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(03-13-2022, 01:35 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 01:28 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]If MJJ is the #1 WR for the Jags next season, it’ll be a failure.

What if it's Juju?

Just Juju?

I would need Juju (who I think would be good here) and someone else. 

Marvin should be WR3 for the Jags next season.

(03-13-2022, 01:33 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 01:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]  If he was an old slow and not any good than sure.  But hes still good and our best WR.  Who do you want to replace Jones?

He was our best WR because Chark was hurt most of the year and he (Jones) knew much of the offense.  Hell last year, Laquan Treadwell, a bust who was signed mid season, made a key contribution.

Jamal Agnew, a converted DB/special teamer, made contributions at WR.

Jones was the best of a bad group.  Part of an offense that set franchise marks for offensive ineptitude.

There are plenty who could replace Jones.

I'd welcome Chark back.

Christian Kirk is younger and faster.

There are rookies that could have a bigger impact, but I don't trust Baalke to be able to find them.

I would even argue that Agnew was our best receiver last season before he got hurt. 

Totally agree.

(03-13-2022, 01:29 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 11:14 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Jones is the only one that can catch on the team and still had over 830 yards being the number 1 WR and being guarded by the teams best corner.  If he gets bumped to the number 2 WR and we get a good slot WR and Ertz,  Jones could be a good number 2 and put up around 100 yards with 10 TDs as he has proven time and time again.  He oozed better and better late in the season when him and Trev finally started to build a connection.

Umm....... Jones played 17 games last season. 830 yards receiving is less than 50 yards receiving per game. Is that all you expect out of your #1 receiver? Seriously? Less than 50 yards per game would be poor numbers even for a #2.

You confuse yourself pretty easy, where did I say 830 yards per game  for a number 1 is good?  Jones was going against the best corner and nobody around him to help.  I like Jones on the outside.  If you bring in another outside WR like a Watson or a A Rob, add a good slot, add a Ertz it will make Jones life a lot easier and give him more opportunities.  He has been one of the most consistent WRs in the league for most of his career.  Last year was the first year he was asked to be WR1, he was brought in to be WR 2 but Chark went down.  He is a WR2 and has been a pretty good one for most of his career, you have to give him some help

(03-13-2022, 01:35 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 01:28 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]If MJJ is the #1 WR for the Jags next season, it’ll be a failure.

What if it's Juju?

JuJu is just a guy. He is an immature kid who would rather play around on Tik Tok than focus on football. He would bring absolutely nothing to this team. This is a very, very, very poor free agent WR class. We HAVE TO make a trade for a WR.

(03-13-2022, 01:39 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 01:35 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]What if it's Juju?

Just Juju?

I would need Juju (who I think would be good here) and someone else. 

Marvin should be WR3 for the Jags next season.

Juju and a pick at 33. Say Juju and Pickens?

(03-13-2022, 01:39 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 01:35 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]What if it's Juju?

Just Juju?

I would need Juju (who I think would be good here) and someone else. 

Marvin should be WR3 for the Jags next season.

You want Marvin in the slot?  I think he's best on the outside.  I want a faster, quicker, shiftier,, WR in the slot.  Has Jones ever been a slot WR?

(03-13-2022, 01:45 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 01:39 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Just Juju?

I would need Juju (who I think would be good here) and someone else. 

Marvin should be WR3 for the Jags next season.

Juju and a pick at 33. Say Juju and Pickens?

That would be about the worst possible combo I could think of.

I'd be ok with Juju, high risk high reward. Before I signed him I'd ask him to limit his social media [BLEEP]. Juju would be a great slot, with Jones on the outside opposite Watson, Pickens, or A Rob

(03-13-2022, 01:42 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 01:29 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Umm....... Jones played 17 games last season. 830 yards receiving is less than 50 yards receiving per game. Is that all you expect out of your #1 receiver? Seriously? Less than 50 yards per game would be poor numbers even for a #2.

