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Quote:Even the white, Hispanic, Asian, etc. people in the ghetto?


Nah he won because black. This much is clear
Obama was elected because he promised the poor free healthcare and income redistribution. Remember after he won people literally going on the news celebrating they will never live paycheck to paycheck again.


Now some people might have believed him because he was black but that was only part of the equation. Herman Cain was also running but he was promising the opposite less free stuff this he didn't even get the nomination.
Quote:Obama was elected because he promised the poor free healthcare and income redistribution. Remember after he won people literally going on the news celebrating they will never live paycheck to paycheck again.


Now some people might have believed him because he was black but that was only part of the equation. Herman Cain was also running but he was promising the opposite less free stuff this he didn't even get the nomination.
 

There were a lot of reasons Obama was elected.   One of the main ones was who he was running against.   Sometimes, people vote for what they perceive as the lesser of two evils.   I know a lot of people who say they voted for Obama because of Palin.   They had an open mind until that point, but that was the nail in the coffin.    In my case, any chance of voting for McCain went away completely when he put Palin on the ticket.   That move told me McCain's slogan "country first" was a lie. 

Has anyone listened to any of Sarah's speeches recently? She's incoherent.


She's a joke.


As for Obama, if one is it admit some voted for him because he's black, logic dictates that one must then also admit some do not like him because he is black.


For me, I think he's gone to conservative on the economic side as he tried to find compromise with a republican party that has lost its mind. He's done some good. He's done some bad.
champion of the middle class ? what is she going to do, bring back the jobs bill sent abroad ? do not be fooled by this liar

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Quote:Has anyone listened to any of Sarah's speeches recently? She's incoherent.


She's a joke.


As for Obama, if one is it admit some voted for him because he's black, logic dictates that one must then also admit some do not like him because he is black.


For me, I think he's gone to conservative on the economic side as he tried to find compromise with a republican party that has lost its mind. He's done some good. He's done some bad.


Absolutely not. See people only voted for him because of handouts and blackness. The true Americans that dislike him have based their dislike purely on the merits of his fiscal responsibility and ability to govern.
Quote:Obama was elected because he promised the poor free healthcare and income redistribution. Remember after he won people literally going on the news celebrating they will never live paycheck to paycheck again.


Now some people might have believed him because he was black but that was only part of the equation. Herman Cain was also running but he was promising the opposite less free stuff this he didn't even get the nomination.


Yup thats the only thing he ran on. You are better than this.
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Looks like a hipster.
Quote:Yup thats the only thing he ran on. You are better than this.
 

That was his entire campaign, that and ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Other then that he didn't give details on a single issue. He claimed his administration would be transparent and work to fix the income inequality that had grown out of control. The ONLY way government can "fix" income inequality is to confiscate and redistribute.

 

I don't think he was elected BECAUSE he was Black just like I don't think the majority of people that oppose him oppose him BECAUSE he is Black. Obama was the perfect example of a politician playing class warfare, now it's a reality a large section of the Black community is poor so naturally a politician campaigning as their champion that will fix inequality is going to get their vote. He could've been Purple but if he's promising Universal Healthcare, Ending Bush-Era Tax Cuts (seen as tax cuts for the rich), Foreclosure Prevention (in 2008 everyone was in fear of foreclosure), and Immigration Reform (amnesty) then YES he was pandering to the poor with handouts.
Quote:Has anyone listened to any of Sarah's speeches recently? She's incoherent.


She's a joke.


As for Obama, if one is it admit some voted for him because he's black, logic dictates that one must then also admit some do not like him because he is black.


For me, I think he's gone to conservative on the economic side as he tried to find compromise with a republican party that has lost its mind. He's done some good. He's done some bad.
 

Sarah Palin is an idiot, she does more damage to the small government mantra then almost anyone else.
Quote:That was his entire campaign, that and ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Other then that he didn't give details on a single issue. He claimed his administration would be transparent and work to fix the income inequality that had grown out of control. The ONLY way government can "fix" income inequality is to confiscate and redistribute.

 

I don't think he was elected BECAUSE he was Black just like I don't think the majority of people that oppose him oppose him BECAUSE he is Black. Obama was the perfect example of a politician playing class warfare, now it's a reality a large section of the Black community is poor so naturally a politician campaigning as their champion that will fix inequality is going to get their vote. He could've been Purple but if he's promising Universal Healthcare, Ending Bush-Era Tax Cuts (seen as tax cuts for the rich), Foreclosure Prevention (in 2008 everyone was in fear of foreclosure), and Immigration Reform (amnesty) then YES he was pandering to the poor with handouts.
 

Why is it class warfare when you do something that hurts the rich, but not class warfare when you do something to hurt the poor?
Quote:There were a lot of reasons Obama was elected.   One of the main ones was who he was running against.   Sometimes, people vote for what they perceive as the lesser of two evils.   I know a lot of people who say they voted for Obama because of Palin.   They had an open mind until that point, but that was the nail in the coffin.    In my case, any chance of voting for McCain went away completely when he put Palin on the ticket.   That move told me McCain's slogan "country first" was a lie. 
 

