Etienne is my pick. His fumble on the first game set thee tone for the whole season. I think he can bounce back. Probably nagging injuries affected his year as well.

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The player personnel department needs to be rebuilt completely.

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Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  

ETN had the 5th year option picked up so he's definitely going to be back next year, and he'll be expensive at that. One of the highest paid backup RB's in the NFL.

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Etienne is my pick. His fumble on the first game set thee tone for the whole season. I think he can bounce back. Probably nagging  injuries affected his year as well.

RBs can't effectively RB when the OL is FUBAR.

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Most disappointing player is almost every man on the 53 player roster.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

There is a long list so just state your player and your case.  I will list some honorable mentions and take it from there:

Most Disappointing Player of the year Award Nominations:

Trevor Lawrence: Outside of the injury he did not play to par this season. Outside of Russel Wilson Robbing Denver I have not seen a 6 figure QB play the low level that Lawrence does at times. For every Amazing throw he will back it up with 2 or 3 headscratchers.  Yes some blame can be placed on the talent around him but just looking at plays that were his fault is just mind boggling.  He isn't terrible just middle of the road at best. He has the tools but who know if that will ever come to fruition. The concussions in my mind are a huge red flag regardless of reason is something to be concerned about.  His play before the injury were miles worse than say the 8-3 run we started 2022 with.

Josh Allen:  His play overall was just kinda mediocre to say the least. We have to face the fact that Josh Allen/Travon Walker are not a good enough duo to consistently rush the QB.  Allen did not play no where near his contract this year.  Opposing QB's had too much time in the pocket in too many games this year while he was eating dirty or getting mauled.

The Offensive Line as a whole:  This really is a Jekyll/Hyde situation here.   The line is actually good in pass blocking most of the year. They just don't move people and open up running lanes. 

Cisco:  I was drunk on the Cisco last year.  He has flat out sucked this year.  He has been beatin like a red headed step child in the passing game and not that great coming up to help in run support.  He had a chance to get a big contract and blew it

Armstead;  This guy is an overpaid bum.  I watch him get stood up constantly rushing the passer and getting whipped defending the run.  He is not that player from San Francisco.  Here is hoping that maybe the injury he went through is affecting his game and next year he returns healthy and productive.  Not good at all this year.

ETN:  What happened to that guy who was breaking off long runs, breaking ankles, and breaking tackles?  He is dancing too much in the backfield.  I highly doubt that he comes back

Tyson Campbell:  The guy is a good corner when healthy but again missed some time to injury again.  He is far and away our best corner but it's like saying he is the tallest midget.  Decent player but the contract does not match the production.

Kirk:  He is one of our highest paid guys and didn't do much of anything before his injury.  He had a 3 game stretch where he got close to breaking 100 yards but again the contract and the production do not match.  He was our weapon and now just forgotton

There are many other choices so you choose yours:

My pick is Lawrence.  I do not believe Lawrence was the worst player on the team but the expectations vs the hit on the cap vs the production just looks horrible in my mind.  Unpopular opinion but I do believe in this day and age that it starts with the QB.  I do believe if we had elite or even really good QB play that this would be a playoff team vs the soft schedule.  Just my opinion.

When there are that many "disappointing players" there is something else going on, and the problem isn't the players.

On a defense that is arguably record breakingly bad...I'm never going to say it's not the players.   Why?  Because the Jags in the 2nd half of 2023/2024 were bad with a different defensive staff.   Surprisingly, I'm starting to feel that Rayshaun Jenkins is a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY better safety than either Andre Cisco or Antonio Johnson.    Devon Hamilton is as overrated a DL as I've seen.   I love Foye...I do, but with him as a defensive leader the Jags let a backup Kansas City QB drive the field on them in a playoff game...and it didn't even look hard.


The defense for the past two seasons at least...has been out of position way too often.   It's coaching, yes...but these defensive players...

Hamilton
Darby
Johnson
Armstead
Cisco

underperforming are just as bad as the coaching staff that has been telling them where to go.    All we can do is hope that we'll get a lights out coaching staff that can bring out the best of what we have and that we replace 3 of the players I've mentioned with new starters (Dewey is obviously one of the secondary starters).

You can't always coach success out of average to below average players.

Happy [BLEEP] New Year Duval!! Thank you for letting me be a part.

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Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

I see Dan is at it again.

