(03-28-2018, 04:37 PM)fredalwaysajag Wrote: [ -> ] (03-28-2018, 04:10 PM)jagboss Wrote: [ -> ]Here's his highlight clip.Looks decent
https://youtu.be/clo0TWljvbE
Thanks. He looks to throw a "prettier" ball than Blake. 3rd round pick who could definitely develop into a decent player. (See:Case Keenum)
At 5:22 of video, he has a .33 seconds releases vs Blake .5
(03-28-2018, 03:41 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-28-2018, 03:20 PM)Dumptruck Wrote: [ -> ]Immobile, noodle arm, and regularly concussed. But it is a conditional 7th so kind of a wash. Hopefully this doesn’t move the needle as far as needing a QB2 somewhere in the draft.
He's not immobile.
You didn’t have to watch him play for the Browns. He got wrecked because he was a statue.
(03-28-2018, 04:40 PM)NH3 Wrote: [ -> ]I seriously expect Kessler to push BB5 to greater success. BB5 will now be looking over his shoulders knowing the possibilities of being benched if he falters to which I don't expect. I like this trade alot.
NH3...
If Bortles is stinking it up to the point of fearing Kessler stealing his job then all is lost.
Dismissing the hyperbole, here's his draft profile:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/c...id=2555387
STRENGTHS Baseline accuracy is pro quality. Never had a completion percentage lower than 65 percent as a three-year starter. Will take what the defense gives them and keep the chains moving. Able to play "backyard catch" with open receivers underneath if defenses let him. Delivered from the pocket with a 70.4 completion percentage rate. Adequate arm strength. Good general sense of running an offense. Gets through progressions quickly. Has pocket feel with ability to climb the pocket to throw or escape from side doors when necessary.
WEAKNESSES Just a shade over 6-foot-1, which is smaller than teams like. Below average move accuracy as a passer. Ability to hit targets with catchable throws falls off the table when forced to scramble. Doesn't show poise or arm strength for deep routes needing additional time to develop. Footwork unsettled by perceived pocket pressure. Tends to hesitate over anticipating and trusting his arm. Low-risk, low-reward approach. Rarely makes the "wow" throws with velocity or touch. Feet look jittery when moving from read to read.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 5 or 6
NFL COMPARISON Aaron Murray
BOTTOM LINE Can orchestrate an offense with confidence and accuracy when operating from a clean pocket, but doesn't appear to have the mentality of a player willing to take the risks necessary to strike with big plays often enough on the pro level. Kessler has moments where it is easy to like him on tape, but the traits and tape look more like those of a good, career backup than playoff starter.
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Not sure what there's not here to like for a conditional 7th. You'd have to reach pretty far and try pretty hard.
Benched for a noodle arm no way blake has a much better arm then kessler. If you cant make all the throws you cant be a starter ever.
NFL Draft Profile
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/c...id=2555387
OVERVIEW
Physically, there's nothing special about Kessler; he possesses average size, an adequate arm, and fair athleticism (though he can effectively move within the pocket, which is important). The three-year starter could never crack Pac-12 first or second all-conference teams from league coaches, thrice finishing in the honorable mention category. However, Kessler was a finalist for the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award the past two years because he moves the offense efficiently (3,826 yards, completed 69.7 percent of his passes; 3,536, 66.8 percent in 2015) and doesnt turn the ball over much (39 touchdowns, five interceptions in 2014; 29 TD, 7 INT in 2015). In fact, Kessler owns the school record for career completion percentage at 67.5.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Baseline accuracy is pro quality. Never had a completion percentage lower than 65 percent as a three-year starter. Will take what the defense gives them and keep the chains moving. Able to play "backyard catch" with open receivers underneath if defenses let him. Delivered from the pocket with a 70.4 completion percentage rate. Adequate arm strength. Good general sense of running an offense. Gets through progressions quickly. Has pocket feel with ability to climb the pocket to throw or escape from side doors when necessary.
WEAKNESSES Just a shade over 6-foot-1, which is smaller than teams like. Below average move accuracy as a passer. Ability to hit targets with catchable throws falls off the table when forced to scramble. Doesn't show poise or arm strength for deep routes needing additional time to develop. Footwork unsettled by perceived pocket pressure. Tends to hesitate over anticipating and trusting his arm. Low-risk, low-reward approach. Rarely makes the "wow" throws with velocity or touch. Feet look jittery when moving from read to read.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 5 or 6
NFL COMPARISON Aaron Murray
BOTTOM LINE Can orchestrate an offense with confidence and accuracy when operating from a clean pocket, but doesn't appear to have the mentality of a player willing to take the risks necessary to strike with big plays often enough on the pro level. Kessler has moments where it is easy to like him on tape, but the traits and tape look more like those of a good, career backup than playoff starter.
I love this move. He is very accurate.
(03-28-2018, 04:51 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]Benched for a noodle arm no way blake has a much better arm then kessler. If you cant make all the throws you cant be a starter ever.
Umm... that's the point. That he would be backup.
