You're nuts.  America did not install Zelensky.  He got like 3/4 of the vote there.  Ukraine picked him.

Also, Putin is one of the billionaires of the world and other billionaires in Russia are his biggest supporters. Russia is very much controlled by the global elite.

Who is responsible?  Who pushed this? Well we need a list of suspects. My top 3.

First the promise claimed by Mikhail Gorbachev.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controvers..._expansion

Second the Open Society,
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/v...idan-alive

Last the Biden connection
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66272217

Your list may be different than mine. My take is we will never completely know the facts, so like the 2020 presidential election, all we can do now is deal with the fallout.

Ukraine did not actually have a revolution in 2014. They're operating under the same constitution. The president at the time attempted to violently put down protests, but the protests were so overwhelming that the parliament decided to sympathize with them and remove that president. Zelinsky was elected years afterwards in an ordinary election. The preferences of normal Ukrainian people were the driving force at each step.

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Who is responsible?  Who pushed this? Well we need a list of suspects. My top 3.

First the promise claimed by Mikhail Gorbachev.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controvers..._expansion

Second the Open Society,
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/v...idan-alive

Last the Biden connection
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66272217

Your list may be different than mine. My take is we will never completely know the facts, so like the 2020 presidential election, all we can do now is deal with the fallout.

Ukraine did not actually have a revolution in 2014. They're operating under the same constitution. The president at the time attempted to violently put down protests, but the protests were so overwhelming that the parliament decided to sympathize with them and remove that president. Zelinsky was elected years afterwards in an ordinary election. The preferences of normal Ukrainian people were the driving force at each step.

Well, unless you have some first hand knowledge there is no way to be sure.  One side says A, the other B.  I gave my 3 suspects is all.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

 You left out some stuff. Voted to join Russia at the point of a gun. A fair election in whose eyes? Yours? Russia? Best thing is to put the borders back and let them take care of themselves.

You can't put the borders back. Ukraine continually attacked the areas for 8 years because they want to ethically cleanse them of Russians. The people don't want to go back to Ukraine and be bombed again. They have already voted to leave.
You need to understand the long history on why these people hate each other. The recent history back to Stalin's actions explains a lot but the issues go much further back.

Ukraine needs fair elections since alternative parties have been banned, martial law was declared, and the election was canceled. Repeating stuff that is already in this long thread but one of the biggest reasons the war happened was because the US and NATO caused multiple color revolutions led by Victoria Nuland. She is an evil woman and at the head of a lot of the world issues.

If NATO stops pushing closer to Russia and the US leaves things alone, peace may be able to be reached. It would have been reached long ago if Biden had allowed it.

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The numbers of deaths in Donbass pre 2022 make your first paragraph claims rather silly. And the post Maidan elections have been fair and accepted world wide. As to not holding elections now it is prevented by law due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. NATO isn't "pushing". The nations joining NATO post 1991 do so because of the actions of the USSR and later Russia. Finland and Sweden joined because of Russian invasion of Ukraine.

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Ukraine did not actually have a revolution in 2014. They're operating under the same constitution. The president at the time attempted to violently put down protests, but the protests were so overwhelming that the parliament decided to sympathize with them and remove that president. Zelinsky was elected years afterwards in an ordinary election. The preferences of normal Ukrainian people were the driving force at each step.

Well, unless you have some first hand knowledge there is no way to be sure.  One side says A, the other B.  I gave my 3 suspects is all.

Your links were factual but they don't show that anyone other than the Ukrainian people themselves decided to resist Russian dominance of their politics and economy. No one made the Ukrainians do that.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

lolololol

https://twitter.com/DogRightGirl/status/...0Otag&s=19

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Well, unless you have some first hand knowledge there is no way to be sure.  One side says A, the other B.  I gave my 3 suspects is all.

Your links were factual but they don't show that anyone other than the Ukrainian people themselves decided to resist Russian dominance of their politics and economy.  No one made the Ukrainians do that.

I gave my 3 suspects is all because none of us have first hand knowledge of the issues.. So believe whatever blows your skirt up. But it does not make it correct.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

You can't put the borders back. Ukraine continually attacked the areas for 8 years because they want to ethically cleanse them of Russians.

Oh goody. Another one who peddles this crap.

The people don't want to go back to Ukraine and be bombed again. They have already voted to leave.

In an election rife with fraud & the result of which has not been recognized by any country except Russia, North Korea and Syria.

Ukraine needs fair elections since alternative parties have been banned

Only ones funded by Russia.

martial law was declared, and the election was canceled.

As per the Ukrainian constitution, elections can't take place during Martial Law. And surprise surprise...a government declaring Martial Law when the country is being attacked by a foreign power.

Repeating stuff that is already in this long thread but one of the biggest reasons the war happened was because the US and NATO caused multiple color revolutions led by Victoria Nuland. She is an evil woman and at the head of a lot of the world issues.

Nuland! DRINK!

If NATO stops pushing closer to Russia and the US leaves things alone, peace may be able to be reached

NATO wouldn't be expanding if Russia wasn't a belligerent threat to its neighbors. Ask yourself this: Why did Sweden & Finland join NATO when they did?

Glad I able to help/fix your errors, "p rushing"

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