th most points. The tacks, Cowboys and Panthers are the only teams worse.

Trevor is so far down the list of things wrong with this team. I get you want more out of him given his contract but look around him. A HC who hates the GM and does things to spite him. A GM who hates the coach and does things to spite him. WRs who drop TDs. A defense that couldn't stop a nose bleed. If the Jags bring in a GM and HC who are actually on the same page, you will see things change so quickly.

This seems like a reasonable take

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