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I think Gerhart will be fine. I still expect to grab a back like Bishop Sankey in the round 4 range. There will be a lot of value at that position early in day 3.

Quote:I don't think he is an every down back. 
This is how I feel. I like Gerhart I just dont think hes an everydown RB. We need another RB to pair with Gerhart.
I still think Robinson makes an impact this year.. He can't really do worse.
Quote:This is how I feel. I like Gerhart I just dont think hes an everydown RB. We need another RB to pair with Gerhart.
You have no reason to think he can't handle the load, he's never been given the oppurtunity because of Adrian Peterson. 
I've seen MJD and Fred Taylor on this team for many years. It'll take a lot to shock me lol.

I think with as excited as you're getting... you're going to wind up disappointed next year.

Quote:I still think Robinson makes an impact this year.. He can't really do worse.
This. He can leap frog Todman. Going off skill and what he could become. Not as high on Todman as everyone else is. Just think. Gerhart, Mason & D Rob

 

Quote:You have no reason to think he can't handle the load, he's never been given the oppurtunity because of Adrian Peterson. 
True. Time will tell and I hope you are right. For now Im not expecting much. l would like to see another good RB added. Draft or FA. 
Quote:You have no reason to think he can't handle the load, he's never been given the oppurtunity because of Adrian Peterson. 
 

I have a lot of reasons to think he won't be an every down back. 

1) He's white.  That already has him going against all odds.

2) He runs upright

3) We don't have a line to open holes like the Vikes (whose opponents were beaten down by AP)

 

Perhaps you don't like #1 above but it's true.  Name me a white RB that was productive that carried the load for 3+ years in a row.  Once you name that RB, let me know if you would be satisfied with Gerhart producing those numbers.

 

best 3 consecutive years

Allstott --> 3 years  665 - 846 - 949 yards

Hillis -> 1,177 -- 587 -  309 yards

Quote:I have a lot of reasons to think he won't be an every down back. 

1) He's white.  That already has him going against all odds.

2) He runs upright

3) We don't have a line to open holes like the Vikes (whose opponents were beaten down by AP)

 

Perhaps you don't like #1 above but it's true.  Name me a white RB that was productive that carried the load for 3+ years in a row.  Once you name that RB, let me know if you would be satisfied with Gerhart producing those numbers.
 

I'd gladly take John Riggins last three years.  All as a Runningback.  His last year not so much, but the two previous years?  24 and 14 Rushing touchdowns.  1347 and 1239 yards.  8 Touchdowns in that final year is nice too.  
Quote:I have a lot of reasons to think he won't be an every down back. 

1) He's white.  That already has him going against all odds.

2) He runs upright

3) We don't have a line to open holes like the Vikes (whose opponents were beaten down by AP)

 

Perhaps you don't like #1 above but it's true.  Name me a white RB that was productive that carried the load for 3+ years in a row.  Once you name that RB, let me know if you would be satisfied with Gerhart producing those numbers.

 

best 3 consecutive years

Allstott --> 3 years  665 - 846 - 949 yards

Hillis -> 1,177 -- 587 -  309 yards

 
I agree with the bolded. Our Oline is a work in progress. See last year. And seeing how its basickly the same line and Chad Henne is still our QB i wouldnt expect huge numbers from him. 
Quote:I agree with the bolded. Our Oline is a work in progress. See last year. And seeing how its basickly the same line and Chad Henne is still our QB i wouldnt expect huge numbers from him. 
 

Our line is basically the same as last year?
Quote:I'd gladly take John Riggins last three years.  All as a Runningback.  His last year not so much, but the two previous years?  24 and 14 Rushing touchdowns.  1347 and 1239 yards.  8 Touchdowns in that final year is nice too.  
 

HA !!  Yes, you had to go back 25 years and put the white RB that played behind arguably the best offensive line in the history of the NFL.  (Bostic, Grimm, Jacoby, May, Starke)  THE HOGS !!
Quote:Our line is basically the same as last year?
 

Apparently, our OLine is equivalent to the Redskins HOGS since Gerhart is going to be the next Riggins.
Quote:I agree with the bolded. Our Oline is a work in progress. See last year. And seeing how its basickly the same line and Chad Henne is still our QB i wouldnt expect huge numbers from him. 
 

But you don't agree with the fact that is substantiated by historical data ?   Nobody likes the political incorrectness of the subject matter but the odds are stacked against him.   Trust me, I'm rooting for him.  I'd love for him to be the next Hillis with a lot longer longevity but it's gonna be extremely hard.
Quote:HA !!  Yes, you had to go back 25 years and put the white RB that played behind arguably the best offensive line in the history of the NFL.  (Bostic, Grimm, Jacoby, May, Starke)  THE HOGS !!

HA !! I still named someone when you implied that it couldn't be done.  
Quote:HA !! I still named someone when you implied that it couldn't be done.  
 

YOU DID GET ME ON THAT ONE !!!   That's was good.
Quote:Apparently, our OLine is equivalent to the Redskins HOGS since Gerhart is going to be the next Riggins.
 

 

A point was made, I made a counterpoint, then you flew to Pluto to do some look at me I'm TO doing situps in my driveway. 
Quote:Novelty. Good for a year. He'll get beaten down like Hillis. You can't run upright and be an every down back.
 

I don't know about "novelty"...but I do agree that his upright style is really going to leave him at a greater risk of injury. I would like to also add someone like a Bryce Brown as the RB2, which would be great insurance as well as being a pretty good playmaker from the position himself
Quote:I don't know about "novelty"...but I do agree that his upright style is really going to leave him at a greater risk of injury. I would like to also add someone like a Bryce Brown as the RB2, which would be great insurance as well as being a pretty good playmaker from the position himself
 

Think he'll be trade bait or cut given the signing of Sproles?
Quote:Think he'll be trade bait or cut given the signing of Sproles?
 

I think he could be had with any one of our three 5th rounders. 

 

The Eagles won't keep 4 RB on the active roster, and Polk is going nowhere as he was drafted by Kelly last year. 

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