Quote:cook can actually stay on the field, and who we should choose but
let's be honest, they're gonna select a punter or kicker in the first round.. that would only make sense
I can understand cases for both guys but let's not pretend Cook is the perfect model of health either.
If we have a top 10 oline why would we need a top 5 pick RB on top of that? Ivory and Yeldon, or a later draftee, would be just fine if we greatly improve the oline.
Quote:If we have a top 10 oline why would we need a top 5 pick RB on top of that? Ivory and Yeldon, or a later draftee, would be just fine if we greatly improve the oline.
Truth ^
Fournette would hit a lot of home-runs behind such a line though.
Quote:If we have a top 10 oline why would we need a top 5 pick RB on top of that? Ivory and Yeldon, or a later draftee, would be just fine if we greatly improve the oline.
Because Fournette is special and those guys are worth the risk.
Quote:If we have a top 10 oline why would we need a top 5 pick RB on top of that? Ivory and Yeldon, or a later draftee, would be just fine if we greatly improve the oline.
Yeah, Dallas was foolish to draft Elliott last year.
Oh, wait...
Quote:Yeah, Dallas was foolish to draft Elliott last year.
Oh, wait...
They were. Their YPC went from an already top 5 in the NFL 4.6 to a whopping 4.8. Sticking with McFadden and drafting Ramsey would have been far better for them.
Lucky for us they goofed.
Quote:They were. Their YPC went from an already top 5 in the NFL 4.6 to a whopping 4.8. Sticking with McFadden and drafting Ramsey would have been far better for them.
Lucky for us they goofed.
I don't see how they would be a better team by playing a cornerback who was below average for most of the year?
Quote:Because Fournette is special and those guys are worth the risk.
^This
In the video he was likened to Earl Campbell.
Quote:I don't see how they would be a better team by playing a cornerback who was below average for most of the year?
Zeke made that team what it was last year. Dak playing smart helped, but the offense flowed through Zeke.
Quote:Zeke made that team what it was last year. Dak playing smart helped, but the offense flowed through Zeke.
There were other talented running backs in that class too. Jordan Howard had 1300 yds behind a less talented bears line and didnt start the first two games. Just because it worked out for them doesnt mean there werent better alternatives.
I did the reaserch and Cook looks way better than Fournette
Fournette is really good. His measurements are way better than Adrian Peterson and there is room to improve. I think he is better than Elliot and Gurley coming out of college. If we go RB I would prefer Fournette over Cook. We would need the OL for Forunette. With no OL I would pick Cook.
Quote:I did the reaserch and Cook looks way better than Fournette
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Yup one guy on a message board says he did the research, case closed IMO
Cook>Fournette. Case closed
You can have the best oline. And still defenders who like to blitz.
Can bury a rb at the point of attack. Ya think Watt and Clowney will let him build up steam?
One trick ponies dont last long amongst the best defenders.
Case in point. Chris johnson tons of speed and nothing else. Just one of hundreds of examples.
With that being said. Cook is the obvious winner. However we havent seen Ivory with a great line here yet.
Quote:You can have the best oline. And still defenders who like to blitz.
Can bury a rb at the point of attack. Ya think Watt and Clowney will let him build up steam?
One trick ponies dont last long amongst the best defenders.
Case in point. Chris johnson tons of speed and nothing else. Just one of hundreds of examples.
With that being said. Cook is the obvious winner. However we havent seen Ivory with a great line here yet.
I really disagree that fournette is a one trick pony.
Chris Johnson isn't even apples to apples. Johnson's game was predicated on speed. He was faster than everyone. Speed is one thing that goes away rather quickly as you age and when that's the only thing you have separating you from the others, your career is going to be shortened.
Let's not forget Chris Johnson did score around 70 TDS in his time playing even though he's been a ghost for the last 2-3 years.
Anyway fournette is all around very talented. I don't see him having any problems in the NFL. He's a freak show.
Quote:Fournette from what I have seen. Needs some space. If shut down at the point of attack or line or back field. Will he be effective?
What RB is effective if shut down at the point of attack? I think it's absurd to hold that against a RB when all RB's are ineffective in that situation, besides Barry Sanders.
Quote:What RB is effective if shut down at the point of attack? I think it's absurd to hold that against a RB when all RB's are ineffective in that situation, besides Barry Sanders.
Go watch the cut-up of Fournette against Alabama. You'll understand the knock on him.
I'm a fan of the player - but there are many, many examples (besides just Barry Sanders) of guys with
much better elusiveness behind the L.O.S. than Fournette.
Few (possibly none) possess Fournette's very rare combination of speed and power however.
Fournette needs a clean initial lane to launch. It's a knock on him, but one that a team with a good O-Line will not be concerned with.