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Lee has fooled many fans and even coaches with his amazing in shorts arm ability:
https://www.cornnation.com/2018/1/28/169...enior-bowl
FYI- I wasnt one of those fans. While I still went to the games and supported the team and players- I was 100% positive the Smilin Mike Riley coaching staff would fail the day they were hired and I thought Lee would have the same results here that he had at Tulane. Lee left a year early- because he knows he has no chance to see the field with the Scott Frost offense. Had Lee stayed- he would have been "playing" behind a true Freshman, Redshirt Freshman and Walk On transfer. Since NU has what several services have ranked as the #1 most difficult schedule and will probably only win 6 or 7 games next year- it was highly likely Lee wouldnt have played even a single snap and wouldnt have made the travel squad.
Unfortunately- Tanner Lee is that very pretty sports car that has gone through 5 owners in 3 years and is a lemon- has electrical issues- wont start
Everyone thinks that with just the right mix of coaching and environment they can turn him around
A lemon is a lemon- he's not a QB who will win games in the NFL
Looks great in the "costume" and practice though- if only the team could get points awarded for that
The dealio is- the game thing is REALLY important- some guys dont get that:
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...te-comment "We have had very few issues, except for the games"
While the Jags coaching/scouting staff definitely missed the boat on this one- at least it was a late pick
But if I was a Jags fan- that decision making ability would give me pause.
If you guys need a good scout team QB to build up your defenses confidence- he's your guy- starter- not so much
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(04-29-2018, 07:40 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (04-29-2018, 07:37 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]Listening to the videos from Cough-Well it sounds like they have a pretty good idea as to what they have in Lee. Eric Price our offensive assistant coach was the offensive coordinator at Tulane when Lee was there and it sounds like they relied heavily on his opinion.
They need to fire him.
Why? They drafted a QB in the sixth round. You know what kind of QB you get in the sixth round? One with a couple of attributes that project well to the pros and a
lot of problems to fix. Tom Brady fell because he had a limp arm, was built like a twig and was regarded as a warm body holding down the job only until Drew Henson was ready. If you find a day one starting QB in the sixth round--hell, even a day one unquestioned top backup--your QB depth chart sucks and your team is going to be in the toilet this year.
Lee has a big arm, good size and Big 10 starting experience. That's enough to get you drafted in round six as a QB.
Good pick to me. We basically got Josh Allen in the sixth round.
(05-01-2018, 01:53 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]Good pick to me. We basically got Josh Allen in the sixth round.
You are not far off. Lee just threw more INTs. It will be interesting to compare their careers in the next 3-4 years.
(05-01-2018, 02:14 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2018, 01:53 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]Good pick to me. We basically got Josh Allen in the sixth round.
You are not far off. Lee just threw more INTs. It will be interesting to compare their careers in the next 3-4 years.
Other than a cannon arm (no small consideration), I don't see what so many see in Allen. Just not accurate at all. Decision making is a question mark. And no clutch gene.
(04-30-2018, 07:07 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (04-30-2018, 06:24 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]Kessler is a better backup. Tanner Lee isn't about that. Tanner Lee is about a guy we can possibly turn into a starter by September 2020.
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I thought I was the only 1. im like, "is buddy serious?"
(05-01-2018, 02:18 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2018, 02:14 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]You are not far off. Lee just threw more INTs. It will be interesting to compare their careers in the next 3-4 years.
Other than a cannon arm (no small consideration), I don't see what so many see in Allen. Just not accurate at all. Decision making is a question mark. And no clutch gene.
When I found out he was coming out for the Draft, he was instantly my favorite QB in the draft and I wasn't sure why. Something just told me he has "it". I think he is the type of guy you really like or you really hate. No real middle with him.
(05-01-2018, 02:26 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2018, 02:18 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]Other than a cannon arm (no small consideration), I don't see what so many see in Allen. Just not accurate at all. Decision making is a question mark. And no clutch gene.
When I found out he was coming out for the Draft, he was instantly my favorite QB in the draft and I wasn't sure why. Something just told me he has "it". I think he is the type of guy you really like or you really hate. No real middle with him.
While I do not believe for a second that he's a closet racist, I do question the wisdom and/or thoroughness of whoever was handling him in not making him delete those tweets long, long ago.
(05-01-2018, 03:22 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2018, 02:26 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]When I found out he was coming out for the Draft, he was instantly my favorite QB in the draft and I wasn't sure why. Something just told me he has "it". I think he is the type of guy you really like or you really hate. No real middle with him.
While I do not believe for a second that he's a closet racist, I do question the wisdom and/or thoroughness of whoever was handling him in not making him delete those tweets long, long ago.
He was a young kid trying to sound cool. And yes, they should have been deleted before he even went to college.
