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The Jags will be very unpredictable in the 2018 draft after all of these FA moves.

So many ways to go at each of their first four picks.

I kinda' dig it.

Good back-up for a run oriented team. Hope we get Hernandez for RG.

(03-28-2018, 05:58 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2018, 04:55 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]I love this move. He is very accurate.

Yup, with his accuracy and dink and dunk,  he fits the Jaguars philosophy, run the football, no turnovers,ball control, play excellent defense and special teams.  Now that the Jaguars got their 2nd QB, no need to waste the 29th draft pick on some experiment developmental rookie garbage tier qb.  Expect the Jaguars to draft BAP road grader nasty o-linemen and nasty BAP defensive players so the Jaguars can be the new bullies of the NFL.

Your best post ever in your checkered career.

Mikey likes it.

It even more sets up for Lamar Jackson as the the pick.

I was caught off guard by this move, but I like it.  A young, decent backup with potential to develop.  Remember, he was thrown in way before he was ready during his rookie season due to injuries.  He has also been on a very bad team since he entered the NFL.  Some coaching and work could possibly improve his game.

We traded Kessler for dang near Mr. Irrelevent if its a 2019 7th rounder.

I swear I predicted this at one point, or atleast thought it was a good idea.

(03-28-2018, 06:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]The Jags will be very unpredictable in the 2018 draft after all of these FA moves.

So many ways to go at each of their first four picks.

I kinda' dig it.

They've covered all the bases. To me, this only enforces the notion that there is a particular guy that they are targeting. I don't see them sitting back and letting the draft come to them. Expect some movement.

(03-28-2018, 07:33 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2018, 06:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]The Jags will be very unpredictable in the 2018 draft after all of these FA moves.

So many ways to go at each of their first four picks.

I kinda' dig it.

They've covered all the bases. To me, this only enforces the notion that there is a particular guy that they are targeting. I don't see them sitting back and letting the draft come to them. Expect some movement.

Who do you think that player is?

(03-28-2018, 07:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2018, 07:33 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]They've covered all the bases. To me, this only enforces the notion that there is a particular guy that they are targeting. I don't see them sitting back and letting the draft come to them. Expect some movement.

Who do you think that player is?

I don't know.

I was thinking QB almost immediately after our free agent moves but now I've somewhat waivered on that. Although it still could be a possibility. I also thought maybe they set themselves up for a BAP type of draft but Coughlin has never been a BAP type of drafter and neither has Caldwell, at least not in the top rounds. I have a feeling we will have an exciting first round though.

(03-28-2018, 07:46 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2018, 07:39 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Who do you think that player is?

I don't know.

I was thinking QB almost immediately after our free agent moves but now I've somewhat waivered on that. Although it still could be a possibility. I also thought maybe they set themselves up for a BAP type of draft but Coughlin has never been a BAP type of drafter and neither has Caldwell, at least not in the top rounds. I have a feeling we will have an exciting first round though.

The last few years we have went BPA

(03-28-2018, 07:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2018, 07:46 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know.

I was thinking QB almost immediately after our free agent moves but now I've somewhat waivered on that. Although it still could be a possibility. I also thought maybe they set themselves up for a BAP type of draft but Coughlin has never been a BAP type of drafter and neither has Caldwell, at least not in the top rounds. I have a feeling we will have an exciting first round though.

The last few years we have went BPA

Fournette was a need - we were coming off a year with one of the worst rushing attacks in Jags history. Ramsey was a bit of both. He was arguably the best player in the draft that just happened to fall to us. We just lucked up and definitely needed the upgrade at the position. Fowler was most certainly a need as we have needed an edge rusher since Tony Brackens. I think we can all agree QB was a need when we drafted Bortles.

(03-28-2018, 07:04 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ]We traded Kessler for dang near Mr. Irrelevent if its a 2019 7th rounder.

That sucks that we didn't have the foresight to realize JJ Cosentino would be entering the NFL Draft after leading FSU to the National Championship this upcoming year.   JJ is from Pittsburgh Central Catholic, home of Dan Marino.  They have the same pedigree !!!

This is like trading Marion for Kessler --- this is not good. 

UPDATE:  JJ CONSENTINO NO LONGER ON THE FSU FOOTBALL TEAM.  HE MUST BE STARTING HIS COMBINE TRAINING EARLY IN PREPARATION FOR THE 2019 NFL DRAFT.

