No way do you play to lose.....not even sure how that's done.
I am interested how you tell a team of NFL players....
who have always played to win.... to do that?
It was a win an ugly one but a win nonetheless.
I'd rather win out and keep morale high and give this team hope for next season. As far as the draft, let the chips fall when they may. Mahomes was drafted at 10
pounding sand would hurt. dang. especially if there are shells there as well.
The 2019 Draft will not have any top 5 QB's and maybe not even a top 10.
I was glad to see that the players have not given up on the season. I am fine with the team win or lose, I just don't want to see us get blown out over the remaining games.
There was a lot of quit in this squad during that last regime, and I don't ever want to go back to that.
Honestly, if we ended up at 4 or 6 in the draft, I very much expected us to overdraft a position of need, so this may work out in the long run.
(12-02-2018, 09:13 PM)krauley Wrote: [ -> ]Brady was selected with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL Draft.
Because Tom Brady's are available in every round of every draft?
(12-02-2018, 10:39 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote: [ -> ]My brain says the season is lost and playing for the highest draft pick is smart strategy.
But my heart says JUST WIN BABY! Shutting out the clots and severely damaging their wild card hopes is priceless.
This sums up my perspective exactly.
If we win now we may lose out later but I enjoy every victory.
One thing is for sure, Tom Coughlin isn't concerned about draft status. I haven't seen him that happy in a while
This is just the opinion of a broom, but I was glad to see that ugly [BLEEP] Andrew [bleep] get shutout.
Maybe (probably) we can start the losing this week.
Oh well, time to get back to #Sweeping. Only a couple days to finish the job
(12-02-2018, 08:37 PM)Nikowho Wrote: [ -> ]I know only one thing for certain; I will NEVER want to see this team lose to the colts, either in a tanking manner or by just sheer incompetence.
I'll take a win over them any day of the week, thank you. Call me petty, but any day we can watch the Jags stack the deck against the colts winning the division is a good day.
Even years ago when Indy purposely rested players in Week 17 in attempt to get the #1 draft pick so they could take Andrew Luck? Had we lost that game, the Colts would have taken RG III with the #2 pick
I enjoyed the win while also knowing it would be better for the team long-term if we lost.
Don't think there's anything wrong with either views. QBs are too important.
(12-02-2018, 08:39 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-02-2018, 07:05 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]I'll never bash anyone who feels like you, but I'll also never bash anyone who realizes we just went from what would have been 3rd or 4th pick in the draft to 9th. That could easily cost us a franchise changing QB. There are multiple angles to look at it.
No matter where we pick, the Jaguars can always move up by trading away picks. See what the Jets did with Sanchez or what the Chiefs did with Mahommes. The list goes on.
You always play to win the game. You can always move up. You can’t always move down though.
Huh?
You can't always move up.
We have picked at the top of the draft for years and really hasn't produced great results. Forget the draft, I want to see wins. Stomp on the titans thursday too
All the so called fans that want us to lose so we can somehow end up with a better draft position should take note that this franchise has never actually drafted a franchise QB. Leftwitch, Gabbert, and Bortles have all been Top 10 draft picks and none of them have worked out.
I also don't have a lot of confidence with the current regime as they are 0-1 when it comes to franchise QB picks, so I'd rather try and win and see how everything shakes out.
(12-02-2018, 10:29 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (12-02-2018, 09:13 PM)krauley Wrote: [ -> ]Brady was selected with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL Draft.
Bad example. He was a once in a lifetime QB.
How about Mahomes and Watson? Drew Brees? Russell Wilson? Aaron Rodgers? Matt Ryan?
(12-03-2018, 04:24 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ] (12-02-2018, 10:29 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Bad example. He was a once in a lifetime QB.
How about Mahomes and Watson? Drew Brees? Russell Wilson? Aaron Rodgers? Matt Ryan?
1st rounder. 1st rounder. Top of the 2nd. 3rd rounder. 1st rounder. 3rd overall.
The only point people are trying to make is that having a higher draft pick gives you the better chance to take the player you want. There are more players to choose from giving you the better chance to nail the pick.
I understand you're trying to prove a point that QBs can come from all over but of the 32 opening day starters, 24 of them were 1st rounders and 16 of those were top 10 picks. A couple more just outside the top 10.
(12-03-2018, 10:04 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]pounding sand would hurt. dang. especially if there are shells there as well.
Or glass fragments in the sand like Tung Po
(12-03-2018, 04:31 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (12-03-2018, 04:24 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]How about Mahomes and Watson? Drew Brees? Russell Wilson? Aaron Rodgers? Matt Ryan?
1st rounder. 1st rounder. Top of the 2nd. 3rd rounder. 1st rounder. 3rd overall.
The only point people are trying to make is that having a higher draft pick gives you the better chance to take the player you want. There are more players to choose from giving you the better chance to nail the pick.
I understand you're trying to prove a point that QBs can come from all over but of the 32 opening day starters, 24 of them were 1st rounders and 16 of those were top 10 picks. A couple more just outside the top 10.
My point is you don’t have to have a top 10 pick to find your guy. You DO need to find your guy in the first round to have the best chance AND have a FO smart enough to identify those guys, but it doesn’t have to be a top pick.
I never object to winning. But I also understand that the winning could come at the cost of having a possible QB replacement available. It's one of those weird choice/results/future things. Both sides have their positives; but nothing is guaranteed in the draft either. So I guess we'll see what happens down the road.