I want you to post your 2022 lineup, supposing you were the new GM and were able to get the free agents/rookies you wanted this offseason. I made a very unrealistic one in the other subforum but i'm curious what the other posters here would go for.
It's obviously too early to know which free agents will be tagged/retained. It's also way to early to accurately predict where most players in the draft will end up but I tried my best to make it realistic as possible. Obviously free agency will likely have a few more additions of lesser known/depth guys but I tried to show where my focus would be if I was the GM.
Cuts/Let walk/traded
Cam Robinson
Andrew Wingard
Damien Wilson
Tavon Austin
Carlos Hyde
James O'Shag
Free Agent signings:
WR Davante Adams
G Brandon Scherff
S Marcus Williams
TE Mike Gaseki
NFL Draft:
1 - 1. Edge Kayvon Thibbedeux
2 - 33. C Tyler Linderbaum
3 - 65. T Nicholas Petit-Frere
3 - 71. MLB Chad Muma
Starting Lineup 2022
QB. Trevor Lawrence
RB. ETN / Robinson / Late draft pick
WR. Davante Adams, DJ Chark, Marvin Jones, Laviska Shenault
TE. Mike Gaeski, Dan Arnold, Manhertz/Hollister
LT. Walker Little
G. Andrew Norwell
C. Linderbaum
G. Brandon Scherff
RT. Nicholas Petit-frere
Dline/Edge Rushers. Josh Allen, Devon Hamilton / Malcom Brown, Kayvon Thibbedeux
Safeties. Andre Cisco, Marcus Williams
CBs. Tyson Campbell, Shaq Griffin, Tre Herndon / Late draft pick
ILBs Myles Jack, Chad Muma
Why are you expecting us to sign Davante Adams if it's supposed to be somewhat realistic?
(01-05-2022, 04:37 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]Why are you expecting us to sign Davante Adams if it's supposed to be somewhat realistic?
I don't know Davante Adams personally but if he wants the most money, and our next gm wants a top tier Wr it can definitely happen. If he's more concerned with winning than money (which I feel is less likely) then we wont get him.
Offense:
QB- Trevor Lawrence
RB- James Conner/James Robinson/Travis Etienne
WR- Mike Williams/John Metchie III/Michael Gallup/Jamal Agnew/Jayden Reed/Justyn Ross
TE- Dan Arnold/Charlie Kolar/Grant Calcaterra
LT- Terron Armstead
LG- Andrew Norwell
C- Brandon Linder
RG- Ben Bartch
RT- Abraham Lucas
Defense:
DE- Kayvon Thibodeaux/Josh Allen/Chandler Jones/Calais Campbell/Randy Gregory/Dawuane Smoot
DT- DaVon Hamilton/Malcolm Brown/Jay Tufele/John Ridgeway
ILB- Chad Muma
OLB- Myles Jack/Lerentee McCray
CB- Tyson Campbell/Rudy Ford/Shaquill Griffin/Garrett Williams
SS- Jalen Pitre
FS- Andre Cisco
This is factoring in all of the 11 picks Jacksonville will have in the draft. I bolded the rookies.
(01-05-2022, 04:00 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]I want you to post your 2022 lineup, supposing you were the new GM and were able to get the free agents/rookies you wanted this offseason. I made a very unrealistic one in the other subforum but i'm curious what the other posters here would go for.
It's obviously too early to know which free agents will be tagged/retained. It's also way to early to accurately predict where most players in the draft will end up but I tried my best to make it realistic as possible. Obviously free agency will likely have a few more additions of lesser known/depth guys but I tried to show where my focus would be if I was the GM.
Cuts/Let walk/traded
Cam Robinson - Only if Little plays well next week and we draft Neal. You move him to RT otherwise.
Andrew Wingard - Why?
Damien Wilson
Tavon Austin
Carlos Hyde
James O'Shag
Free Agent signings:
WR Davante Adams - Will get tagged
G Brandon Scherff
S Marcus Williams
TE Mike Gaseki
NFL Draft:
1 - 1. Edge Kayvon Thibbedeux
2 - 33. C Tyler Linderbaum
3 - 65. T Nicholas Petit-Frere
3 - 71. MLB Chad Muma
Starting Lineup 2022
QB. Trevor Lawrence
RB. ETN / Robinson / Late draft pick
WR. Davante Adams, DJ Chark, Marvin Jones, Laviska Shenault
TE. Mike Gaeski, Dan Arnold, Manhertz/Hollister
LT. Walker Little
G. Andrew Norwell - Id be looking for his replacement too.
C. Linderbaum - Old and needs to be ushered out of the lineup asap. Injury prone and skills degrading.
G. Brandon Scherff
RT. Nicholas Petit-frere
Dline/Edge Rushers. Josh Allen, Devon Hamilton / Malcom Brown, Kayvon Thibbedeux
Safeties. Andre Cisco, Marcus Williams
CBs. Tyson Campbell, Shaq Griffin, Tre Herndon / Late draft pick
ILBs Myles Jack, Chad Muma - Jack is trash in a 3-4, and I expect him to be gone this or next off season if we stick with that scheme.
