(01-02-2018, 04:30 PM)Dumptruck Wrote:

(01-02-2018, 03:09 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I hated Manziel, but Mayfield IS NOT Manziel. Manziel was skinny and had the body of a 13 year old boy. He also put outside stuff ahead of football. Mayfield is stout, has a stronger lower body and is passionate about the game. Maybe too passionate at times. He is also mobile enough to move around in the pocket, but I wouldn't really call him a running QB, like Manziel was. I see him more as a Drew Brees type than a Russell Wilson type. He's been fantastic all year, but now people are bagging on him, because his team was eliminated from the playoffs when the loss was not even his fault. Unbelievable!

Manziel was short and thus you had to move the pocket to accommodate him. I think Mayfield will have the same issue. I had issues with Mayfield well before the bowl game. He plays in a conference that doesn't play defense and all of the QBs put up absurd numbers. None of them amount to much when they get to the pros. 

I certainly don't see any Drew Brees in Mayfield's game.

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(01-02-2018, 04:11 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: If Mayfield did fall to the Jaguars at the end of round 1, they would have to seriously consider it. He still would be a little risky due to his size, but his leadership and history of winning at all levels should not be underestimated. That was what stood out about Watson and so far he looks like the real deal.

Being a winner in college is meaningless in the pros if you don't have the physical or mental abilities to perform at that level. Tebow, Leinart, Vince Young, and Wuerrfel were all winners in college.

Other than height, (which I still believe Mayfield is taller,) I see absolutely no comparison between Mayfield and Manziel. They are totally different types of players. Last night Baker stood right in front of Sony Michel for the overtime flip of the coin. Michel is listed at 5'11" and Mayfield is significantly taller. My guess is that Mayfield will measure 6'1" at the Combine,

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