Quote:They know this how?
Yeah we wasn't shopping Monroe either
Does this board get post out of order from time to time for anyone else?
Quote:Because I understand what I am seeing in the moves that are being made.
I guess you and a few others do not.
What part of your above babble makes what you are stating fact? That's right, nada.
Quote:Does this board get post out of order from time to time for anyone else?
Yes. Makes me go cross-eyed.
Quote:If Baltimore would not even pay his whole remaining salary. Then why would they sign him long term?
If you could buy something cheaper than its really worth, wouldn't you???
Because Newsome took Caldwell to school, thats why. He got exactly what he wanted, and got it for the cheapest price possible.
Quote:Does this board get post out of order from time to time for anyone else?
Yes. I've seen myself reply to someone, quote them, and then their post be after my post, and I'm like [BLEEP]
Quote:If Baltimore would not even pay his whole remaining salary. Then why would they sign him long term?
im thinking the ravens dont have enough cap space this season to absorb most of monroes salary?
Quote:If you could buy something cheaper than its really worth, wouldn't you???
Because Newsome took Caldwell to school, thats why. He got exactly what he wanted, and got it for the cheapest price possible.
I wouldn't exactly say we were taken to school. We came up with the short end of the stick, but the whole goal was to clear out cap space and accumulate picks... The picks weren't what they should have been, but we can make up for it in Free Agency.
Quote:Does this board get post out of order from time to time for anyone else?
It does sometimes initially after you post when theres a lot of other people posting in the thread, but it sorts itself out quickly after you hit refresh or go to the next page.
Quote:im thinking the ravens dont have enough cap space this season to absorb most of monroes salary?
This is what happend, I better there was a little under the table going on in that deal!
Just posted by O'Halloran:
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<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:helvetica, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">A few hours after the trade of left tackle Eugene Monroe to Baltimore became official, Jaguars general manager Dave Caldwell said he is not conducting a fire sale.
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:helvetica, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">“No, absolutely not,” he said today at EverBank Field.
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:helvetica, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Caldwell said he had spoken with running back Maurice Jones-Drew and middle linebacker Paul Posluszny and told both he has no intention of trading them for draft picks.
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:helvetica, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">“I had good talks with them today and they’re not going anywhere,” Caldwell said. “Nor do they want to go anywhere. We feel good about both those guys.”
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:helvetica, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Jones-Drew is playing the final year of his contract and Posluszny is in the third season of a six-year deal.
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:helvetica, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">“We’ll always answer our phone,” said Caldwell, who added, “We have no intention of trading anybody on our roster.”
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:helvetica, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Caldwell said he wasn’t shopping Monroe – the Ravens called on Tuesday and once the negotiations were complete, he accepted Baltimore’s offer of fourth- and fifth-round picks in the 2014 draft.
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:helvetica, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">“They showed some real interest and had the power to do it with the amount of draft picks they’re expected to have with their compensatory picks,” Caldwell said. “Everything aligned perfectly. It happened really quickly.
<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:helvetica, 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);">“It’s really going to help us here in the future.”
Quote:im thinking the ravens dont have enough cap space this season to absorb most of monroes salary?
Bingo.
However, next year with some creative accounting they can afford to pay him a long-term deal.
Quote:Yes. I've seen myself reply to someone, quote them, and then their post be after my post, and I'm like **********
Ok thought I was going nuts for a second, I said that's it the Jaguars have officially caused me to lose my mind! :woot:
Quote:If you could buy something cheaper than its really worth, wouldn't you???
Because Newsome took Caldwell to school, thats why. He got exactly what he wanted, and got it for the cheapest price possible.
Quote:If you could buy something cheaper than its really worth, wouldn't you???
Because Newsome took Caldwell to school, thats why. He got exactly what he wanted, and got it for the cheapest price possible.
I bought things cheaper before. And had to pay for maintenance down the road. You get what you pay for. The ravens have no belief nor ties to Monroe. They know if he stinks they can let him walk end of season.
Ozzie payed what he thought was fair. For a struggling tackle.
Quote:I wouldn't exactly say we were taken to school. We came up with the short end of the stick, but the whole goal was to clear out cap space and accumulate picks... The picks weren't what they should have been, but we can make up for it in Free Agency.
The fact that we ALSO had to pay most of Monroe's remaining contract this year should have been something where Caldwell could have used as a bargaining point for our side to up the compensation.....
Not only did we get a scant return in draft choices, but ALSO had to PAY most of the money left. LOL! thats HORRIBLE negotiating.
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Quote:The fact that we ALSO had to pay most of Monroe's remaining contract this year should have been something where Caldwell could have used as a bargaining point for our side to up the compensation.....
Not only did we get a pithy return in draft choices, but ALSO had to PAY most of the money left. LOL! thats HORRIBLE negotiating.
TMD you should copy and post that quote that NYCjags has and put it in your OP post
Quote:I bought things cheaper before. And had to pay for maintenance down the road. You get what you pay for. The ravens have no belief nor ties to Monroe. They know if he stinks they can let him walk end of season.
Ozzie payed what he thought was fair. For a struggling tackle.
Who smartly realized/ identified that the likely reason for his "struggles" this year was adapting to a new scheme. Thats how smart people get bargains....they see things that Joe public (you) apparently cannot.
Quote:The fact that we ALSO had to pay most of Monroe's remaining contract this year should have been something where Caldwell could have used as a bargaining point for our side to up the compensation.....
Not only did we get a pithy return in draft choices, but ALSO had to PAY most of the money left. LOL! thats HORRIBLE negotiating.
I agree. But in the end we achieved what we were trying to do. We should have gotten better... And I would have held on for better, but I don't think we screwed ourselves either. The biggest net here is the additional cap space we will have to work with in Free Agency. Hopefully with that 7-12 million he would have cost we can bring in a player or two that perform at the same level or near it.
Quote:The fact that we ALSO had to pay most of Monroe's remaining contract this year should have been something where Caldwell could have used as a bargaining point for our side to up the compensation.....
Not only did we get a pithy return in draft choices, but ALSO had to PAY most of the money left. LOL! thats HORRIBLE negotiating.
The Cardinals got a
conditional 7th round pick, and are picking up most of Brown's salary.
Cardinals: So... how about Levi Brown? Want him?
Steelers: Hmm... what do you want for him?
Cardinals: A 6th?
Steelers: That's way too much!
Cardinals: Fine a 7th...
Steelers: Conditional 7th!
Cardinals: ...C'mon! It's practically a UDFA at that point.
Steelers: Conditional 7th,
and you pick up his salary.
Cardinals: ...Fine. Deal!
Potentially, the Cardinals are saying "Here Steelers, have Levi Brown on us. We'll even pay his salary, and you don't even have to give us anything!"