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There is a long list so just state your player and your case.  I will list some honorable mentions and take it from there:

Most Disappointing Player of the year Award Nominations:

Trevor Lawrence: Outside of the injury he did not play to par this season. Outside of Russel Wilson Robbing Denver I have not seen a 6 figure QB play the low level that Lawrence does at times. For every Amazing throw he will back it up with 2 or 3 headscratchers.  Yes some blame can be placed on the talent around him but just looking at plays that were his fault is just mind boggling.  He isn't terrible just middle of the road at best. He has the tools but who know if that will ever come to fruition. The concussions in my mind are a huge red flag regardless of reason is something to be concerned about.  His play before the injury were miles worse than say the 8-3 run we started 2022 with.

Josh Allen:  His play overall was just kinda mediocre to say the least. We have to face the fact that Josh Allen/Travon Walker are not a good enough duo to consistently rush the QB.  Allen did not play no where near his contract this year.  Opposing QB's had too much time in the pocket in too many games this year while he was eating dirty or getting mauled.

The Offensive Line as a whole:  This really is a Jekyll/Hyde situation here.   The line is actually good in pass blocking most of the year. They just don't move people and open up running lanes. 

Cisco:  I was drunk on the Cisco last year.  He has flat out sucked this year.  He has been beatin like a red headed step child in the passing game and not that great coming up to help in run support.  He had a chance to get a big contract and blew it

Armstead;  This guy is an overpaid bum.  I watch him get stood up constantly rushing the passer and getting whipped defending the run.  He is not that player from San Francisco.  Here is hoping that maybe the injury he went through is affecting his game and next year he returns healthy and productive.  Not good at all this year.

ETN:  What happened to that guy who was breaking off long runs, breaking ankles, and breaking tackles?  He is dancing too much in the backfield.  I highly doubt that he comes back

Tyson Campbell:  The guy is a good corner when healthy but again missed some time to injury again.  He is far and away our best corner but it's like saying he is the tallest midget.  Decent player but the contract does not match the production.

Kirk:  He is one of our highest paid guys and didn't do much of anything before his injury.  He had a 3 game stretch where he got close to breaking 100 yards but again the contract and the production do not match.  He was our weapon and now just forgotton

There are many other choices so you choose yours:

My pick is Lawrence.  I do not believe Lawrence was the worst player on the team but the expectations vs the hit on the cap vs the production just looks horrible in my mind.  Unpopular opinion but I do believe in this day and age that it starts with the QB.  I do believe if we had elite or even really good QB play that this would be a playoff team vs the soft schedule.  Just my opinion.

When there are that many "disappointing players" there is something else going on, and the problem isn't the players.

Coaching no doubt has been lackluster but I agree with my guy Tony Boselli that it is a players league.  We have professional players who obligation is to perform at at high level they owe that to the fans, themselves, and their teammates.  I agree the coaching is a big part of the problem but the more severe issue is the players.  These guys play with little fire while there is no real leaders on the team.  I couldn't list 3 leaders on this team if you paid me.

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When there are that many "disappointing players" there is something else going on, and the problem isn't the players.

Coaching no doubt has been lackluster but I agree with my guy Tony Boselli that it is a players league.  We have professional players who obligation is to perform at at high level they owe that to the fans, themselves, and their teammates.  I agree the coaching is a big part of the problem but the more severe issue is the players.  These guys play with little fire while there is no real leaders on the team.  I couldn't list 3 leaders on this team if you paid me.

Denny the QB Whisperer: "The play book isn't any different than everyone else. If your guys can't run the play it doesn't matter what play you call."

Boselli: "It's Jimmies and Joes not X's and O's"

Jag MB: "Fur Petersun and Press X button not Y button!!!!"

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Mac Jones. He played well enough to cost us a higher 2025 pick.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

There is a long list so just state your player and your case.  I will list some honorable mentions and take it from there:

Most Disappointing Player of the year Award Nominations:

Trevor Lawrence: Outside of the injury he did not play to par this season. Outside of Russel Wilson Robbing Denver I have not seen a 6 figure QB play the low level that Lawrence does at times. For every Amazing throw he will back it up with 2 or 3 headscratchers.  Yes some blame can be placed on the talent around him but just looking at plays that were his fault is just mind boggling.  He isn't terrible just middle of the road at best. He has the tools but who know if that will ever come to fruition. The concussions in my mind are a huge red flag regardless of reason is something to be concerned about.  His play before the injury were miles worse than say the 8-3 run we started 2022 with.

Josh Allen:  His play overall was just kinda mediocre to say the least. We have to face the fact that Josh Allen/Travon Walker are not a good enough duo to consistently rush the QB.  Allen did not play no where near his contract this year.  Opposing QB's had too much time in the pocket in too many games this year while he was eating dirty or getting mauled.

The Offensive Line as a whole:  This really is a Jekyll/Hyde situation here.   The line is actually good in pass blocking most of the year. They just don't move people and open up running lanes. 

