(04-28-2018, 08:03 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: [ -> ]Also if Tanner Lee turns out to be Blake Bortles, then I'd say we got a steal. Cause Blake isn't awful. I mean we did kind of make it to a AFC Championship game with him. And no, he wasn't the major contributing factor, but it also wasn't in spite of him either.
He's nowhere close to Bortles or Kessler. He's more like Jake Locker.
(04-28-2018, 10:35 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 09:51 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]For those that are saying he's not good, can you explain your opinion as to why?
Legit question, not trying to stand up for him, just wondering.
I think most are saying this because the guys on TV were trashing the QB when the Jaguars made the pick.
Absolutely not. Put on some game tapes. Watch him in the Senior Bowl. He was by far the worst QB on the field. He looked like he didn't even belong there. His passes were sailing all over the place.
Someone obviously liked him enough to think he might not be available as an udfa. Good camp body, most likely put on practice squad
(04-29-2018, 08:22 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 08:03 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: [ -> ]Also if Tanner Lee turns out to be Blake Bortles, then I'd say we got a steal. Cause Blake isn't awful. I mean we did kind of make it to a AFC Championship game with him. And no, he wasn't the major contributing factor, but it also wasn't in spite of him either.
He's nowhere close to Bortles or Kessler. He's more like Jake Locker.
(04-28-2018, 10:35 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]I think most are saying this because the guys on TV were trashing the QB when the Jaguars made the pick.
Absolutely not. Put on some game tapes. Watch him in the Senior Bowl. He was by far the worst QB on the field. He looked like he didn't even belong there. His passes were sailing all over the place.
I watched some cutups from that and from the game against Northwestern. In both he seemed to start slow and got a little better as the game went on. Overall, I'd say meh. Mechanics seem pretty inconsistent. He does seem to have a bit of athleticism but doesn't seem to see the field very well and for every "wow" throw he makes, he'll make 3 where you go "what was he thinking?" Actually that does sound like a young Bortles. I guess we'll see in training camp.
I've scoured the internet for film on this guy and I've studied everything as closely as I can.
I see a few consistent yhingt that are good..
His feet move like they're supposed to a d they're fast. Fast feet lol.
He's really good at mid range to deep thdows not so good at. Quick timing route throws.
He already goes through his progressions better and more consistently than Blake does lol..he can and will take a hit when throwing from the pocket..
His upside is tremendous.... .
And I feel he could best Blake out really soon
(04-29-2018, 10:19 AM)diehardjagsfaninsocal Wrote: [ -> ]I've scoured the internet for film on this guy and I've studied everything as closely as I can.
I see a few consistent yhingt that are good..
His feet move like they're supposed to a d they're fast. Fast feet lol.
He's really good at mid range to deep thdows not so good at. Quick timing route throws.
He already goes through his progressions better and more consistently than Blake does lol..he can and will take a hit when throwing from the pocket..
His upside is tremendous.... .
And I feel he could best Blake out really soon
Would have preferred no QB at all. Tanner wasn't even someone I considered. He was lackluster and turnover prone at Nebraska and his completion percentage was garbage even at the college level.
I hope they don't feel obligated to keep him on the roster like they did with Allen as the third man doing nothing on gamedays. Would rather see them keep an extra WR or special teams ace if that's the case.
(04-29-2018, 07:49 AM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ] (04-29-2018, 07:42 AM)BklynJag Wrote: [ -> ]We waited too long to draft a QB.
I'm completely happy with our draft. You really gotta stop whining. You can't get every position you want in the draft or free agency. The jaguars have made the most of their roster the past few years and a trip to the AFC championship game speaks to the results.
Your outlandish takes have been wrong so many times that if I were you, I'd do what most of the more logical posters on this board do and trust our proven successful front office to handle business and not get upset about things out of your control.
Preach my brother
The fact Mayfield was taken first overall illustrates just how overrated this QB class has been all along.
Every drafnick wants to be able to say they "called it."
Unfortunately that means not calling it as it truly is.
Tune out the hype.
(04-29-2018, 08:28 AM)tyus Wrote: [ -> ]Someone obviously liked him enough to think he might not be available as an udfa. Good camp body, most likely put on practice squad
He'll get his chance to win the backup job, but more likely will be 3/ps. He is the definition of developmental, and has the tools you want in such a prospect.
Listening to the videos from Cough-Well it sounds like they have a pretty good idea as to what they have in Lee. Eric Price our offensive assistant coach was the offensive coordinator at Tulane when Lee was there and it sounds like they relied heavily on his opinion.
(04-29-2018, 07:37 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]Listening to the videos from Cough-Well it sounds like they have a pretty good idea as to what they have in Lee. Eric Price our offensive assistant coach was the offensive coordinator at Tulane when Lee was there and it sounds like they relied heavily on his opinion.
They need to fire him.
OH NO! We didn't draft Tom Brady in the 6th!!!!! There are clearly other good quarterbacks who are available in the 6th round for no reason! Or clearly some player who would make the roster for sure! Sheesh, what were they thinking? I'm so dissapointed. :{
(04-29-2018, 11:49 PM)VisitingCobra Wrote: [ -> ]OH NO! We didn't draft Tom Brady in the 6th!!!!! There are clearly other good quarterbacks who are available in the 6th round for no reason! Or clearly some player who would make the roster for sure! Sheesh, what were they thinking? I'm so dissapointed. :{
It's all about his upside. There are enough impressive traits to think he could develop, and they know they'll have at least a good two years to work with him.
