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Quote:I do think the league is more concerned about protecting their image rather than the players.

Therein lies the problem.

I think it is important to have some form of disciplinary action.

Quote:Someone has to be punking us because there's no way Florio wrote that article.

 

Seriously, this article is spot on.  The policy is garbage.  When a player needs help the most, the league severs all contact and leaves them on their own.  It's a stupid policy.

I would seriously doubt that they have left JB to deal with this on his own. I would be willing to bet the exact opposite is true. I would think that they have recommended and offered JB some of the best options in the world that exist for someone requiring the help that he does. On top of that they have publicly acknowledged that he is still welcome and will have a job if he is reinstated.

The rest is on him, and he does not appear to be fulfilling his end of the deal.

 

 To your point FBT of the leagues drug policy, do you feel the same about the entire drug free workplace requirements that are in place for other occupations as well? Personally I believe what a person does on their own time is their business as long as it does not hinder their performance at work so in that regard the leagues policy is garbage. The fact that he is required to 100% abstain from alcohol completely is ludicrous. There are civil laws in place to deal with perpetual law breakers as it pertains to alcohol. Unfortunately for JB he is relegated to the rules set by and agreed to by the league and his own union but I suppose the union is a farce as well as there is not another choice of employers for their members. Conform or be gone I reckon.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...reinstated

 

The story has made its rounds. I think the Jags taking this approach is absolutely the best move possible. Hope for the best and plan for the worst. Like or not, Blackmon is still the best receiver on this team the moment he gets reinstated unless Lee or Robinson prove to me otherwise. He isn't even making a whole lot of money either so why not keep a diamond level player through his rookie contract?

 

Big thumbs up on Caldwell/Kahn for their decision making regarding blackmon.

 

Edit: Cecil Shorts better pray blackmon stays down otherwise he becomes easy trade bait if he isn't already.

Quote:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...reinstated

 

The story has made its rounds. I think the Jags taking this approach is absolutely the best move possible. Hope for the best and plan for the worst. Like or not, Blackmon is still the best receiver on this team the moment he gets reinstated unless Lee or Robinson prove to me otherwise. He isn't even making a whole lot of money either so why not keep a diamond level player through his rookie contract?

 

Big thumbs up on Caldwell/Kahn for their decision making regarding blackmon.

 

Edit: Cecil Shorts better pray blackmon stays down otherwise he becomes easy trade bait if he isn't already.

 

1. why would cecil pray blackmon stays down? he probably wants the best for blackmon, and if he gets traded he might wind up in a better situation like on the pats or something....

 

2. i also dont agree that a WR who hasnt played in forever, who is 1 strike away from being done, makes anyone expendable. putting your money on someone so close to the door doesnt make much sense. 

Quote:1. why would cecil pray blackmon stays down? he probably wants the best for blackmon, and if he gets traded he might wind up in a better situation like on the pats or something....

 

2. i also dont agree that a WR who hasnt played in forever, who is 1 strike away from being done, makes anyone expendable. putting your money on someone so close to the door doesnt make much sense. 

 

Cecil is the definition of a decent player that is worthy of an NFL roster spot but not worthy of being the cornerstone of your WR corps. As such, With his value inflated due to being THE guy at the WR spot, You deal him before hes brought back down to his actual value. IMO, Its the difference between a 2nd/3rd and a 4th/5th. How does blackmon make him more "tradeable"? Because if Blackmon makes the unlikely transformation back into an NFL player, Hes going to dominate. Robinson/Lee I suspect will make it very hard for shorts to see the field.

 

Also, I stand corrected on your 1st point. Him leaving Jacksonville is probably his best bet short-term anyways.

Quote:I think it is important to have some form of disciplinary action.

 

Agreed. 

 

But releasing him, so another team gets him for free isn't disciplinary action, it would just be bad (re: stupid) business on the Jags part. 