I think we all know a lot of people who felt that. My grandfather, who'd been a registered Democrat his entire life (at the time he was 96), would have voted for McCain if it were not for Palin...and you're talking about a black, primitive baptist minister who'd never left the state of Florida other than conventions and vacations. Let that sink in a moment. She scared him...I assure you, that was not an easy thing to accomplish.
Quote:That was his entire campaign, that and ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Other then that he didn't give details on a single issue. He claimed his administration would be transparent and work to fix the income inequality that had grown out of control. The ONLY way government can "fix" income inequality is to confiscate and redistribute.

 

I don't think he was elected BECAUSE he was Black just like I don't think the majority of people that oppose him oppose him BECAUSE he is Black. Obama was the perfect example of a politician playing class warfare, now it's a reality a large section of the Black community is poor so naturally a politician campaigning as their champion that will fix inequality is going to get their vote. He could've been Purple but if he's promising Universal Healthcare, Ending Bush-Era Tax Cuts (seen as tax cuts for the rich), Foreclosure Prevention (in 2008 everyone was in fear of foreclosure), and Immigration Reform (amnesty) then YES he was pandering to the poor with handouts.
In addition to closing gitmo, changing the way politics is played (seen by some as at least discussing campaign finance reform)

 

To see it was all about handouts and the farcical notion of confiscation and redistribution is just not accurate. There were plenty of reasons to vote for him outside of helping the poor. 
Quote:Sarah Palin is an idiot, she does more damage to the small government mantra then almost anyone else.
Because like one person in government actually believes in small government. The GOP can say it all they wont but they do not actually think it or want it. 
Quote:Yup thats the only thing he ran on. You are better than this.
He did indeed.

 

He called Bush's running the deficit up by $4 trillion in 8 years as unpatriotic when he took out a credit card backed by money borrowed from China and took the deficit from $5 to $9 trillion in 8 years.  I guess it was okay to run it up to more than $18 trillion over the next 5 years using that same China financed credit card. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q

 

He promised the most transparent administration in the history of this nation.  That's worked out pretty well.

 

He said that he would work to reverse the trend to give more power to the executive branch by reversing the trend under the Bush administration to use executive orders and signing statements to either create laws, or to redefine the way they are enforced.

 

He promised to make the Veterans Administration a national leader in healthcare reform.  That's been a stellar success. 

 

He promised the most scandal free, ethical administration ever.  Thank goodness the media has avoided digging into anything.

 

This is just the tip of the iceberg.  He made a lot of promises.
Quote:Why is it class warfare when you do something that hurts the rich, but not class warfare when you do something to hurt the poor?
Because the poor deserve their situations and the rich shall inherit the earth. I think that's how it goes.... 
Quote:Because like one person in government actually believes in small government. The GOP can say it all they wont but they do not actually think it or want it. 
Not the current brand of the GOP.  There's little to differentiate the leadership of either party or the positions they take other than one has a heavier foot on the gas pedal when it comes to driving this country into a debt crisis that collapses the economy. 
Quote:Because the poor deserve their situations and the rich shall inherit the earth. I think that's how it goes.... 
Interesting.  So, nobody who is wealthy earned it in your mind?  Really?
Quote:He did indeed.

 

He called Bush's running the deficit up by $4 trillion in 8 years as unpatriotic when he took out a credit card backed by money borrowed from China and took the deficit from $5 to $9 trillion in 8 years.  I guess it was okay to run it up to more than $18 trillion over the next 5 years using that same China financed credit card. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q

 

He promised the most transparent administration in the history of this nation.  That's worked out pretty well.

 

He said that he would work to reverse the trend to give more power to the executive branch by reversing the trend under the Bush administration to use executive orders and signing statements to either create laws, or to redefine the way they are enforced.

 

He promised to make the Veterans Administration a national leader in healthcare reform.  That's been a stellar success. 

 

He promised the most scandal free, ethical administration ever.  Thank goodness the media has avoided digging into anything.

 

This is just the tip of the iceberg.  He made a lot of promises.
Yes you hate the guy. So very much. This is nothing new. 

 

Many people, including myself, are disappointed he did next to nothing in regards to the things he ran on. What's your point? You still don't like him and what, you think people that are disappointed will start to hate him like you? People thought he might be different than the average guy running for the office. Clearly people were wrong. You guys can enjoy being smug about him not being different all you want but that does not change that people actually thought he would bring change and voted for him for that reason.
Quote:Not the current brand of the GOP.  There's little to differentiate the leadership of either party or the positions they take other than one has a heavier foot on the gas pedal when it comes to driving this country into a debt crisis that collapses the economy. 
And the other will burn the gas through war and aggressive conflicts. 
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