Quote:The winner of the SEC Championship Game is the one with a better chance of beating FSU. I think #3 Auburn is the favorite there.
Ohio State can get into a shootout with Auburn or Missouri.
No, Ohio St. can't shoot it out with Missouri. They have excellent pass rushers. They play defense, like Michigan St. will.
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Quote:I heard if Mizzou wins, it should be Mizzou vs Bama.
Ive had to turn ESPN off alot today they are devoting 20 min a show to explain their case.
From who? Alabama fan? Nobody from ESPN is saying that. The two guys from ESPN who are pro-SEC are Cowherd and Finebaum. All they say is that the SEC Champ should get in against FSU or OSU. That's all.
Quote:There is no reason a team that did not play in its conference's championship game should play for the national championship.
That isn't in the rule book.
There is a reason: if that team is still the best in the country despite losing a game or two
Quote:That isn't in the rule book.
There is a reason: if that team is still the best in the country despite losing a game or two
When the BCS did it in the past, that team got blown out, showing everyone why they did not play in the Big 12 Championship Game. So there is no reason to do it because people hate blowouts.
Quote:No, Ohio St. can't shoot it out with Missouri. They have excellent pass rushers. They play defense, like Michigan St. will.
And how good is their offense? Ohio State has one of the best offenses in the nation.
Quote:And how good is their offense? Ohio State has one of the best offenses in the nation.
I guess we'll see Saturday. First defense that they'll see.
I always had no doubt that the SEC was far and away the best conference in college football (well, the top 2 or 3 teams in the conference are among the best).
But, I'm starting to wonder if the whole conference from top to bottom is near as strong as we have all thought these past few years.
Causing my question for this is Missouri and Texas A&M. Those schools just moved into the SEC from the mighty Big 12. Neither team was really a Big 12 juggernaut. Missouri would be good every 3-4 years. A&M really struggled for a long time until they got Johnny Football and a new coach.
Now, only in their 2nd season in SEC, Missouri is in the Conference Championship, and A&M has had good success and is definitely competitive with the other schools.
No doubt, the top 2-3-4 teams in SEC are strong, but regarding the whole conference as some great "level of competition" is starting to fade, in my eyes.
That said, the bowl records have been good. We'll see how that plays out this bowl season.
Quote:I always had no doubt that the SEC was far and away the best conference in college football (well, the top 2 or 3 teams in the conference are among the best).
But, I'm starting to wonder if the whole conference from top to bottom is near as strong as we have all thought these past few years.
Causing my question for this is Missouri and Texas A&M. Those schools just moved into the SEC from the mighty Big 12. Neither team was really a Big 12 juggernaut. Missouri would be good every 3-4 years. A&M really struggled for a long time until they got Johnny Football and a new coach.
Now, only in their 2nd season in SEC, Missouri is in the Conference Championship, and A&M has had good success and is definitely competitive with the other schools.
No doubt, the top 2-3-4 teams in SEC are strong, but regarding the whole conference as some great "level of competition" is starting to fade, in my eyes.
That said, the bowl records have been good. We'll see how that plays out this bowl season.
From top to bottom I think there has been a dip the last two seasons. I still think though it is still the top conference today.
Quote:From who? Alabama fan? Nobody from ESPN is saying that. The two guys from ESPN who are pro-SEC are Cowherd and Finebaum. All they say is that the SEC Champ should get in against FSU or OSU. That's all.
I listened to Brando (CBS) and Cowherd yesterday, and the callers on Brando's show were majority Bama fans drooling over the matchup.
Cowherd also said some foolishness about how Nebraska, Penn St, etc will never win a championship again because kids are going to the SEC.
Quote:I listened to Brando (CBS) and Cowherd yesterday, and the callers on Brando's show were majority Bama fans drooling over the matchup.
Cowherd also said some foolishness about how Nebraska, Penn St, etc will never win a championship again because kids are going to the SEC.
Cowherd is not all wrong. Not to say that Nebraska, Penn St., whoever else won't win titles again but kids, for now, want into the SEC.
Of the current Rivals 250 the breakdown per conference goes like this.
SEC - 80
ACC - 35
Big 10/11/12 - 23
Pac 12 - 22
Big 12 - 16
Independents - 7
AAC - 2
The SEC has as many as the ACC, Big 10/11/12, Pac 12 combined.
Quote:I always had no doubt that the SEC was far and away the best conference in college football (well, the top 2 or 3 teams in the conference are among the best).
But, I'm starting to wonder if the whole conference from top to bottom is near as strong as we have all thought these past few years.
Causing my question for this is Missouri and Texas A&M. Those schools just moved into the SEC from the mighty Big 12. Neither team was really a Big 12 juggernaut. Missouri would be good every 3-4 years. A&M really struggled for a long time until they got Johnny Football and a new coach.
Now, only in their 2nd season in SEC, Missouri is in the Conference Championship, and A&M has had good success and is definitely competitive with the other schools.
No doubt, the top 2-3-4 teams in SEC are strong, but regarding the whole conference as some great "level of competition" is starting to fade, in my eyes.
That said, the bowl records have been good. We'll see how that plays out this bowl season.
I did not think about that, but pointed out earlier this season only half of the SEC is good. What people forget is the SEC has 14 teams, including:
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Arkansas
The first five are perennial losers. Arkansas had some good seasons recently, but usually sucks.
Also, former powerhouses Florida and Georgia were unusually bad this season, making the SEC not as good as it used to be.
Quote:I listened to Brando (CBS) and Cowherd yesterday, and the callers on Brando's show were majority Bama fans drooling over the matchup.
Cowherd also said some foolishness about how Nebraska, Penn St, etc will never win a championship again because kids are going to the SEC.
I normally think Cowherd is a moron, but I agree with him there. Nebraska will never be the Nebraska of old. They're just an above average program now. Same with Penn State.
Quote:So winning the SEC should get you an automatic pass to the national title game?
My personal opinion is that the SEC champion (or any conference champion that has this type of run) should be in the national title game until someone can dethrone them.
It's obviously the best conference in the nation. How do you not have that conference team in the national title because they pick each other off during the season?
Quote:My personal opinion is that the SEC champion (or any conference champion that has this type of run) should be in the national title game until someone can dethrone them.
It's obviously the best conference in the nation. How do you not have that conference team in the national title because they pick each other off during the season?
Past accomplishments should have no bearing on this year.
To answer your question, you do so because that is how the BCS is set up. You are punished often times for playing tough opponents. Hard to feel sorry for an SEC not getting in it when they have gotten the benefit so often in the last 7 years against other 1 loss teams. Certainly you can make a case for Auburn if they beat Mizzou and I think they should have a shot, just not in this format. Next year they would.
By the way, who do you root for?
Now the all-important question for this week . . . What times are the games being played?
Quote:Stanford
MSU
FSU
Auburn
These are my selections as well.