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1. Alabama 11-1
2. Oregon 11-1
3. TCU 10-1
4. FSU 12-0
5. Ohio St. 11-1
6. Baylor 10-1
7. Arizona 10-2
8. Michigan State 10-2
9. Kansas St 9-2
10. Miss. St. 10-2
Damn...FSU is still fourth? That must sting!
Well FSU moved back didnt they? I think they were 3rd last week. They really arent the 4th best team in the country but just no way you can leave them out. But they are clearly being punished for not being as good as the others.
I'm surprised they left Ohio St at 5. Maybe they are waiting to see what the new QB does next week. If he plays well and they beat Wisconsin they are probably deserving of that. If not, they'll fall and ranking them 5th made no matter. I think they lose.
Would seem surprising to have Baylor leapfrog TCU next week if they have to jump that many spots to get there. Baylor would have to blow out Kansas St while TCU would have to struggle. I'm sure it will cause a lot of debate since Baylor had the head to head. But I think you can make a very reasonable argument that TCU is the better team.
Also with Arizona sitting there at 7th have to think a win over Oregon will put them in prime position. Especially if someone like Ohio St were to lose.
Quote:Well FSU moved back didnt they? I think they were 3rd last week. They really arent the 4th best team in the country but just no way you can leave them out. But they are clearly being punished for not being as good as the others.
I'm surprised they left Ohio St at 5. Maybe they are waiting to see what the new QB does next week. If he plays well and they beat Wisconsin they are probably deserving of that. If not, they'll fall and ranking them 5th made no matter. I think they lose.
Would seem surprising to have Baylor leapfrog TCU next week if they have to jump that many spots to get there. Baylor would have to blow out Kansas St while TCU would have to struggle. I'm sure it will cause a lot of debate since Baylor had the head to head. But I think you can make a very reasonable argument that TCU is the better team.
Also with Arizona sitting there at 7th have to think a win over Oregon will put them in prime position. Especially if someone like Ohio St were to lose.
I think you might be right about them being three.
These rankings have become a joke. I'm not even an FSU fan, but twelve wins is two more wins than ten wins. FSU has won 12 games. TCU has won 10. How can TCU's resume be better? The rankings have become purely subjective now.
Quoting Jeff Long: "I think they are very close to being No. 3. We spent a lot of time in debate on Florida State, and TCU for that matter. Florida State continues to be that undefeated team. But in many of the committee members' eyes, they've struggled in some games against unranked opponents. That has had an impact."
What happened to a win being a win? I strangely miss the BCS rankings.
Quote:Well FSU moved back didnt they? I think they were 3rd last week. They really arent the 4th best team in the country but just no way you can leave them out. But they are clearly being punished for not being as good as the others.
I'm surprised they left Ohio St at 5. Maybe they are waiting to see what the new QB does next week. If he plays well and they beat Wisconsin they are probably deserving of that. If not, they'll fall and ranking them 5th made no matter. I think they lose.
Would seem surprising to have Baylor leapfrog TCU next week if they have to jump that many spots to get there. Baylor would have to blow out Kansas St while TCU would have to struggle. I'm sure it will cause a lot of debate since Baylor had the head to head. But I think you can make a very reasonable argument that TCU is the better team.
Also with Arizona sitting there at 7th have to think a win over Oregon will put them in prime position. Especially if someone like Ohio St were to lose.
Ohio State moved up one spot. TCU was #5 last week. If Ohio State wins and either Alabama, Oregon, or FSU loses, the Buckeyes should get in.
No way does Florida State deserve to be in the top four. I like seeing the Horned Frogs leapfrog the Seminoles, but wonder if there is any scenario that would shut them out of the playoffs.
Quote:These rankings have become a joke. I'm not even an FSU fan, but twelve wins is two more wins than ten wins. FSU has won 12 games. TCU has won 10. How can TCU's resume be better? The rankings have become purely subjective now.
Quoting Jeff Long: "I think they are very close to being No. 3. We spent a lot of time in debate on Florida State, and TCU for that matter. Florida State continues to be that undefeated team. But in many of the committee members' eyes, they've struggled in some games against unranked opponents. That has had an impact."
What happened to a win being a win? I strangely miss the BCS rankings.
The loss column is actually more important because of bye weeks. You can have one team that is 10-1 and another that is 10-2. The 10-1 team would be ranked higher based on the smaller number of losses.