The FA list is nice, but you assume free agents will come here, the reality likely is we won't get even 1/3 of the signings on this list. I really don't get some of your cuts/released players, bit that's fine no massive losses there. This team will need to build through the draft though, can't afford to let guys walk right now and FA is a wash until we start winning with the talent we draft.
(01-05-2022, 09:11 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2022, 04:00 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Andrew Wingard - Why?
I assume because he sucks.
(01-05-2022, 08:31 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Offense:
QB- Trevor Lawrence
RB- James Conner/James Robinson/Travis Etienne
WR- Mike Williams/John Metchie III/Michael Gallup/Jamal Agnew/Jayden Reed/Justyn Ross
TE- Dan Arnold/Charlie Kolar/Grant Calcaterra
LT- Terron Armstead
LG- Andrew Norwell
C- Brandon Linder
RG- Ben Bartch
RT- Abraham Lucas
Defense:
DE- Kayvon Thibodeaux/Josh Allen/Chandler Jones/Calais Campbell/Randy Gregory/Dawuane Smoot
DT- DaVon Hamilton/Malcolm Brown/Jay Tufele/John Ridgeway
ILB- Chad Muma
OLB- Myles Jack/Lerentee McCray
CB- Tyson Campbell/Rudy Ford/Shaquill Griffin/Garrett Williams
SS- Jalen Pitre
FS- Andre Cisco
This is factoring in all of the 11 picks Jacksonville will have in the draft. I bolded the rookies.
FYI, Jayden Reed announced yesterday that he was staying at Michigan State for another year.
It makes completely perfect sense that your "somewhat realistic" scenario includes 3 blue chip FA and drafting a guy who is constantly ranked in the top half of the first round at 33 when contrasting it to your critiques of Trevor. You do not live in a somewhat realistic reality.
(01-05-2022, 04:37 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ]Why are you expecting us to sign Davante Adams if it's supposed to be somewhat realistic?
He doesn't have a clue what that means
Somewhat realistic? Cut Hyde. Trade Jack.
Figure out Little's place on the line. Once you do that, target either LT or RT. That may be offering Cam a long-term deal, it may be a different FA. Regardless, replace Taylor.
Bring in a good RB. Etienne and JRob both are coming back from significant injury. We have no guarantee of their recovery to prior form or their sustained durability. Can't have too many RB, as we've seen, injury is likely to deplete the depth over the course of 18 weeks.
Get a MLB who is going to run your D. Jack was terribly miscast, Scho was traded for peanuts, and Wilson has been serviceable at best.
Get a WR who is going to be TLaw's go-to guy for duration of each player's career.
It's time to move on from Linder/Shatley, bring in their replacement. This may be week 1 replacement or a gradual development over the season.
Not gonna pose specific names, because there's a number of guys that can fill those roles, whether by FA or the darft. Those are the priorities. Take care of those, and the rest of the moves will take care of themselves.
I don't think Linderbaum makes it to the 33rd pick, unfortunately. I wish he did!
Realistic?
Here's what I think they head to camp with:
Tackles to compete: Little + FA signing + 3rd/4th round pick , fodder
Guards to compete: FA signing + FA signing + 4th/5th rd draft pick + Bartch , fodder
C: Linder and re-sign Shatley to a 2yr deal , fodder
QB: same as 2021
WR: FA + FA + early pick + Jones, Shenault, Agnew & re-sign Treadwell to a cheap deal, fodder
RB: Etienne, J Rob, Mid-Tier FA, Late rd pick, UDFA (keeping Armstead and/or Ogbunwale optional)
TE: Get one of the better FA options and draft one late to add to Arnold + Farrell and Manhertz still under contract
Defense:
DT: Brown/Hamilton/Tufele/ FA signing
DE/OLB: Early pick/ Allen/ Smoot/ last year's pick/ fodder
MLB: God only knows, but they need to get better there
(edit:Quarterman, Jack and Moses should be in camp - but really - Jack should be traded to play Will somewhere in a 4-3)
CB: Campbell, Griffin, FA signing, Claybrooks, late pick
S: Cisco, Jenkins, Ford , Thomas, late pick, fodder
ST
Cooke + fodder
New kicker - maybe use one of those extra 6th rounders and sign one off the street too and let them compete
TLDR: We need to be very active in free agency
(01-05-2022, 11:15 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Realistic?
