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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (05-23-2025, 10:38 AM)mikesez Wrote:(05-23-2025, 09:56 AM)Sneakers Wrote: So, to summarize, journalistic accountability, for you, is measured by profitability and success in influencing public perception. Factual accuracy has become a non-factor, yet you still see nothing wrong with this evolution. If backpedaling was an Olympic sport, you would be a gold medalist. Getting people to believe what you say about others is influencing perception. Leftist "journalism" has no need for facts because brainwashed followers like you unquestioningly ingest whatever they report. You don't want to know facts; you just want to repeat the party rhetoric. Trump is the devil and if it comes from the Right, it's evil and racist.
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(05-23-2025, 01:47 PM)mikesez Wrote:(05-23-2025, 11:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Lol, modern "mainstream" journalism is about rage baiting and spreading propaganda for the clicks. Any thought that it's about integrity or truth is delusional. People don't want the truth, they want the box to tell them what they already believe is true. No, we shouldn't do anything except quit playing their game. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
(05-23-2025, 04:13 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Bring em ALL down, Jack!! Until I see handcuffs on someone all of these “inquiries” are just bombastic displays that fuel rage on both sides. When I actually see DC insiders hauled off in mass then I’ll believe. Chances are nothing will come of this, not one damn thing.
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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening. (05-23-2025, 01:47 PM)mikesez Wrote:(05-23-2025, 11:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Lol, modern "mainstream" journalism is about rage baiting and spreading propaganda for the clicks. Any thought that it's about integrity or truth is delusional. The answer is incredibly obvious, but if you're still having difficulty figuring it out, the colored font should help. P. S. The color selection was not random and is, in fact, a clue itself.
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (05-23-2025, 09:04 PM)Sneakers Wrote:(05-23-2025, 01:47 PM)mikesez Wrote: A lot of it is that way. Um, aren't we saying the same thing? Isn't the competition for eyes and ears and ads essentially a competition for money? That's how I meant it.
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Chalk up ANOTHER Win for Trump and America.........
Trump touts 'partnership' in steel deal with Nippon: 'US Steel will REMAIN in America' Agreement promises 70,000 jobs and $14B investment while keeping headquarters in Pittsburgh President Donald Trump announced Friday that "U.S. Steel will REMAIN in America" and keep its headquarters in Pittsburgh through a new "partnership" with Japan’s Nippon Steel. The deal, which the White House described as a major win for U.S. manufacturing, shifts away from a full foreign acquisition and instead brings fresh capital into domestic steel operations. Trump said the agreement would create at least 70,000 jobs and inject $14 billion into the American economy over the next 14 months. https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/tru...in-america ![]() (05-23-2025, 08:39 PM)copycat Wrote:(05-23-2025, 04:13 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Bring em ALL down, Jack!! Use of the auto-pen without the President being aware and in agreement would be defrauding the US, a clear felony. But it's basically impossible to prove unless the President himself says the machine shouldn't have been used that time. And it would set a dangerous precedent to try to prove it, with yet another 80 year old soon to be in office.
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (05-24-2025, 12:41 AM)mikesez Wrote:(05-23-2025, 08:39 PM)copycat Wrote: Until I see handcuffs on someone all of these “inquiries” are just bombastic displays that fuel rage on both sides. When I actually see DC insiders hauled off in mass then I’ll believe. Chances are nothing will come of this, not one damn thing. One thing that can be proven is 4.7 trillion in untraceable? Payments. The Secretary of the Treasury under Biden is responsible for these payments. He either tells the taxpayers where the money went or spends the rest of his life in jail with no parole or pardon. Personally I believe it is at the level of treason and he should be executed, unless he comes clean. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-g...y-payments
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(05-22-2025, 07:42 PM)mikesez Wrote:(05-22-2025, 06:34 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: I don't deal in hypotheticals, I want a straight answer to a question. If you have to answer a simple question with a hypothetical question then you're being disingenuous, which you are adept at being and why no one takes you seriously. See the bolded. That's my answer. From A to Z the whole situation was a CF. That's all I've got to say about it.
(05-23-2025, 10:38 AM)mikesez Wrote:(05-23-2025, 09:56 AM)Sneakers Wrote: So, to summarize, journalistic accountability, for you, is measured by profitability and success in influencing public perception. Factual accuracy has become a non-factor, yet you still see nothing wrong with this evolution. You influence public perception by getting them to believe what you say is true. They go hand in hand.
I know that this rant is not along the lines of what has been posted here but.... I need to point this out. Agree, or disagree with me, I really don't care..... just that I think this needs to be discussed...........