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports...087791001/

Even if we drafted a QB with our first pick, I think it would be a little far fetched to expect them to fill the back up role on opening day. That is usually reserved for rookies picked at the top of the draft who are expected to be the next face of the franchise and we aren't picking there.

So no matter what direction we go in the draft, we still need a veteran back up on the roster. I think Kessler fills that role just fine.

(03-28-2018, 08:06 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2018, 07:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]The last few years we have went BPA

Fournette was a need - we were coming off a year with one of the worst rushing attacks in Jags history. Ramsey was a bit of both. He was arguably the best player in the draft that just happened to fall to us. We just lucked up and definitely needed the upgrade at the position. Fowler was most certainly a need as we have needed an edge rusher since Tony Brackens. I think we can all agree QB was a need when we drafted Bortles.

So if the player you pick is a need it cant be BPA?  Fournette was a need and BPA, Ramsey, was a need and BPA, Fowler was a need and BPA, Jack and Cam were also needs and BPA

you know what good teams do? trade for Browns QBs

(03-28-2018, 07:33 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2018, 06:25 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]The Jags will be very unpredictable in the 2018 draft after all of these FA moves.

So many ways to go at each of their first four picks.

I kinda' dig it.

They've covered all the bases. To me, this only enforces the notion that there is a particular guy that they are targeting. I don't see them sitting back and letting the draft come to them. Expect some movement.

I don't know, I'm more of the belief that them covering all bases now, it sets them up to let the board fall how it may and they can take the BAP. Maybe it's QB, maybe it's TE, maybe a Guard, maybe OT, maybe WR, maybe LB. I don't think any of those positions are completely out of the question at #29. I think they've worked themselves into the perfect spot with FA and they don't have to worry about bundling up picks in order to get that "one guy".

Now, I'm not saying that's not the case, they very well could be eyeing one, or two certain guys and are going to go after them hard. My feeling is just that they covered all bases so they could go anywhere they want at #29 and truly take the BAP.

(03-28-2018, 09:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2018, 08:06 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]Fournette was a need - we were coming off a year with one of the worst rushing attacks in Jags history. Ramsey was a bit of both. He was arguably the best player in the draft that just happened to fall to us. We just lucked up and definitely needed the upgrade at the position. Fowler was most certainly a need as we have needed an edge rusher since Tony Brackens. I think we can all agree QB was a need when we drafted Bortles.

So if the player you pick is a need it cant be BPA?  Fournette was a need and BPA, Ramsey, was a need and BPA, Fowler was a need and BPA, Jack and Cam were also needs and BPA

Pulled this from a dated article:

Quote: DRAFTING NEEDS: If any team could preach drafting "best player available" in every round, it would be Jacksonville, which has numerous holes. But Bradley acknowledges the draft is more about filling needs. "Is it really best available?" he said. "We say 'best available,' but is it? No, need obviously plays into it. I think it's best available if someone's there and it's like, 'Are you kidding me? He's here?' Then you have those conversations of, 'We've got to take this guy.'"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...b/8774215/

Take that FWIW. But that is coming from someone who was in the draft meetings and debates and sat in the war room with Caldwell.

(03-28-2018, 09:52 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-28-2018, 07:33 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]They've covered all the bases. To me, this only enforces the notion that there is a particular guy that they are targeting. I don't see them sitting back and letting the draft come to them. Expect some movement.

I don't know, I'm more of the belief that them covering all bases now, it sets them up to let the board fall how it may and they can take the BAP. Maybe it's QB, maybe it's TE, maybe a Guard, maybe OT, maybe WR, maybe LB. I don't think any of those positions are completely out of the question at #29. I think they've worked themselves into the perfect spot with FA and they don't have to worry about bundling up picks in order to get that "one guy".

Now, I'm not saying that's not the case, they very well could be eyeing one, or two certain guys and are going to go after them hard. My feeling is just that they covered all bases so they could go anywhere they want at #29 and truly take the BAP.

That could certainly be the case as well and I haven’t ruled that out as of yet. I just don’t get that feeling based on the history of our front office. Caldwell historically has never been the “sit back and let the draft come to him” kind of guy. He’s traded up multiple times to get “his guy”. I think he’s traded back a grand total of once since being here. Couple this with the fact that the feeling around the building is that we are going “all in” for this year and it wouldn’t shock me in the least if we are aggressively targeting someone who they believe can tip the scales in our favor. They understand that if we move up, it will cost us a good portion of our picks, but that’s ok - because the vast majority of our needs were filled in FA.