Cisco:  I was drunk on the Cisco last year.  He has flat out sucked this year.  He has been beatin like a red headed step child in the passing game and not that great coming up to help in run support.  He had a chance to get a big contract and blew it

Armstead;  This guy is an overpaid bum.  I watch him get stood up constantly rushing the passer and getting whipped defending the run.  He is not that player from San Francisco.  Here is hoping that maybe the injury he went through is affecting his game and next year he returns healthy and productive.  Not good at all this year.

ETN:  What happened to that guy who was breaking off long runs, breaking ankles, and breaking tackles?  He is dancing too much in the backfield.  I highly doubt that he comes back

Tyson Campbell:  The guy is a good corner when healthy but again missed some time to injury again.  He is far and away our best corner but it's like saying he is the tallest midget.  Decent player but the contract does not match the production.

Kirk:  He is one of our highest paid guys and didn't do much of anything before his injury.  He had a 3 game stretch where he got close to breaking 100 yards but again the contract and the production do not match.  He was our weapon and now just forgotton

There are many other choices so you choose yours:

My pick is Lawrence.  I do not believe Lawrence was the worst player on the team but the expectations vs the hit on the cap vs the production just looks horrible in my mind.  Unpopular opinion but I do believe in this day and age that it starts with the QB.  I do believe if we had elite or even really good QB play that this would be a playoff team vs the soft schedule.  Just my opinion.

Definitely TLaw.  The only evidence you need to see is how the offense exploded and became a juggernaut once MJones became the starter and got all the QB1 reps.   Trevor was definitely holding this team back.

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I could name many of them here. The one that disappointed me the most would be Andre Cisco. He has taken a 180 from the previous season.

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Gonna have to agree that Cisco wins this award.
The back end was atrocious.

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Gabe Davis is the biggest disappointment.
Armstead at least played in each game.
Gabe got outplayed by a sixth rounder.

Hard to be a disappointment when there were no expectations of success to start with.

I expected big things.  I expected him to be the #1 option for Trevor.  After BTJ was drafted I sill expected him to be #2.  Even when he was healthy he was the least effective WR he had.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Hard to be a disappointment when there were no expectations of success to start with.

I expected big things.  I expected him to be the #1 option for Trevor.  After BTJ was drafted I sill expected him to be #2.  Even when he was healthy he was the least effective WR he had.

He was just a guy with Josh Allen throwing him the ball, I can't understand why anyone thought he would be more here. Is it the "Zay Jones Effect" or something?

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DaVon Hamilton for me. $10.8M cap hit. 4th highest paid player on defense and he's done nothing consistently noteworthy nor memorable.

He's one of nine players on the active roster with an eight digit cap hit and he plays like a guy that shouldn't be a starter.

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DaVon Hamilton for me. $10.8M cap hit. 4th highest paid player on defense and he's done nothing consistently noteworthy nor memorable.

He's one of nine players on the active roster with an eight digit cap hit and he plays like a guy that shouldn't be a starter.

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Hamilton has been one of the best run stopping NTs in the NFL this season.

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DaVon Hamilton for me. $10.8M cap hit. 4th highest paid player on defense and he's done nothing consistently noteworthy nor memorable.

He's one of nine players on the active roster with an eight digit cap hit and he plays like a guy that shouldn't be a starter.

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Hamilton has been one of the best run stopping NTs in the NFL this season.

And? Where's the pass rushing element or help in that regard? He's overpaid and he sucks.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

DaVon Hamilton for me. $10.8M cap hit. 4th highest paid player on defense and he's done nothing consistently noteworthy nor memorable.

He's one of nine players on the active roster with an eight digit cap hit and he plays like a guy that shouldn't be a starter.

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Hamilton has been one of the best run stopping NTs in the NFL this season.

Because teams know they can throw on the Jags.   If teams want to focus on running Devon Hamilton ain't doing jack to stop them.   He's not even the best DT on our squad, but the best DT doesn't even want to play DT.   THAT guys is the biggest disappointment.

I'd take either of Indy's DTs over Devon.   I'd take any starting AFC North DT over Devon.   He's not good when the competition improves.

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Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

Hamilton has been one of the best run stopping NTs in the NFL this season.

And? Where's the pass rushing element or help in that regard? He's overpaid and he sucks.

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His job as a NT is to clog up the middle, not be a main threat as a pass rusher. Can he get better at pressuring the QB? Yes, but that isn't his first job as a NT. Nobody else on the interior has did jack [BLEEP]. Smith has shown flashes of it, but they've only let him play in like 5 games.

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