(05-01-2018, 05:06 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2018, 02:26 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]When I found out he was coming out for the Draft, he was instantly my favorite QB in the draft and I wasn't sure why. Something just told me he has "it". I think he is the type of guy you really like or you really hate. No real middle with him.
When it comes to the QB position, "it" often refers to that natural ability some QB's have to just feel and avoid pressure. It's like they have eyes in the back of their head. Tanner Lee has that.
Tanner has the size, arm strength and leadership ability you want in a starting QB. Sure he has a lot of issues, but they have TWO YEARS to fix those. If Tanner Lee starts the 2020 season, I'm going to have to dig up this thread as one of the few here to think just maybe he can. This year I don't see him stepping on the field outside of the Preseason unless Kessler gets hurt.
It sounds like the expectations of most here are for Tanner to go on the PS. I on board with that as well because I don't see teams scrambling to sign him off the PS this season, however, I caution the expectation because Caldwell practically said point blank after he was drafted that the Jaguars will carry three QBs this year. I don't think he was including the PS.
I wonder why tho. We have been good the last few seasons with 2. Unless they know Kessler isnt the answer at the 2. then why sign him? There is another FA QB better than some starters in this league. Why not sign him?
(05-02-2018, 10:19 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2018, 05:06 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]... because Caldwell practically said point blank after he was drafted that the Jaguars will carry three QBs this year. I don't think he was including the PS.
I wonder why tho. We have been good the last few seasons with 2. Unless they know Kessler isnt the answer at the 2. then why sign him? There is another FA QB better than some starters in this league. Why not sign him?
Caldwell simply said they
could carry three if they wanted to. I heard nothing that sounded like "they will carry three."
I think Lee gets a year on the PS, then another camp (2019) to show what he's learned. If he's improved enough by then he sticks. If he hasn't, he's just another Brandon Allen and on to the next.
FWIW - I think he's got a better shot than Allen did, but I don't really expect much besides flashes against scrubs in preseason for the time being.
(05-01-2018, 05:06 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2018, 02:26 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]When I found out he was coming out for the Draft, he was instantly my favorite QB in the draft and I wasn't sure why. Something just told me he has "it". I think he is the type of guy you really like or you really hate. No real middle with him.
When it comes to the QB position, "it" often refers to that natural ability some QB's have to just feel and avoid pressure. It's like they have eyes in the back of their head. Tanner Lee has that.
Tanner has the size, arm strength and leadership ability you want in a starting QB. Sure he has a lot of issues, but they have TWO YEARS to fix those. If Tanner Lee starts the 2020 season, I'm going to have to dig up this thread as one of the few here to think just maybe he can. This year I don't see him stepping on the field outside of the Preseason unless Kessler gets hurt.
It sounds like the expectations of most here are for Tanner to go on the PS. I on board with that as well because I don't see teams scrambling to sign him off the PS this season, however, I caution the expectation because Caldwell practically said point blank after he was drafted that the Jaguars will carry three QBs this year. I don't think he was including the PS.
Man Lee is absolutely awful against pressure. I'd actually say it's one of his worst attributes.
That's why you heard Caldwell says he's "accurate when kept clean". He has no idea how to process a blitz or pressure
(05-02-2018, 01:02 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-02-2018, 11:35 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Man Lee is absolutely awful against pressure. I'd actually say it's one of his worst attributes.
That's why you heard Caldwell says he's "accurate when kept clean". He has no idea how to process a blitz or pressure
I'm curious what you've seen to make you say this. When I watched his film I could see him standing firm in the pocket while effectively side stepping away from pressure. Now he doesn't have that mobility to take off and get outside when pressure is about to hit home, but from what I've seen he understands how to move around within the pocket to buy a little time. He's certainly not going to turn high-tail and take off running from ghost pressure like Josh Allen.
I think he's talking about having a lower completion % against pressure, not necessarily his "pocket presence."
(05-02-2018, 01:02 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-02-2018, 11:35 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Man Lee is absolutely awful against pressure. I'd actually say it's one of his worst attributes.
That's why you heard Caldwell says he's "accurate when kept clean". He has no idea how to process a blitz or pressure
I'm curious what you've seen to make you say this. When I watched his film I could see him standing firm in the pocket while effectively side stepping away from pressure. Now he doesn't have that mobility to take off and get outside when pressure is about to hit home, but from what I've seen he understands how to move around within the pocket to buy a little time. He's certainly not going to turn high-tail and take off running from ghost pressure like Josh Allen.
Not only does he do quite poorly against pressure but he also invites a lot of it with his movement. Romo has talked before about having "quiet feet" , making small movements to decrease pressure (Tom Brady is a master of it), Lee tends to be all over the place and often steps right into the face of incoming pressure.
I will say that he is tough and has no problem taking a clean hit to get a pass off, but he's easily one of the worst QBs I've seen from his class when it comes to minimizing and dealing with pressure
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