You confuse yourself pretty easy, where did I say 830 yards per game  for a number 1 is good?  Jones was going against the best corner and nobody around him to help.  I like Jones on the outside.  If you bring in another outside WR like a Watson or a A Rob, add a good slot, add a Ertz it will make Jones life a lot easier and give him more opportunities.  He has been one of the most consistent WRs in the league for most of his career.  Last year was the first year he was asked to be WR1, he was brought in to be WR 2 but Chark went down.  He is a WR2 and has been a pretty good one for most of his career, you have to give him some help

And let's not forget he was playing that 1-role with a rookie QB who wasn't always making the best reads and decisions with the ball. And how many great highlight--reel catches did Marvin make last season? He's a great No. 2.

I don't like the idea of Jones playing in the slot

(03-13-2022, 02:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I don't like the idea of Jones playing in the slot

Huh?!?

You were just talking about how productive Jones was last year.

He played a ton of slot.

(03-13-2022, 02:07 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 02:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I don't like the idea of Jones playing in the slot

Huh?!?

You were just talking about how productive Jones was last year.

He played a ton of slot.

Did he?  What %.  Most I remember he was on the outside.  I usually remember Agnew, Arnold, and Viska in the slot. In Detriot he was usually opposite Golladay

(03-13-2022, 01:46 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 01:39 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Just Juju?

I would need Juju (who I think would be good here) and someone else. 

Marvin should be WR3 for the Jags next season.

You want Marvin in the slot?  I think he's best on the outside.  I want a faster, quicker, shiftier,, WR in the slot.  Has Jones ever been a slot WR?

WR3 doesn’t mean he’s playing in the slot. It just means he’s the 3rd option.

Juju would be in the slot with Marvin and hopefully another vet outside.

(03-13-2022, 02:22 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 01:46 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]You want Marvin in the slot?  I think he's best on the outside.  I want a faster, quicker, shiftier,, WR in the slot.  Has Jones ever been a slot WR?

WR3 doesn’t mean he’s playing in the slot. It just means he’s the 3rd option.

Juju on be in the slot with Marvin and hopefully another vet outside.

When you look on a depth chart WR 3 is the guy in the slot.  If my 3rd WR has 900+ yards we will be in the playoffs and have one of the best WR groups in the league.  I'm good with that

(03-13-2022, 02:29 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 02:22 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]WR3 doesn’t mean he’s playing in the slot. It just means he’s the 3rd option.

Juju on be in the slot with Marvin and hopefully another vet outside.

When you look on a depth chart WR 3 is the guy in the slot.  If my 3rd WR has 900+ yards we will be in the playoffs and have one of the best WR groups in the league.  I'm good with that

You really think Marvin (at 32 years old) can get 900 yards as a 3rd option? No chance.

Not to mention, last night you said you would be ok walking into next season with Marvin as WR1 as long as they upgraded LB and OLine.

(03-13-2022, 03:17 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 02:29 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]When you look on a depth chart WR 3 is the guy in the slot.  If my 3rd WR has 900+ yards we will be in the playoffs and have one of the best WR groups in the league.  I'm good with that

You really think Marvin (at 32 years old) can get 900 yards as a 3rd option? No chance.

Not to mention, last night you said you would be ok walking into next season with Marvin as WR1 as long as they upgraded LB and OLine.

Easily yes, he almost did as WR 1 last year with no help around him, Trevor will find the open WR and MJ can get open.   No I didn't, I said I would draft WR 1 at 33.  Watson or Pickens. I said i would be ok if we didn't get a WR in FA if we upgraded the oline , TE, and LB instead over crazy overpaying a WR. Maybe even trade up depending on how FA goes and how the draft is falling

I have a feeling we waited to late to resign Chark

(03-13-2022, 06:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I have a feeling we waited to late to resign Chark

I have a sinking feeling about this free agency period. I sincerely hope it's my accustomed Jaguars pessimism.

(03-13-2022, 07:17 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2022, 06:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I have a feeling we waited to late to resign Chark

I have a sinking feeling about this free agency period. I sincerely hope it's my accustomed Jaguars pessimism.

Shad asked for it.

Chark reportedly is in Las Vegas. Not sure if it's business or pleasure.