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Using Matt Miller as of 2/21/17

R1p4: RB. Leonard Fournette

R2p3: CB. Tre'Davious White

R3p4: TE. Evan Engram

R4p3: C . Pat Eflin

R5p4: OT. Taylor Motor

R6p3: WR. Ardarious Stewart

R7p4: FB. Freddie Stevenson

R7p22: S. Tony Cooner

<div>First one I've done since the first year it was created, still pretty silly. 
 
4: R1P4
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<div>CB MARSHON LATTIMORE
OHIO STATE
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35: R2P3

<div>EDGE TAKKARIST MCKINLEY
UCLA
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68: R3P4

<div>S OBI MELIFONWU
UCONN
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110: R4P3

<div>C PAT ELFLEIN
OHIO STATE
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148: R5P4

<div>OT TAYLOR MOTON
WESTERN MICHIGAN
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187: R6P3

<div>G NICO SIRAGUSA
SAN DIEGO STATE
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222: R7P4

<div>EDGE EJUAN PRICE
PITT
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240: R7P22

<div>RB DE'VEON SMITH
MICHIGAN
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<div>First one I've done since the first year it was created, still pretty silly. 
 
4: R1P4
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<div>CB MARSHON LATTIMORE
OHIO STATE
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35: R2P3

<div>EDGE TAKKARIST MCKINLEY
UCLA
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68: R3P4

<div>S OBI MELIFONWU
UCONN
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110: R4P3

<div>C PAT ELFLEIN
OHIO STATE
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148: R5P4

<div>OT TAYLOR MOTON
WESTERN MICHIGAN
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187: R6P3

<div>G NICO SIRAGUSA
SAN DIEGO STATE
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222: R7P4

<div>EDGE EJUAN PRICE
PITT
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240: R7P22

<div>RB DE'VEON SMITH
MICHIGAN
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It surprises me that Elflein consistently is available in the 3rd or 4th rounds in these Fanspeak mock drafts. I thought he was more highly regarded. He can play both guard and center and seems like he could be a day 1 starter with the versatility the Jaguars could use.

Tak in the second would be so awesome.

Just did this one:


4: R1P4

DL JONATHAN ALLEN

ALABAMA


35: R2P3

OT RYAN RAMCZYK

WISCONSIN


68: R3P4

OT ANTONIO GARCIA

TROY


110: R4P3

EDGE DEMARCUS WALKER

FLORIDA STATE


148: R5P4

RB JOE MIXON

OKLAHOMA


187: R6P3

LB BEN BOULWARE

CLEMSON


222: R7P4

FB FREDDIE STEVENSON

FLORIDA STATE


240: R7P22

EDGE JACOB PUGH

FLORIDA STATE

Quote:It surprises me that Elflein consistently is available in the 3rd or 4th rounds in these Fanspeak mock drafts. I thought he was more highly regarded. He can play both guard and center and seems like he could be a day 1 starter with the versatility the Jaguars could use.

 

 

He's not gonna be there that late. Elflein is the best Center to enter the draft since Travis Fredrick. Teams like Cincinnati, Cleveland, Washington and New England could really use a Center of his talents and the Jets just cut Nick Mangold today, so they might be in the market as well. I can't see him getting passed the Pats in round 2. He seems like a Belichek kinda guy. 

Quote:He's not gonna be there that late. Elflein is the best Center to enter the draft since Travis Fredrick. Teams like Cincinnati, Cleveland, Washington and New England could really use a Center of his talents and the Jets just cut Nick Mangold today, so they might be in the market as well. I can't see him getting passed the Pats in round 2. He seems like a Belichek kinda guy.

Ryan Kelly last year was a better center coming out than Elfein.

Quote:Just did this one:


4: R1P4

DL JONATHAN ALLEN

ALABAMA


35: R2P3

OT RYAN RAMCZYK

WISCONSIN


68: R3P4

OT ANTONIO GARCIA

TROY


110: R4P3

EDGE DEMARCUS WALKER

FLORIDA STATE


148: R5P4

RB JOE MIXON

OKLAHOMA


187: R6P3

LB BEN BOULWARE

CLEMSON


222: R7P4

FB FREDDIE STEVENSON

FLORIDA STATE


240: R7P22

EDGE JACOB PUGH

FLORIDA STATE

This draft would actually wind up being really good but so many things would need to fall in place right for it to happen.

Quote:Just did this one:


4: R1P4

DL JONATHAN ALLEN

ALABAMA


35: R2P3

OT RYAN RAMCZYK

WISCONSIN


68: R3P4

OT ANTONIO GARCIA

TROY


110: R4P3

EDGE DEMARCUS WALKER

FLORIDA STATE


148: R5P4

RB JOE MIXON

OKLAHOMA


187: R6P3

LB BEN BOULWARE

CLEMSON


222: R7P4

FB FREDDIE STEVENSON

FLORIDA STATE


240: R7P22

EDGE JACOB PUGH

FLORIDA STATE

Where do I sign?

Round-1 - Jon Allen Dline Alabama


Round-2 - Taylor Moton OT/G Western Michigan


Round-3 - Samaje Perine RB Oklahoma


Round-4 - Josh Jones SS N.C. State


Round-5 - Michael Roberts TE Toledo


Round-6 - Freddie Stevenson FB FSU

Quote:Ryan Kelly last year was a better center coming out than Elfein.

