(01-25-2019, 05:11 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(01-25-2019, 04:25 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Part of me is not happy, but the other part takes some positives from this:

1. SOTU address is back on where he has a massive audience to speak to while Nancy sits back there sucking her lips.
2. Dems have to show they are willing to negotiate these next 3 weeks like they promised they would if the government was re-opened. Kind of puts the ball back in their court
3. In 3 weeks time, migrant caravans will be closer to border helping make case stronger.

Let's see how the next 3 weeks play out.

Funny how "migrant caravans" show up right when Trump needs a boost. In politics, as in poker, there are no coincidences.

Democrats do have to negotiate, and I expect they'll immediately offer up additional funding for border security, probably for upgrades and repairs to existing wall segments, but I sincerely doubt you'll see any concessions made for new wall funding, and you definitely won't see Trump risk shutting down the government again. It failed spectacularly for him this time--he's doing the exact deal that Democrats have been pushing for weeks with no promise of wall funding on the back end.

I expect a long speech about how our borders are insecure and it's all the Democrats' fault. Oh, and the GDP is up or something. But mostly, dammit, your children are going to be raped and killed by a Mexican, and it's the Democrats' fault. I'll be curious to see who Democrats select for the rebuttal.  I've seen Barack Obama's name come up on a few different sites, but I'm kind of thinking the Democrats might use this as an opportunity to put Joe Biden out there on a national stage and let him loose on Trump without running the risk of a young gun saying something stupid about a 70% income tax rate. Biden was considered very moderate until he was drafted as VP to one of the farthest left Presidents in US history.

This is not a win for anyone. The issue is still unresolved and the Dems cost the taxpayer more than ten times what Trump was asking for. Boy really showed him. Not to mention they are now backed into a corner and forced to negotiate in good faith. There is no hiding behind emotion now. And guess what, Pelosi still hasn't said a damn thing about addressing border security. Another failure and there will be another shutdown, once again, and without question, on the reneging Democrats. What an embarrassment for all leaders involved. the end, an Emergency will be claimed for security and financial reasons.

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