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Gus preaches about players playing with out anxiety. He isn't going to cut someone who couldn't get into the end zone because then Gus would think everyone else would be playing anxious.

Quote:Everyone seems to have one guy they want to cut. But really, is there some guy out there on the street who is better than the guy you want to cut? How does it improve the team to cut a player if there isn't a replacement waiting in the wings who is better?

Yea i know a few brothers in my neighborhood better then Gerhart! You get rid of dead weight asap! Him and Henne! Lol

It was almost like someone drew a line in the sand when it comes to Gerhart. Like, make that bum run that friggin play until he gets it in or I'm gonna fire his [BLEEP]. He is not good enough to be on an NFL roster. He has the vision of a blind man, the apparent leg strength of a chicken. Damn! dude is bad.

The really scary part is someone thought Beadles and Gerhart were FA hires who deserved millions of dollars and were the final missing pieces of the puzzle. So it starts from the top down. There are issues.

 

The bottom line is we were playing a team who has an extremely bad college QB, this QB basically gave us the game in the first half.

Our coaches did everything they could to give it back. Gerhart is just the most glaring problem that jumps out at

everyone. But  It goes deeper than that. We have some talent, the men who employ that talent seem completely lost.

 

On the other hand, on the other side of the field, the bills have coaches and back office personnel who thought Manuel could play in the NFL.

There may be an across the board lack of talent in the league among coaches and personnel departments. Only a few teams have capable coaching and GM's. Those good teams win every year, everyone else seems doomed to a first round slaughter even if they make the playoffs.

Quote:It was almost like someone drew a line in the sand when it comes to Gerhart. Like, make that bum run that friggin play until he gets it in or I'm gonna fire his [BLEEP]. He is not good enough to be on an NFL roster. He has the vision of a blind man, the apparent leg strength of a chicken. Damn! dude is bad.

 

I think your more right than wrong here but thats tinfoil hat stuff.

 

I really do think we could find a power back on the street that would do better than Toby at the moment. The only thing that tells me not to cut him is the dead money buttt a 3 million dollar message to the team wouldn't be bad either. #Accountability. 

So we have one of the top 3 TD catching Tight ends in the game and a QB who is best when rolling out and yet we don't even attempt a play action? Or even a sneak? Or even Yeldon who had been gaining yards on them?

 

What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result.

Quote:So we have one of the top 3 TD catching Tight ends in the game and a QB who is best when rolling out and yet we don't even attempt a play action? Or even a sneak? Or even Yeldon who had been gaining yards on them?

 

What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result.

I think we will see more Bortles saying screw Olson, I'm audibling and changing the play at the LOS.

Quote:Everyone seems to have one guy they want  to cut.   But really, is there some guy out there on the street who is better than the guy you want to cut?   How does it improve the team to cut a player if there isn't a replacement waiting in the wings who is better?  

Even the washed up remains of MJD could have gotten that 1 yard...

What's up with Drob? I didn't see him get much action. Still bringin him along slowly I assume?

 

I don't see how we run Toby 4x up the middle... the last one, there was room to bounce outside, but that isn't his game... we should have used Yeldon at least once, or tried a PA pass or something if we knew we were gonna go for it.

 

 

 

But me... I said to hell with what the announcer thought (something along the lines of a 1-5 team needs to go for it here [with a pretty good lead]) I would take the 3 and take a 3 score lead....

It wasn't complicated. On the 3rd down have one of the tight ends fake going inside for a block, he probably would have been all alone for a pass. Bortles is the man right? Can he make a 3 yard pitch? Yes I believe he can. There are good teams and they generally have coaches who can call a game. We need a grass eater not afraid to take a small risk. That series was JDR after 2 bottles of wine. So predictable. After our coaches watched the bills completely sell out for the run on both 1st and 2nd downs, the 3rd down call should have been automatic. Pass it.

Yeldon's craftiness would have gotten in the endzone AT LEAST on one of those 4 plays. That was the worst 4 plays of the season.

Quote:Yeldon's craftiness would have gotten in the endzone AT LEAST on one of those 4 plays. That was the worst 4 plays of the season.

the last try....

 

Toby gives a little one hop to the right to find some room, but then just mushes his face into the pile.

 

I think TJ one hops and shoots toward the pylon, stiff arming his way or reaching in...

 

but....

Olson should take more blame here than Gerhart.  After he runs it up the gut twice wouldn't you think you should try something else?  And after the 3rd time why in the heck would you do it a 4th time?  Gerhart can't magically make himself good in that time frame, but our coach can call another play.  Seriously, that was the worst coaching I think I've seen this year and that's saying something.

Was I drunk or did I actually see AluAlu run the ball once?

Quote:Was I drunk or did I actually see AluAlu run the ball once?

yeah...... I think they tried some trickery there that looked foolish.

 

I don't mind Alualu in at FB to block.

but if he had fumbled or something like that... maaaaaaaaaan

Quote:yeah...... I think they tried some trickery there that looked foolish.

 

I don't mind Alualu in at FB to block.

but if he had fumbled or something like that... maaaaaaaaaan

 

Man, isn't the AluAlu experiment just about over? When you are using your former 1st rounder as a gimmick guy, it's time to move on.

Quote:Olson should take more blame here than Gerhart.  After he runs it up the gut twice wouldn't you think you should try something else?  And after the 3rd time why in the heck would you do it a 4th time?  Gerhart can't magically make himself good in that time frame, but our coach can call another play.  Seriously, that was the worst coaching I think I've seen this year and that's saying something.

but Gerhart on 2 runs decided to hit the back of the oline and then just run in place.

on the last try he has to try to bounce it outside, even if that isn't really his game.

 

but yes. Coaches all around should have made better calls than Toby up the gut 4x.

I'm OK with it twice, but then you have to give it to Yeldon or put it on BB5 to make a nice PA play to JT

Quote:Man, isn't the AluAlu experiment just about over? When you are using your former 1st rounder as a gimmick guy, it's time to move on.

He got a sack yesterday...

 

I don't get the hate... he's a rotational player on the Dline. He isn't even being paid like a top 10 pick or anything.....

Quote:but Gerhart on 2 runs decided to hit the back of the oline and then just run in place.

on the last try he has to try to bounce it outside, even if that isn't really his game.

 

but yes. Coaches all around should have made better calls than Toby up the gut 4x.

I'm OK with it twice, but then you have to give it to Yeldon or put it on BB5 to make a nice PA play to JT

Doing it twice is mehhhh but I'm not going to pull out the pitchforks and torches.  Gerhart hasn't shown he can do much so I don't think I'd give it to him even once, but obviously easy to say in hindsight.  Either way, I think we agree that 4x with Toby was pretty bad.  Not sure I can think of a worse play call unless it was what the colts did on that punt formation.

Quote:Man, isn't the AluAlu experiment just about over? When you are using your former 1st rounder as a gimmick guy, it's time to move on.

He's actually blocked very well from the FB position. Even when he ran the ball and got stuffed, he made sure to protect the football. and we threw the ball to him that got a first down (something guys like Lewis and Jacobs have failed to do at times). Tyson wasn't the problem with the failed short yardage runs. If you want to be a power running team, you need stalwarts inside. Of our three interior guys, only Cann is what I'd call a "road grader". Beadles is finesse, and Wiz isn't the strongest center out there.