 

 

No. Not even close.

Quote:No. Not even close.

Kelly was so good he was drafted #18. Elfein won't sniff that. I'm starting to question how much of these guys you have actually watched.

Quote:Kelly was so good he was drafted #18. Elfein won't sniff that. I'm starting to question how much of these guys you have actually watched.

 

 

Just because Kelly might be drafted higher, doesn't mean he'll be a better pro. If that was the case, Jared Goff would be better than Tom Brady. Elflein may not get drafted as high, but will be a better pro. Mark it down.

Quote:Just because Kelly might be drafted higher, doesn't mean he'll be a better pro. If that was the case, Jared Goff would be better than Tom Brady. Elflein may not get drafted as high, but will be a better pro. Mark it down.

No that's just an example of how the league views them as center prospects in two really strong drafts. The on field play in college is what shows it.

Quote:This draft would actually wind up being really good but so many things would need to fall in place right for it to happen.

 

Agreed. I was surprised that Demarcus Walker and Joe Mixon were even on the board still in RD4 & RD5. Seems more likely Walker goes somewhere in day two at the minimum and shouldn't make it out of RD3. And Mixon despite all of the off the field issues I think could also be gone by RD4.

 

Ramyzck in RD2 would be huge but I think everywhere I've looked he's gone by the 20th pick. And Antonio Garcia in RD3 at OT might be a stretch since I am starting to see him creep up as the No.1 or No.2 rated OT of his class. 

 

Ben Boulware in RD6 didn't surprise me though. He's more of an effort guy and makes up for his lack of athletic ability. He'll be a solid ILB in maybe an established 3 - 4 defensive scheme where he only has to focus on sniffing out the run. That alone could shoot his value up for some teams around RD3 or RD4. I'd hate him to see him playing in a stout defense like Pittsburgh or for the tinhorns in houston for sure though. 

Quote:No that's just an example of how the league views them as center prospects in two really strong drafts. The on field play in college is what shows it.

 

 

Then some people aren't paying attention. I live in Ohio and I watched every OSU game last year. It's the only team in college that I've seen all of their games and Elflein is the most well rounded and pro ready Center I've seen since Fredrick. He's an excellent run blocker, a very good pass protector and a great leader. I see no flaws in his game. Personally, I view Center as the 2nd most important position on the O-Line and Elflein has everything I'm looking for. 

Here's one that assumes signing a FA safety:

 

Can't complain about this one:

 


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<div>DL JONATHAN ALLEN
ALABAMA
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<div style="font-size:26px;">2: R2P3

<div>RB LEONARD FOURNETTE
LSU
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<div>S JUSTIN EVANS
TEXAS A&M
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<div style="font-size:26px;">4: R4P3
 

<div>C ETHAN POCIC
LSU
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<div style="font-size:26px;">5: R5P4
 

<div>CB CORN ELDER
MIAMI
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<div style="font-size:26px;">6: R6P3
 

<div>OT WILL HOLDEN
VANDERBILT
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<div style="font-size:26px;">7: R7P4
 

<div>TE BLAKE JARWIN
OKLAHOMA STATE
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Can't complain about this one:

 

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<div>DL JONATHAN ALLEN
ALABAMA
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<div style="font-size:26px;">2: R2P3

<div>RB LEONARD FOURNETTE
LSU
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<div>S JUSTIN EVANS
TEXAS A&M
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<div>C ETHAN POCIC
LSU
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<div>CB CORN ELDER
MIAMI
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<div style="font-size:26px;">6: R6P3
 

<div>OT WILL HOLDEN
VANDERBILT
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<div style="font-size:26px;">7: R7P4
 

<div>TE BLAKE JARWIN
OKLAHOMA STATE
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Well... if we're posting ones that aren't realistic..

 


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<div>DL JONATHAN ALLEN
ALABAMA
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<div style="font-size:26px;">35: R2P3
 

<div>S MALIK HOOKER
OHIO STATE
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<div style="font-size:26px;">68: R3P4
 

<div>C PAT ELFLEIN
OHIO STATE
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<div style="font-size:26px;">110: R4P3
 

<div>TE JAKE BUTT
MICHIGAN
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<div style="font-size:26px;">148: R5P4
 

<div>RB JAMES CONNER
PITTSBURGH
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<div style="font-size:26px;">187: R6P3
 

<div>EDGE JOSH CARRAWAY
TCU
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<div style="font-size:26px;">222: R7P4
 

<div>CB JEREMY CUTRER
MIDDLE TENNESSEE
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My latest:

 

1 - 4: Solomon Thomas, DL

2 - 3: Adoree' Jackson, CB/Returner

3 - 4: Obi Melifonwu, S

4 - 3: Jake Butt, TE

5 - 4: Isaac Asiata, G

6 - 3: Jalen Reeves-Maybin, LB

7 - 4: Tarean Folston, RB

 

Why I like it. I got a lot of versatility at the top of the draft and strengthened the strength. I dipped into the TE pool and got a good talent.

 

Why I hate it. I didn't go RB until the Seventh and that is pretty much a throwaway guy. Lamp was staring at me in Round Two, but I took Jackson over him. My Tight End pick probably won't even play this season.