Rankings were also subjective in the stupid BCS formula. The fact that there is more than one Top 25 list proves it. So what's new here?
Quote:The loss column is actually more important because of bye weeks. You can have one team that is 10-1 and another that is 10-2. The 10-1 team would be ranked higher based on the smaller number of losses.
Rankings were also subjective in the stupid BCS formula. The fact that there is more than one Top 25 list proves it. So what's new here?
The fact that FSU will have 13 wins and NO losses compared to 11 wins and 1 loss for TCU tells me all I need to know. TCU's scheduling is just as shoddy as FSU's, but they aren't being penalized for it. They did, however, have more off weeks, played fewer games, and have a loss on their resume. Don't give me this "well they won convincingly" stuff that the committee is feeding us. Their reasoning for ranking the teams changes every week. It's one thing to be subjective; it's another to be arbitrary. The CFP rankings are a beauty contest. At least the computer element of the BCS rankings was objective and didn't penalize teams for winning ugly. What if next year we have a team that has a historically good defense but a middling offense that just barely wins all their games? Will we penalize them for not blowing everyone out?
I understand that what they are trying to do is set up some interesting matchups by putting the two southeastern teams in the Sugar Bowl and the two western teams in the Rose Bowl (assuming these rankings hold and the top 4 win), but the fact remains that it is sending the wrong message.
Quote:The fact that FSU will have 13 wins and NO losses compared to 11 wins and 1 loss for TCU tells me all I need to know. TCU's scheduling is just as shoddy as FSU's, but they aren't being penalized for it. They did, however, have more off weeks, played fewer games, and have a loss on their resume. Don't give me this "well they won convincingly" stuff that the committee is feeding us. Their reasoning for ranking the teams changes every week. It's one thing to be subjective; it's another to be arbitrary. The CFP rankings are a beauty contest. At least the computer element of the BCS rankings was objective and didn't penalize teams for winning ugly. What if next year we have a team that has a historically good defense but a middling offense that just barely wins all their games? Will we penalize them for not blowing everyone out?
I understand that what they are trying to do is set up some interesting matchups by putting the two southeastern teams in the Sugar Bowl and the two western teams in the Rose Bowl (assuming these rankings hold and the top 4 win), but the fact remains that it is sending the wrong message.
I agree they appear to reward some teams for losing well and penalize FSU for winning.
Quote:Unbelievable.
Big 12 Bias.
If I'm FSU, I'd rather be #4 than #3. At #4, you have Alabama in New Orleans and then Oregon in Dallas. At #3, you have to go to Pasadena to play Oregon, then Alabama in Dallas. This assumes TCU is one and done. But, as a Gator, I'd love to see a scenario without FSU in the playoff. Go GT!
To me, it's about TV and money. It's better for television for a Alabama-FSU game. I have to think that somehwere in the back the bowls are saying, "We'd rather have..."
Quote:If I'm FSU, I'd rather be #4 than #3. At #4, you have Alabama in New Orleans and then Oregon in Dallas. At #3, you have to go to Pasadena to play Oregon, then Alabama in Dallas. This assumes TCU is one and done. But, as a Gator, I'd love to see a scenario without FSU in the playoff. Go GT!
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Quote:If I'm FSU, I'd rather be #4 than #3. At #4, you have Alabama in New Orleans and then Oregon in Dallas. At #3, you have to go to Pasadena to play Oregon, then Alabama in Dallas. This assumes TCU is one and done. But, as a Gator, I'd love to see a scenario without FSU in the playoff. Go GT!
This is it exactly. FSU fans should be happy they are #4. Now they have a much shorter trip to root for their team. I'd imagine people would turn up in droves to New Orleans to support the Noles.
It would suck to drop down, but in the bigger picture its better. There is no way Ohio State jumps to 4.
I like the possibility of an FSU v Alabama matchup in the Sugar Bowl. Great for the fans who may be able to drive over to New Orleans instead of heading out to CA.
The committee is constructing logic to do what they want to do after the fact. By the criteria they supposedly had going in, no way should FSU be #4. Ridiculous.
Quote:The committee is constructing logic to do what they want to do after the fact. By the criteria they supposedly had going in, no way should FSU be #4. Ridiculous.
I agree.
Quote:The committee is constructing logic to do what they want to do after the fact. By the criteria they supposedly had going in, no way should FSU be #4. Ridiculous.
Their criteria seems to change from week to week and team to team.
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