03-03-2014, 03:46 PM
03-03-2014, 03:53 PM
Quote:The monkey doesn't buy ANY reasoning. Fanboys will be fanboysOr the Teddy fans can't take the criticism of their guy. Since 2009 (and that's only because that's as far back as I can find stats) The best QBs drafted are the the ones with the highest scoring efficiency....
You guys just can't take the fact that Manziel ranks higher than Teddy in that regard, though both rate much lower than guys like Luck, Wilson, etc
03-03-2014, 04:18 PM
My eyes tell me that one qb plays in a pro style offense and can make reads and audible like a pro....and one qb plays shotgun only....runs around until he can chuck up a jump ball and pray his wr bails him out.
Eye test prevails over your cherry picked stats.
Eye test prevails over your cherry picked stats.
03-03-2014, 04:27 PM
Quote:My eyes tell me that one qb plays in a pro style offense and can make reads and audible like a pro....and one qb plays shotgun only....runs around until he can chuck up a jump ball and pray his wr bails him out.I like how you call these stats "cherry picked".....when the plays you re talking about don't happen a lot with Manziel (cherry picked from a couple of highlights)...oh btw TB has plays like that as well. Sometimes great QBs know their guy will win those balls if they just get the ball around them.
Eye test prevails over your cherry picked stats.
03-03-2014, 04:38 PM
I've seen TB throw guys open...and make back shoulder throws....but have never seen him do anything like the chuck n duck Johnny calls qbing
03-03-2014, 04:41 PM
Quote:I like how you call these stats "cherry picked".....when the plays you re talking about don't happen a lot with Manziel (cherry picked from a couple of highlights)...oh btw TB has plays like that as well. Sometimes great QBs know their guy will win those balls if they just get the ball around them.Chuck n Jive is your flavor, unfortunately that only works when the qb chucking and jiving has a rpg attached to his arm
03-03-2014, 04:42 PM
I personally like field generals like 95% of the HOF qbs
Bridgewater is a Field General
Don't need the Dueler
Bridgewater is a Field General
Don't need the Dueler
03-03-2014, 05:03 PM
Quote:I personally like field generals like 95% of the HOF qbs
Bridgewater is a Field General
Don't need the Dueler
I prefer QBs who consistently make plays and don't give away 20 point leads....
Manziel is a playmaker
Don't need the chocker
03-03-2014, 05:07 PM
Quote:I prefer QBs who consistently make plays and don't give away 20 point leads....
Manziel is a playmaker
Don't need the chocker
Really? By your reasoning, Manziel choked in the first half of the Alabama game and gave away the game since it was too many points to come back from. And if you're referring to the UCF game, Louisville's defense was playing against the other of the "top" QB's. His defense lost that game.
03-03-2014, 05:15 PM
Quote:I prefer QBs who consistently make plays and don't give away 20 point leads....Qbs in the NFL are rarely "playmakers", their job is get the ball to the playmakers...
Manziel is a playmaker
Don't need the chocker
Just like a field general directing his army
I will take one Teddy Bridgewater please
03-03-2014, 05:49 PM
Quote:The more points you are able to put up on a team in college football the better your ranking could be. So even though most of their games were blowouts, at the end of the day they still ran a similar amount of plays and Johnny put up more points. Sorry I don't buy your "conservative" reasoning. Why would you need to be conservative in a blowout???
To keep the other team from coming back....
03-03-2014, 05:53 PM
Quote:To keep the other team from coming back....
The fact you had to tell Greece that makes me wonder how long he has been watching American football. Only a couple months it seems.
03-03-2014, 06:11 PM
Quote:Or the Teddy fans can't take the criticism of their guy. Since 2009 (and that's only because that's as far back as I can find stats) The best QBs drafted are the the ones with the highest scoring efficiency....
You guys just can't take the fact that Manziel ranks higher than Teddy in that regard, though both rate much lower than guys like Luck, Wilson, etc
Lol Teddy fans, I want Johnny Manziel just as much as I want Teddy, but I know Teddy is a better pro prospect the Johnny but would be happy with both, no need to act like Manziel is leaps and bounds above Teddy just because other people like him, they both are great prospects but the stuff your bringing up doesnt mean much, just look at the passing chart, it heavily favors Bridgewater
03-03-2014, 07:47 PM
Quote:Really? By your reasoning, Manziel choked in the first half of the Alabama game and gave away the game since it was too many points to come back from. And if you're referring to the UCF game, Louisville's defense was playing against the other of the "top" QB's. His defense lost that game.
His defense didn't loose the game, he failed to score on many consecutive drives an allowed the ther team to get back in it. They were up 21, and big time QBs don't loose leads Iike that and it wasn't the first time, though it was the first time it cost him a game.
03-03-2014, 07:51 PM
Quote:His defense didn't loose the game, he failed to score on many consecutive drives an allowed the ther team to get back in it. They were up 21, and big time QBs don't loose leads Iike that and it wasn't the first time, though it was the first time it cost him a game.Spoken like a true box score technician
Have you Bridgewater play period this year?
03-03-2014, 07:57 PM
Quote:Spoken like a true box score technician
Have you Bridgewater play period this year?
I have watched ever game he has played in. He was my favorite QB heading into this year.
03-03-2014, 07:59 PM
Then you must be Stevie Wonder then
03-03-2014, 08:22 PM
Quote:I have watched ever game he has played in. He was my favorite QB heading into this year.
But he isnt anymore?
03-03-2014, 08:24 PM
Quote:Then you must be Stevie Wonder then
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://draftbreakdown.com/video/teddy-bridgewater-vs-rutgers-2013/'>http://draftbreakdown.com/video/teddy-bridgewater-vs-rutgers-2013/</a>
At least 3-4 "chuck n duck" throws by TB in this game...
Would you guys like more videos?
Like I said every QB has throws where they just throw it up to their guy. Sometimes it works other times it doesn't.
03-03-2014, 08:27 PM
Quote:But he isnt anymore?
I never said he is horrible, I just don't think he will be as good as Manziel. I was a big Manziel hater after his first year and brushed him off as a one year wonder. Then he did it again this year, so I took noticed reviewed his film and cutups. And then compared stats and game situations and now I like Manziel more.