Quote:If true that suggests to me the current Jags brass is smart.   :thumbsup:

 

No reason that they should be releasing Blackmon, at all at that point. 

 

The only and I mean only situation that Blackmon should be released by the Jags is if he gets suspended by the NFL for life.

To This, I Agree


NH3...

Quote:Agreed. 

 

But releasing him, so another team gets him for free isn't disciplinary action, it would just be bad (re: stupid) business on the Jags part.

WOW!


Again I Agree...


NH3...

Quote:Cecil is the definition of a decent player that is worthy of an NFL roster spot but not worthy of being the cornerstone of your WR corps. As such, With his value inflated due to being THE guy at the WR spot, You deal him before hes brought back down to his actual value. IMO, Its the difference between a 2nd/3rd and a 4th/5th. How does blackmon make him more "tradeable"? Because if Blackmon makes the unlikely transformation back into an NFL player, Hes going to dominate. Robinson/Lee I suspect will make it very hard for shorts to see the field.

 

Also, I stand corrected on your 1st point. Him leaving Jacksonville is probably his best bet short-term anyways.

CSIII Not A Jaguar?


I hope Not...


NH3...

Quote:Agreed.


But releasing him, so another team gets him for free isn't disciplinary action, it would just be bad (re: stupid) business on the Jags part.

This.


You can discipline him by not playing him or by making him a backup or whatever until he "earns" his spot.


Releasing him would be terribly dumb.

Quote:This.


You can discipline him by not playing him or by making him a backup or whatever until he "earns" his spot.


Releasing him would be terribly dumb.

 

Yup.  If he makes it back to the league, you want it to be in teal and black.  If he can make it back, you welcome him with open arms and then make him earn his way into playing time. 

I wonder if he's doing what's necessary to keep in football shape or has he just given up and moved on.

 

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Quote:I wonder if he's doing what's necessary to keep in football shape or has he just given up and moved on.

 

#33

 

I'd be flat out stunned if he has given up to the point where he'd become a flabby couch potato, if thats what you're asking....

Quote:I'd be flat out stunned if he has given up to the point where he'd become a flabby couch potato, if thats what you're asking....

 

I have so many questions......

 

1.  couch potato?

2.  ripping bong swats with jack daniels as the filter medium?

3.  blowing up the Plainview High School weight room and track and is lethally ripped?

4.  working with a private trainer and increasing speed and quickness?

5.  enrolled in truck driving school and studying to acquire his Class A CDL?

 

All that is left to do is speculate and perhaps create conspiracy theories, huh?

 

#33

Quote:Therein lies the problem.

it just seems funny the difference in disipline between players and owners.

Quote:I'd be flat out stunned if he has given up to the point where he'd become a flabby couch potato, if thats what you're asking....

So would I. This is a guy that came into the league signing endorsement deals.

 

People seem to have forgotten the hype surrounding Blackmon when he entered the draft. From TV spots with Michael Irvin to being featured in video game commercials it's unusual for the Jags to land a player like that.

 

You just don't throw that all away and give up.

Quote:I'd be flat out stunned if he has given up to the point where he'd become a flabby couch potato, if thats what you're asking....

 

No matter what he's doing, I doubt he's maintaining his conditioning to the level that would be expected from an NFL player.  Especially if he's been involved in any sort of rehab.

 

I don't think he'd completely abandon his training regimen, but it won't be nearly as rigorous as it needs to be for him to get on the field. 

Quote:So would I. This is a guy that came into the league signing endorsement deals.

 

People seem to have forgotten the hype surrounding Blackmon when he entered the draft. From TV spots with Michael Irvin to being featured in video game commercials it's unusual for the Jags to land a player like that.

 

You just don't throw that all away and give up.

 

That's what we hope will be the case.  But, as is the case with addiction, you just don't know how someone is going to deal with that.  Some people will throw everything away in life for the sake of the next drink or fix.   Hopefully that's not the case here.

Tragedy was accurate.