For now I'm not expecting him to even beat out Kessler. I see Tanner hanging on as the 3rd string as he methodically fine-tunes his game.
If you don't think he has anything to work with, you're not really watching. He's got a very natural pocket presence with a good feel for pressure... he's got a fantastic, strong arm able to make all throws with beautiful passes... he looks the part with an impressive, big frame, and he's known for his toughness and leadership... he understands how to go through progressions to find the guy getting opening downfield.
With two years to work on him I don't see why there's no chance we salvage him. Most of issues are mental and correctable.
(04-28-2018, 05:15 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]He's a late 6th round pick with upside? I don't understand the issue. Most 6th and 7th round picks don't even make final rosters.
He's not here to replace Blake.
No kidding. 6'4" - 220 pounds -- strong arm. bad college coaching.
heck, it's worth a shot.
(04-28-2018, 05:50 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]This seems like a total wasted pick. We are going with Bortles and Kessler. All we need are camp arms. And there will be a ton of undrafted free agents you can sign to do that.
Havent been a fan of our two picks so far in day 3.
It's a sixth round pick. On a roster this good, odds are that ANY pick in the 6th round doesn't make the roster, and best case scenario, winds up on the practice squad. This isn't a guy they're expecting to come in and compete for a starting role, or even to be the backup QB. Because his former offensive coordinator is on the staff, the team had some additional insight into his potential with time to develop. There's nothing wrong with having a guy you can develop. It certainly isn't a wasted pick.
(04-28-2018, 06:02 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]Stop panicking... it might not be so bad.
We say he sucks because his stats sucked, but a lot might have played into that.
Watch him on tape. He has a strong, impressive arm with tons of poise in the pocket. Now you don't want him scrambling, but he's got that ability to feel and side-step pressure, and his mechanics appear solid. He also has the size and looks the part.
He's probably third string this year, and we probably don't even need to get a good look at him until mid-season 2019 at the earliest if we're not winning games. I was calling for Luke Falk who the tacks got, but he doesn't have anywhere near the arm strength of Tanner Lee. Let's just see if our staff can work with the guy. They picked him over several other QBs for a reason.
I think his most likely trajectory lands him on the practice squad. The team doesn't need to carry 3 QBs on the active roster.
(04-28-2018, 10:26 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 09:51 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]For those that are saying he's not good, can you explain your opinion as to why?
Legit question, not trying to stand up for him, just wondering.
His comp% is terrible. And his TD/INT ratio is terrible. Also, he is very immobile. It's a very peculiar selection.
It's not a peculiar selection at all when you listen to Coughlin's comments on the pick.
(04-29-2018, 07:40 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (04-29-2018, 07:37 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]Listening to the videos from Cough-Well it sounds like they have a pretty good idea as to what they have in Lee. Eric Price our offensive assistant coach was the offensive coordinator at Tulane when Lee was there and it sounds like they relied heavily on his opinion.
They need to fire him.
Solid take as always. You're like an encyclopedia of football knowledge.
(04-30-2018, 09:41 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 05:15 PM)Achilles Wrote: [ -> ]He's a late 6th round pick with upside? I don't understand the issue. Most 6th and 7th round picks don't even make final rosters.
He's not here to replace Blake.
No kidding. 6'4" - 220 pounds -- strong arm. bad college coaching.
heck, it's worth a shot.
The armchair message board GMs know they could have found Tom Brady with this pick, and Coughlin went and screwed it up. The guy is clearly clueless when it comes to making personnel decisions, right?
Complaining about a 6th round pick is par for the course with the drama queen segment of the Jaguars fan base. The chances of a late round pick actually making the roster with the current team is slim to none, so they've picked a guy who has the potential to wind up on the practice squad developing his skills and working with NFL coaches/players. This is definitely something we should complain loudly about.
Irrelevant. No QB draft pick was gonna come here and get any burn over the 2019 Super Bowl MVP anyways.
(04-28-2018, 06:06 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]He's really not that bad. Check out his game vs Purdue...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxqmKsLMSxQ
Constant over throws and doesnt lead the receiver well. He throws too many, "hope it gets there" balls for me. he has the arm strength to force it in but his decision making is worse than Blake's to be honest. Just happen to be playing college where the corners at Purdue are not that good.
(04-30-2018, 10:31 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]I think his most likely trajectory lands him on the practice squad. The team doesn't need to carry 3 QBs on the active roster.
I'm not so sure. The media guys specifically asked Caldwell if the plan is to carry 3 QBs on the active roster, and he said "Yeah, we'll open it up to 3 QBs."
For those of you complaining about the pick, who would you have selected out of the available players left on the board?
(04-30-2018, 10:48 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2018, 06:06 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]He's really not that bad. Check out his game vs Purdue...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxqmKsLMSxQ
Constant over throws and doesnt lead the receiver well. He throws too many, "hope it gets there" balls for me. he has the arm strength to force it in but his decision making is worse than Blake's to be honest. Just happen to be playing college where the corners at Purdue are not that good.
His body type, form and release strongly resemble Philip Rivers.