(01-10-2022, 11:53 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (01-10-2022, 11:24 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]No not very many. Times-Union said the stadium was full of clowns which it clearly wasn't but oh well. We had three guys in front of us with clown wigs but they had taken them off by the third quarter. Meaningless win really but enjoyable anyway, you got to take the positives any way you can get them.
There were a lot more than people here are giving credit for. There were very few in full clown gear but a lot of people had red noses, wigs, bow ties, etc.
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Not from what I could see, unless they were taking their noses or bow ties off when I happened to look at them. Maybe a couple hundred in the entire stadium.
(01-10-2022, 01:03 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (01-10-2022, 11:53 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]There were a lot more than people here are giving credit for. There were very few in full clown gear but a lot of people had red noses, wigs, bow ties, etc.
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Not from what I could see, unless they were taking their noses or bow ties off when I happened to look at them. Maybe a couple hundred in the entire stadium.
Even if there were 1k out of 60k seats, that's so few people.
It's like thinking this message board is the voice of the fan base
We're a very small sect of a wide fan base. Many of whom probably are more level headed than the type of people who live on message boards all day every day lol
While Khan has much to learn about the NFL to think that a few thousand angry fans on the internet could have any sway is just laughable. Clown outfits, billboards, protests.... unless the stadium is empty and jerseys and gear ain't selling, your voice won't be heard. And even then, not sure it'll move the needle that much for a billionaire.
The clown attire people really just made a joke of themselves. We're laughing at you, not with you.
(01-08-2022, 10:03 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2022, 09:53 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I'm trying to remember if a franchise has ever moved because of lack of fan support, when that lack of support is so obviously caused by owner incompetence.
Great question. I don't know off the top of my head. I am only 33. I don't remember why the Browns bolted for Baltimore. I vaguely remember the Oilers moving out of Houston. Other than the Rams moving because of Kronke which I think was over the stadium issues. I don't recall.
Interesting article though from 2019. According to this there's very little fan support for the WFT, and, a lot of Cincinnati and Detroit teams were listed in it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/201.../39667999/
St. Louis pretty much quit giving a crap about the Cardinals a couple years or so before they moved to Arizona. Bill Bidwell made it way to clear that he only wanted to win just enough to fill the stands and NOT make the playoffs because it would cost him a few extra bucks to support a playoff team. St. Louis quit on that.
Arizona ALMost quit on it... Took Bidwell about 20 years of limping along in a borrowed college stadium before finally getting one built for his team. The team never really got any better until his son(s) started running things though.
(01-13-2022, 04:58 PM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ]St. Louis pretty much quit giving a crap about the Cardinals a couple years or so before they moved to Arizona. Bill Bidwell made it way to clear that he only wanted to win just enough to fill the stands and NOT make the playoffs because it would cost him a few extra bucks to support a playoff team. St. Louis quit on that.
Arizona ALMost quit on it... Took Bidwell about 20 years of limping along in a borrowed college stadium before finally getting one built for his team. The team never really got any better until his son(s) started running things though.
So you're saying that in about 10 years when Tony starts running the show, we have a shot to be better?
(01-12-2022, 01:20 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (01-10-2022, 01:03 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]Not from what I could see, unless they were taking their noses or bow ties off when I happened to look at them. Maybe a couple hundred in the entire stadium.
Even if there were 1k out of 60k seats, that's so few people.
It's like thinking this message board is the voice of the fan base
We're a very small sect of a wide fan base. Many of whom probably are more level headed than the type of people who live on message boards all day every day lol
While Khan has much to learn about the NFL to think that a few thousand angry fans on the internet could have any sway is just laughable. Clown outfits, billboards, protests.... unless the stadium is empty and jerseys and gear ain't selling, your voice won't be heard. And even then, not sure it'll move the needle that much for a billionaire.
The clown attire people really just made a joke of themselves. We're laughing at you, not with you.
naw, they did a good thing. More power to them.
(01-13-2022, 06:42 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ] (01-13-2022, 04:58 PM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ]St. Louis pretty much quit giving a crap about the Cardinals a couple years or so before they moved to Arizona. Bill Bidwell made it way to clear that he only wanted to win just enough to fill the stands and NOT make the playoffs because it would cost him a few extra bucks to support a playoff team. St. Louis quit on that.
Arizona ALMost quit on it... Took Bidwell about 20 years of limping along in a borrowed college stadium before finally getting one built for his team. The team never really got any better until his son(s) started running things though.
So you're saying that in about 10 years when Tony starts running the show, we have a shot to be better?
Yeah, that's the long game lol. Fortunately for us, Shad's failures aren't for lack of trying. Hopefully he 'gets it right' before it comes to that.