While sitting outside enjoying the weather this morning, just pondering the mysteries of life, this series of thought started percolating in my noggin. The main problem with government, and the liberals that run these useless and over-bloated bureaucracies is, they all take the one sizes fits all approach to every problem (that they most probably created) that comes down the pike. What may work in one area of the country, will not be feasible in another area of the country. Here's a prime example. All these EV mandates, well, EV's may work in an urban area where it's only a matter of a few miles to commute, or to go to the store to get what you need, however, in a rural setting..... Nope..... There may be miles between where you're at and the nearest store to get what you need to survive. And what about the farmers? Electric tractors would be useless if they need to stop and recharge them every few hours. They wouldn't get their fields plowed in time to plant the crops. They would really need to buy more equipment, and hire more people to get the same job done that they were able to do with only a few pieces of equipment and a few farmhands prior to these mandates. Not to mention that the infrastructure isn't in place to handle the increased needs. And with the way the government works, it would take 30 years of more to even begin to start building it when you consider the requirements they put in place. I'm taking things like environmental impact studies, then procuring the access to private land to run things like power lines through. Then taking into account the bidding process, material approvals, the permit process, among countless (and useless) other regulations, well..... the one size fits all theory goes out the window with all the red tape the government puts in place. To quote Burt Reynolds it the movie Smokey and The Bandit (And this is directed at those government bureaucrats) "When you tell somebody something, it all depends on which part of these United States that you're standing in, that's just how dumb you are" To sum it all up, it's the government that is impeding progress, not the other way around. ![]() We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
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(05-25-2025, 11:14 AM)The Drifter Wrote: I know that this rant is not along the lines of what has been posted here but.... I need to point this out. Agree, or disagree with me, I really don't care..... just that I think this needs to be discussed........... You're right that "one size fits all" approaches are bad but I don't think what Obama and Biden did with electric cars is a one size fits all approach. Certainly where CA is trying to ban all gas and diesel cars within 10 years, that's a one size fits all approach, because right now there is only one technology (battery electric) that performs at scale and isn't gas or diesel. California is effectively closing that market. Closing the market, banning the product, should really only be done if that product is killing or disabling people. California is making a mistake and they're about to pay for it on multiple levels. But Obama and Biden simply tried to make electric cars cheaper compared to gas cars. That doesn't close the market. You can still buy one. It manipulates the market. Manipulating the market is sometimes the best choice, especially a complicated market like cars that's already highly manipulated by banks, insurance, oil companies, dealers, advertisers, etc. When regulation isn't producing the desired outcome, and the outcome is important, then manipulation is justified.
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(05-25-2025, 11:14 AM)The Drifter Wrote: I know that this rant is not along the lines of what has been posted here but.... I need to point this out. Agree, or disagree with me, I really don't care..... just that I think this needs to be discussed........... The real issue is in the past the government has relied heavily on people with no practical experience. Sure they have PHD's, but that only means they are smart and know how to study and regurgitate. It does not mean they have actually ever accomplished anything productive. Whoever bought a widget? Many of the theories they come up with will not work in "real" life. Their solution is to attempt to modify real life so their theories will can possibly work. Just look at Bernie, AOC and Kamela, none have ever had a job in the real world. They are all school then government work then elected office. While they may have good intentions (up to you to decide that) they just are not qualified and easily sold on stupid ideas of PHD's and the prey of more nefarious individuals. If you look at the DOGE structure sure there are a bunch of young'uns doing grunt work but the "task forces are each directed by accomplished business people who have all run successful businesses and took time off to help. They are just going through doing what they do every day in their business. There is no secret sauce guys. In real life these guys get votes from customers in the form of contracts and business. If they ran it like we have been running the government the last decade or so (after Clinton) they would be bankrupt or in jail from SEC violations.
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (05-25-2025, 07:11 PM)Jag149 Wrote:(05-25-2025, 11:14 AM)The Drifter Wrote: I know that this rant is not along the lines of what has been posted here but.... I need to point this out. Agree, or disagree with me, I really don't care..... just that I think this needs to be discussed........... This is how I know you're old: two and a half decades have passed since Clinton was in office. But you're right. Deficit spending is the right and proper thing in a crisis, but you're supposed to go back to balance or surplus when things are good again. The Bush 43 Tax cuts took things out of balance and the Trump tax cuts have made matters worse. The Laffer curve theory is valid, and maybe the Bush tax cuts still had us somewhere around the peak, but the Trump tax cuts certainly did not.
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05-25-2025, 09:04 PM
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(05-25-2025, 07:43 PM)mikesez Wrote:(05-25-2025, 07:11 PM)Jag149 Wrote: The real issue is in the past the government has relied heavily on people with no practical experience. Sure they have PHD's, but that only means they are smart and know how to study and regurgitate. It does not mean they have actually ever accomplished anything productive. Whoever bought a widget? Many of the theories they come up with will not work in "real" life. Their solution is to attempt to modify real life so their theories will can possibly work. Just look at Bernie, AOC and Kamela, none have ever had a job in the real world. They are all school then government work then elected office. While they may have good intentions (up to you to decide that) they just are not qualified and easily sold on stupid ideas of PHD's and the prey of more nefarious individuals. LOL, that is BS. That is ok as we have to use growth, tariffs and reduction of costly over regulation as well as the tax cuts this time dur to the enormity of the deficit The CBO PHD'd (which will not release their calculations) projected doom, gloom and a reduction in tax revenues before the Trump cuts. In actuality tax revenues went up. Actually there is plenty of tax money after the proposed tax cuts to balance the budget and pay down debt in time. IF the government would eliminate waste/fraud, only provide services currently agreed to. OH and also quit stealing the money. The government is not suppose to be a charity.
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05-26-2025, 07:41 AM
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(05-25-2025, 09:04 PM)Jag149 Wrote:(05-25-2025, 07:43 PM)mikesez Wrote: This is how I know you're old: two and a half decades have passed since Clinton was in office. Revenue was down from 2017 to 2018, then up slightly the next year, then down slightly again. Revenue was basically flat while both the economy and the number of retirees grew. The tax cuts simply didn't work as advertised. And they will be less effective this time, with interest rates already high.
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