(03-18-2023, 11:12 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(03-18-2023, 10:59 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: 10:05. THE FACT THAT I LOOKED UP THE VIDEO OF TRES FIRST START OUTSIDE THIS PAST SEASON AFTER SHAQ WENT DOWN AND FOUND HIS FIRST GAME LOSING CHUNK PLAY GIVEN UP JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE THE DUMB [BLEEP] YOU ARE. Like I said, not gonna go through the entire seasons footage just to prove myself, but just for an example of what  I mean, his very first start after Griffin went down he proceeded to give up the big easy play to allow the opposing team to come back and take the lead.

THERE ARE 10-15 PLAYS YOU CAN FIND THROUGHOUT THE SEASON OF HIM GETTING TOASTED ON A GO ROUTE which get swept under the rug a bit, because not ALL of them were the chunk plays that lead to the loss, but he does it in the 4th quarter like it's his job. 

And nothing I said is being an idiot about Williams, I am the original poster that lobbied for him to play outside because Shaq/Tre are liabilities, and he's not nearly on their level of suck.
Everything I said made perfect sense, you're just an ignorant clown who lacks any intelligent thought when it comes to football.

LOL
OK

I think you've changed the point and moved the goalposts three times already, but have fun with that. 
I'm not gonna sit here and argue about whether a backup DB gave up passes or not.
(Hint: we all [BLEEP] knew that already, you moron)

Good luck claiming you were the "original" poster on where Williams should play, I remember several regulars posting doubts about his slot play the day he was signed and you were not one of them. 

If you think it's time to take some victory lap on this herpherndonsuckderp narrative, go for it pal. 
The only debate on the guy is if he sucks bad enough to get a measly one year deal - or if he sucks bad enough to be allowed to walk entirely.  I don't see much meat to chew on there. 

BTW - you claimed repeatedly that he lost us 3 games. Which games, [BLEEP]? Third time I've asked with no answer.

Well it's funny you should mention this sir, because you are right, I wasn't suggesting he play outside because of my "Doubts" of his ability to play in the slot. My suggestion was to move him outside because Griffin was playing like crap weeks 1-2 and Williams was actually a GOOD outside corner last season with the Rams. 

I did not hop on the train of saying his sucked in the slot, that wasn't me you're right. What I said was in week 1-2 and had nothing to do with his slot coverage ability, but the lack of ability shown by Griffin at that point in the season.


Here is something from November.. involving you

(11-02-2022, 12:46 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:

(11-02-2022, 12:40 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: So you are blaming the offensive coordinator of the opposing team. 

Interesting. 

If your #2 CB can't play man coverage - you're gonna pay for it. There is no masking that for an entire football game. 
Good OC's will find a way to get him manned up and exploit it.

I'd be more inclined to have Darius Williams in that spot personally, or at the very least have some safety help.

(11-02-2022, 12:53 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Looking back at the play Herndon got torched on the sideline at the end of the Broncos game, It would appear that either Cisco was either in the wrong spot, or we intended to have Tre outside 1 on 1. Either way, he isn't a good enough DB to trust like that I think most of us would agree.

Sorry for the potato quality.

(11-02-2022, 12:58 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(11-02-2022, 12:46 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: I'd be more inclined to have Darius Williams in that spot personally, or at the very least have some safety help.

Then they'll just create the same mismatch on the nickel-back.

It's chess, and we have too many pawns, not enough heavy/royal pieces on the board in our back seven. 

Oluokun is playing through injury- not himself, Lloyd is great but he's a rookie learning NFL coverage, Herndon is a decent backup at best covering for a bad starter on IR, Williams may or may not play better outside, but they JUST got him acclimated to the slot. 
Jenkins is a roller coaster of good and bad, but hurts the team at crucial moments sometimes. Cisco is coming along nicely and Campbell is a stud. 

That's not the make up of a good coverage unit. It's one that good coordinators will pick on. If Griffin played up to his contract this would be easier to mitigate. He can't and we don't have the depth to overcome it.

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