Quote:Maybe after Leftwich I'm just weary of the idea of drafting a guy to fix his mechanics. I admit the kids got a heck of an arm, I'm just not sure about fixing him or anyone with the 3rd overall pick.
Leftwich'a downfall was his slow release. Bortles has a quick release. It's really just footwork that needs tweaking.
Quote:Leftwich'a downfall was his slow release. Bortles has a quick release. It's really just footwork that needs tweaking.
I remember Leftwich dropping the ball LOW like I was seeing in that video, I'm not an expert or anything just saying we went down this road before of drafting a guy to fix him later.
Quote:I remember Leftwich dropping the ball LOW like I was seeing in that video, I'm not an expert or anything just saying we went down this road before of drafting a guy to fix him later.
I don't think Bortles needs much work and coaches are paid to help fix these issues.
It's gonna be a long wait if your looking for a qb that needs no work.
Quote:Maybe after Leftwich I'm just weary of the idea of drafting a guy to fix his mechanics.
....and you are smart to feel that way. So many fans/ even coaches think that these players can be "fixed" once already at this level when they've been throwing the same way all their lives. Its much harder to accomplish than it sounds. Even if things "appear" fixed in a controlled practice, as soon as the player goes back out there on the field in real game action he is likely to revert back to what is natural to him upon facing adversity when instinct take over.
Quote:Dumb idea.
You draft elite talent with the third over-all pick.
There are NO elite QBs in this draft. There are at least two quarterbacks with elite traits in college football next season.
The thought of a former Seminole as the Toast of Teal Town is driving the orange and blue crazy.
I hope by next season, you are not referring to either Jameis, Hundley, or Mariota. Jameis will be unavailable and there's a reason why Hundley/Mariota are not coming out this season. Hint: They're not elite. And really I don't see those QBs actually making their team better, it's the other way around. Teddy and Manziel make their teams better and Bortles has been clutch
Quote:Maybe after Leftwich I'm just weary of the idea of drafting a guy to fix his mechanics. I admit the kids got a heck of an arm, I'm just not sure about fixing him or anyone with the 3rd overall pick.
Phillip Rivers turned a strange delivery into a very good career.
Of course, for every Rivers, there are a dozen Leftwiches, Tebows and Carrs with a strange delivery that contributes to tanking their career. Not saying that you don't draft a guy purely because of his mechanics if everything else is solid, but spending a first-round pick on a guy with a windup or sidearm throwing style has to scare you a bit. Tebow actually reinforced that point. He spent the offseason before the draft learning to throw with a more conventional style to raise his stock, then as soon as the games started counting, he reverted to his natural delivery.
Quote:Phillip Rivers turned a strange delivery into a very good career.
Yeah, and I think part of that was that they simply lived or died with his natural throwing motion. They didn't ruin him by trying to make him something he wasn't.
IMO Rivers wind up was never that big of a deal to begin with. Overblown.
The wind up was an issue with a guy like Leftwich because everything was slow about Leftwich (physically). Compound that with small hands and small feet, and you'd have to be a Shack Harris to draft that guy in the top 10.....oh wait....
Quote:Yeah, and I think part of that was that they simply lived or died with his natural throwing motion. They didn't ruin him by trying to make him something he wasn't.
IMO Rivers wind up was never that big of a deal to begin with. Overblown.
The wind up was an issue with a guy like Leftwich because everything was slow about Leftwich (physically). Compound that with small hands and small feet, and you'd have to be a Shack Harris to draft that guy in the top 10.....oh wait....
I think Rivers benefitted from sitting for two years. And then when he became starter he had Ladanian Tomlinson, Michael Turner, Darren Sproles, Vincent Jackson and Antonio Gates.
@UCF_Football: Bortles: I have decided to pursue my dream of playing in the NFL I'd like to thank UCF and couldn't be more proud to say I played at UCF.
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The thought of a former Seminole as the Toast of Teal Town is driving the orange and blue crazy.
False.
For ten years thousands and thousands of Seminole fans and other gator-haters jumped to their feet and screamed at the top of their lungs when Fred Taylor broke a run.
When they become a Jag - that stuff goes away.
Quote:@UCF_Football: Bortles: I have decided to pursue my dream of playing in the NFL I'd like to thank UCF and couldn't be more proud to say I played at UCF.
Right on.
More options > less options.
Call me crazy but i see this kid developing into a very good QB. Is he going to step in right away and lead a to the playoffs no but I see him becoming a franchise type QB. As where I see Teddy stepping in right away in day one and grabbing hold of a team.
Quote:Right on.
More options > less options.
Are you the AT & T commercial guy???
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Quote:LOL.
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"Which would you rather have? A quarterback who throws more interceptions than Touchdowns like Chad Henne, or a Quarterback that might be good?"
"A Quarterback that might be good!"
"And why's that?"
"Because if you throw the ball more to the other team then your team mates will get mad, and be like 'grr why aren't you throwing me the ball instead of that guy." and then his mom and dad won't be happy because he didn't make the catches that he needs, and then they will ground him."
"They'll ground him?"
"Yes. And maybe cut his allowance too."
"I see."
Bortles seems like a QB Gus and Dave would love. I feel like he's gonna have a great combine and give Teddy a run for his money.
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Notice at :47 as he makes the TD pass he's falling away from the pass, to me that's a red flag. Then again at 1:20 he's throwing off his one foot, the other foot just swings out there in limbo land. I noticed at 1:50 I thought that's good footwork he's bouncing back and forth feet moving and then he goes into this baseball type pitch and launches the ball!?
Kid's got a rocket arm but I don't see the top pick value in him?
You realize you can get nitpick certain throws from elite qbs and find they do the same thing right? You think rodgers steps into every single pass he throws?
If anyone wants to put in the effort, go to @ryanlownes twitter feed and wath his vines from last night. excellent examples of Bortles demonstrating why he should be a top 10 pick. Its from the rutgers game which isnt on db at the moment too.