Here's what I think they head to camp with:
Guards to compete: FA signing + FA signing + 4th/5th rd draft pick + Bartch , fodder
I think that's extremely accurate even to the point of when we should draft what, except for this one. There are going to be a ton of starting caliber guards in the 3rd round. I think that will be the prime spot to fill one of them, along with one FA signing (Laken or Williams plz).
Haahahaha
Somewhat realistic.
"Ok. First. We get arguably the best WR in football. Then one of the best guards in football."
Suuuuuuure. Jags couldn't even get Jonnu Smith or Hunter Henry but NOW? After a 2-15 season.... They nab Adams. Get real.
(01-05-2022, 11:29 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Haahahaha
Somewhat realistic.
"Ok. First. We get arguably the best WR in football. Then one of the best guards in football."
Suuuuuuure. Jags couldn't even get Jonnu Smith or Hunter Henry but NOW? After a 2-15 season.... They nab Adams. Get real.
Are you kidding me. We landed the #1 TE in Free Agency last season in Manhertz, nailed the sleeper pick Colin Farrell in round 5, and locked up Tebow as a supplemental free agent signing. There was no room for Hunter Henry or Jonnu Smith on our roster. They would have been cut on day 1 of training camp.
Davonte Adams has indicated that he wants to come to Jacksonville, citing the fact that our city has a vast amount of sporting events like the FL-GA Game and TaxSlayer Bowl to keep him busy after the team has been eliminated from playoff contention.
(01-05-2022, 12:39 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2022, 11:29 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Haahahaha
Somewhat realistic.
"Ok. First. We get arguably the best WR in football. Then one of the best guards in football."
Suuuuuuure. Jags couldn't even get Jonnu Smith or Hunter Henry but NOW? After a 2-15 season.... They nab Adams. Get real.
Are you kidding me. We landed the #1 TE in Free Agency last season in Manhertz, nailed the sleeper pick Colin Farrell in round 5, and locked up Tebow as a supplemental free agent signing. There was no room for Hunter Henry or Jonnu Smith on our roster. They would have been cut on day 1 of training camp.
Davonte Adams has indicated that he wants to come to Jacksonville, citing the fact that our city has a vast amount of sporting events like the FL-GA Game and TaxSlayer Bowl to keep him busy after the team has been eliminated from playoff contention.
Don’t forget the monster truck show.
(01-05-2022, 12:41 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2022, 12:39 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Are you kidding me. We landed the #1 TE in Free Agency last season in Manhertz, nailed the sleeper pick Colin Farrell in round 5, and locked up Tebow as a supplemental free agent signing. There was no room for Hunter Henry or Jonnu Smith on our roster. They would have been cut on day 1 of training camp.
Davonte Adams has indicated that he wants to come to Jacksonville, citing the fact that our city has a vast amount of sporting events like the FL-GA Game and TaxSlayer Bowl to keep him busy after the team has been eliminated from playoff contention.
Don’t forget the monster truck show.
LOL, compared to Green Bay, Jax is an entertainment mecca.
QB. Trevor Lawrence
RB. Robinson
WR. Anyone else
TE. Dan Arnold
LT. Walker Little
G. Anyone else
C. Shatley
G. Anyone else
RT. Anyone else
Defence:
DL Anyone else
LB Anyone else
DB cisco, cample, and Anyone else
I think we must retain chark, even if have to overpay. Next, get a top free agent WR and some free agency o-line.
(01-05-2022, 11:23 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-05-2022, 11:15 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Realistic?
Here's what I think they head to camp with:
Guards to compete: FA signing + FA signing + 4th/5th rd draft pick + Bartch , fodder
I think that's extremely accurate even to the point of when we should draft what, except for this one. There are going to be a ton of starting caliber guards in the 3rd round. I think that will be the prime spot to fill one of them, along with one FA signing (Laken or Williams plz).
What are your thoughts on MLB?
I haven't taken the time to try getting my head around that one yet. Obviously Quarterman, Jack and Moses should be in camp, but who else do they add? I guess they have to take a swing in FA like they did with Wilson.