Quote:Yea, I can't believe he looks so great with all that NFL talent on temples defense!
Thats funny because Gabbert has played bad defenses in college and still looked mediocre vs them.
Teddy can only play who's on the schedule....and if he played down to the level of competition, THEN, I'd worry....but he doesn't.
Quote:Thats funny because Gabbert has played bad defenses in college and still looked mediocre vs them.
Teddy can only play who's on the schedule....and if he
played down to the level of competition, THEN, I'd worry....but he doesn't.
I like Teddy. But I'm just not ready to anoint him our savior like you are. I just can't bring myself to do it when he doesn't play against real competition.
Quote:I like Teddy. But I'm just not ready to anoint him our savior like you are. I just can't bring myself to do it when he doesn't play against real competition.
Lots of college QB play soft schedules.
Gabbert did his Junior year and still played like crap.
Quote:You can get a good grasp on someone's character with how quickly they turn to insults during conversation.
Or how short sighted they are..
Quote:Not only that - but just about all of his passes are -consistently- thrown just about perfect - he has great touch on the ball and usually puts it only where the WR can make a play on it, and not the DB...
sounds like bradford when he was coming out
Quote:Lots of college QB play soft schedules.
Gabbert did his Junior year and still played like crap.
You keep mentioning gabbert as if anyone on here still thinks he is a starting caliber NFL QB. I think that has been put to rest. And I do like Teddy, a lot. And if he shows up in a BCS bowl game against top competition again this year then I'll probably be sold. But I do not think he can be considered a once in a decade QB prospect yet, with the competetion he's played in his career so far.
Quote:sounds like bradford when he was coming out
Except, Bradford didn't play in a pro style offense.
Quote:You keep mentioning gabbert as if anyone on here still thinks he is a starting caliber NFL QB. I think that has been put to rest. And I do like Teddy, a lot. And if he shows up in a BCS bowl game against top competition again this year then I'll probably be sold. But I do not think he can be considered a once in a decade QB prospect yet, with the competetion he's played in his career so far.
What
competition did Andrew Luck face in the PAC 10??? :wacko:
Quote:Except, Bradford didn't play in a pro style offense.
lol i thought it didnt matter as long as he can throw a perfect pass in double coverage?
Quote:lol i thought it didnt matter as long as he can throw a perfect pass in double coverage?
The ignorance in that response is staggering.
HeeRo just spends his time downplaying everything Teddy does because he wants Clowney.
Nevermind that Spurrier was displeased with Clowney recently. Bridgewater doesn't play strong competition!
In any case, I only want to see this team win games that it actually wins, and not games that the other team loses. I only want them to win if there's actual improvement, rather than just to say they won. Because THAT is what's creating a culture of losing in Jacksonville. Not because of draft position. But because sometimes a reality check is needed.
Quote:how so? please explain
What does that have to do with anything? I was talking about a specific play today against "sub-par talent" and you're implying that's the entire argument for why Bridgewater is worth a top pick?
Quote:What competition did Andrew Luck face in the PAC 10??? :wacko:
That's the thing I keep going back to as well. There are some outstanding QBs in the NFL today who didn't face the stiffest competition in college.
There are polished QBs who came out of college from better conferences who everyone pegged as sure things who eventually washed out at the next level.
There are no guarantees in the NFL when it comes to the QB position. But, if your team is desperate for QB talent, you find the best available option and roll the dice. Bridgewater will be one of, if not the best option in the May draft.
Quote:What competition did Andrew Luck face in the PAC 10??? :wacko:
Luck played a handful of ranked teams every year. Teddy has ziltch on the schedule this year. They should coast to an undefeated record and get a top 5 team in their bowl game. If he lights it up in that game I'll all the way on the Teddy wagon.
Quote:....yes, they weren't willing to pay Monroe that kind of money to play ORT because he simply isn't a good fit to play that position. They can draft a true ORT to play the position, pay him less, and get better production.
While "cheaper" is a benefit, I guess, I don't see money being the main motivator here - its about getting the most production from the 2 Tackle positions. Joeckel > Monroe @ OLT, so he goes there, and Monroe would be even less effective at ORT than he was at OLT, so bon voyage. Granted, I still think it could have been handled better to get more of a return, but I don't see this as money dump. There was a legit football reasoning behind the move.
If all this is true, what does it say about the talent evaluation of Caldwell, who went on about the interchangeability of the two tackle positions these days after taking Joeckel?
Quote:There are no guarantees in the NFL when it comes to the QB position. But, if your team is desperate for QB talent, you find the best available option and roll the dice. Bridgewater will be one of, if not the best option in the May draft.
The only reason you'd pass on Bridgewater is if you don't feel he has the best chance to succeed of the Quarterbacks. You take the best option at QB when you need one (where the value is right) for three reasons:
#1. The best option has the best chance of success. When you're rolling the dice on a QB (and you always are when you draft them) you want to have to roll even or odd, rather than a 3 . QB is too important of a position to take a long shot when you don't have one. It's when you have one that you take longer shots where they can do minimal impact.
#2. If they
are the best QB in the draft, the best way to limit the number of TD's they throw against you is to pick them. Passing on a good quarterback is just as dangerous as picking a bad one.
#3. QB is the most important position on the field. Even more so now days. You
can have success without them. But that success will not likely be long term. Look at Houston. They have a staunch Defense. But if they get behind against a team, they're going to have trouble. Defenses start comebacks, Offenses stop them, Quarterbacks keep them going.
Quote:Luck played a handful of ranked teams every year. Teddy has ziltch on the schedule this year. They should coast to an undefeated record and get a top 5 team in their bowl game. If he lights it up in that game I'll all the way on the Teddy wagon.
I don't want to hear about "ranked" teams.....the point was he didn't play against a lot of tough defenses. Hell, one of the best defenses that Luck probably faced in the PAC 10 was his own in practice.
Quote:What does that have to do with anything? I was talking about a specific play today against "sub-par talent" and you're implying that's the entire argument for why Bridgewater is worth a top pick?
my point was since teddy and bradford both can throw the perfect pass, i compared them both to TMD, and he rebutted by saying bradford doesnt play a pro style offense, regardless of the offense or the competition(your argument) it shouldnt matter as long as you can hit those passes with ease. tell me where i went wrong?
Quote:If all this is true, what does it say about the talent evaluation of Caldwell, who went on about the interchangeability of the two tackle positions these days after taking Joeckel?
again, if you have been following my argument, I have agreed that Caldwell deserves plenty of blame. I think the situation was mis-managed.