Or were you confusing this move as a replacement for Blake? <Ooof>
Kessler is a young QB with a good completion % that costs us a conditional 7th rounder...
Not sure why anyone would "hate" the move outside of hating everything in their life lol
He's a backup at best and a camp arm at worst for next to nothing.
Those of you hoping for a QB @ 29... this move doesn't negate that option.
(03-28-2018, 04:51 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]Benched for a noodle arm no way blake has a much better arm then kessler. If you cant make all the throws you cant be a starter ever.
Keep in mind he was with the Browns. A terrible roster with a bad HC (from what I hear on the interwebz) with an awful front office (from what I witnessed during the Sashi Brown era)
I'm not saying this kid will become anything...
but trading a conditional 7th rounder means the team doesn't expect much other than possibly filling a back up role.
People on here freak out over backup QBs for the weirdest reasons.
If your back up is in... you're likely in trouble.
Situations like the Eagles and Vikes are outliers and not the norm.
Most teams don't have great back ups. It is why they are back ups....
Hell most teams can't get a decent starter.... and then there's the idea that these back up QBs perform well under the system they are in and perhaps we see that when Keenum ultimately fails next season.
Foles will be protected by being the backup for another year... we've seen that guy have a great year and then disappear.... backups are backups for a reason. Hoping we sign some superstar to be a backup is silly...
(03-28-2018, 02:57 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Only impact on the draft is there's no pressure to draft a scrub late just to be a backup and waste a pick.
Doesn't change anything about the small possibility of a QB at #29.
Yup, if we cant get the QB we want in the draft we needed a backup QB and all the FA QBs left are trash
(03-28-2018, 04:51 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure what there's not here to like for a conditional 7th. You'd have to reach pretty far and try pretty hard.
I like the move as an insurance policy against the unpredictability of the draft, but this just can't be the whole plan at back up QB that Caldwell referenced IMO. I don't feel like this move
solves the back up QB issue of this team. In running through the possible 2018 season variables and scenarios, the one where Blake tears an ACL in pre-season and Kessler comes in to lead the team still has to scare the hell out of them and would in all likelihood be a completely wasted year for this roster. The Jags are the type of team that should either invest a significant chunk of change in their back up QB spot (they clearly decided against this or they would have made a push for some of the guys that had already signed elsewhere) or draft a guy high that is pro-ready or can be ready at some point this year considering what's at stake and how quickly windows can close. They could also make another trade for a back up after the draft so I realize it doesn't have to necessarily be one or the other of those options, but to me at this point it just reinforces that they're thinking QB high in the draft.
I see. Zero competition for Blake. Job not in jeopardy. Seems like a smart decision.
(03-28-2018, 04:40 PM)NH3 Wrote: [ -> ]I seriously expect Kessler to push BB5 to greater success. BB5 will now be looking over his shoulders knowing the possibilities of being benched if he falters to which I don't expect. I like this trade alot.
NH3...
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Yeah looking over his shoulder at garbage. Get out of here dude.
(03-28-2018, 04:59 PM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ] (03-28-2018, 04:51 PM)nhiverson Wrote: [ -> ]Benched for a noodle arm no way blake has a much better arm then kessler. If you cant make all the throws you cant be a starter ever.
Umm... that's the point. That he would be backup.
Or were you confusing this move as a replacement for Blake? <Ooof>
Someone said he expects him to push blake i was responding to that. I mean yeah kessler is fine for backup /3rd string
I would have thought we were definitely drafting a QB this year; but this has me questioning that. I doubt we keep 3 QBs on the roster; so drafting one would seem to be no longer needed. I didn't see a Kessler signing coming though lol. We'll see how it goes.
Love the move.
Conditional pick, we can evaluate him during camp and earlier part of the season and if he doesn't show enough we cut him without losing the 7th round pick.
And it doesn't impact the draft at all, actually it saves a late round pick for a QB in case our earlier rounds options aren't there and he has already had NFL experience.
Zero risks move.
(03-28-2018, 04:55 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]I love this move. He is very accurate.
Yup, with his accuracy and dink and dunk, he fits the Jaguars philosophy, run the football, no turnovers,ball control, play excellent defense and special teams. Now that the Jaguars got their 2nd QB, no need to waste the 29th draft pick on some experiment developmental rookie garbage tier qb. Expect the Jaguars to draft BAP road grader nasty o-linemen and nasty BAP defensive players so the Jaguars can be the new bullies of the NFL.
(03-28-2018, 05:53 PM)irontrooper83 Wrote: [ -> ]Love the move.
Conditional pick, we can evaluate him during camp and earlier part of the season and if he doesn't show enough we cut him without losing the 7th round pick.
And it doesn't impact the draft at all, actually it saves a late round pick for a QB in case our earlier rounds options aren't there and he has already had NFL experience.
Zero risks move.
Good point about it being a conditional pick. We could actually cut him and it wouldn't affect much.
Develop Kessler for a couple years, if he shows promise and we’re still happy with Bortles, we can trade Kessler for a high round draft pick........worked with Rob Johnson.