(02-08-2022, 12:27 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2022, 11:40 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I guess if we filtered out all the nonsensical statements on this message board there wouldn't be much left. But seriously- It sounds to you like he knows he will never be the same? What?
Seen it before time and time again. Michael Sims-Walker, Dee Dee Westbrook, Marquise Lee ..... Chark will never be the same. Trust me. I know. I watch a lot of medical shows on Hulu
WRs are like a dime a dozen. Just go get some small quick shifty good route running WRs and we'll be fine.
Filtering out non-sensical statements would definitely put an end to this board ....
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Everyone says this.
I wish they wouldn't, because the Jaguars spent most of its history without quality WRs that are supposedly so plentiful.
(02-11-2022, 03:58 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2022, 12:27 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Seen it before time and time again. Michael Sims-Walker, Dee Dee Westbrook, Marquise Lee ..... Chark will never be the same. Trust me. I know. I watch a lot of medical shows on Hulu
WRs are like a dime a dozen. Just go get some small quick shifty good route running WRs and we'll be fine.
Filtering out non-sensical statements would definitely put an end to this board ....
(emphasis added)
Everyone says this.
I wish they wouldn't, because the Jaguars spent most of it's history without quality WRs that are supposedly so plentiful.
I couldn't agree more. Perhaps the 3, 4, 5 guys are pretty much interchangeable, but if you don' t have the #1 and #2 guys, you're screwed.
(02-11-2022, 03:58 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (02-08-2022, 12:27 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Seen it before time and time again. Michael Sims-Walker, Dee Dee Westbrook, Marquise Lee ..... Chark will never be the same. Trust me. I know. I watch a lot of medical shows on Hulu
WRs are like a dime a dozen. Just go get some small quick shifty good route running WRs and we'll be fine.
Filtering out non-sensical statements would definitely put an end to this board ....
(emphasis added)
Everyone says this.
I wish they wouldn't, because the Jaguars spent most of it's history without quality WRs that are supposedly so plentiful.
Maybe the problem is the QB.
(02-10-2022, 10:06 PM)tomfin2022 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-09-2022, 02:33 AM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]We're always in rebuild mode.
Did you see what happened the year we actually spent money in FA? We were a blown call away from going to the Super Bowl.
Yes, but then there was no money to resign young players like Ramsey and Ngakuwe which is where all of the hostilities began.
not true in the least.
Khan went on record saying he wanted to make Ramsey the highest paid DB in football and we all know that they made offers to keep Yan, he just wanted top5 money.
Those guys left for reasons other than money.
(02-11-2022, 09:50 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (02-10-2022, 10:06 PM)tomfin2022 Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, but then there was no money to resign young players like Ramsey and Ngakuwe which is where all of the hostilities began.
not true in the least.
Khan went on record saying he wanted to make Ramsey the highest paid DB in football and we all know that they made offers to keep Yan, he just wanted top5 money.
Those guys left for reasons other than money.
It was a part of it... Unnecessarily extending Bortles and finally maxing the cap out with the Foles contract did not sit well with those guys. That was a lot of wasted money that could have been used to re-sign Ramsey at least.
On the other hand, you're right. Ramsey would have found a way out of Jax eventually regardless. Yan I think mostly got bad advice from his agent.
(02-11-2022, 09:06 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (02-11-2022, 03:58 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ](emphasis added)
Everyone says this.
I wish they wouldn't, because the Jaguars spent most of it's history without quality WRs that are supposedly so plentiful.
Maybe the problem is the QB.
Are you seriously arguing Gabbert had a problem with accuracy?
(02-11-2022, 09:06 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (02-11-2022, 03:58 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ](emphasis added)
Everyone says this.
I wish they wouldn't, because the Jaguars spent most of it's history without quality WRs that are supposedly so plentiful.
Maybe the problem is the QB.
It's two fold. Mediocre QBs NEED that elite WR. Great QBs can make studs out of guys.
Manning did it regularly with guys like Garcon and Collie. Brady rarely had a superstar WR save for Moss and Edelmen for a few seasons.
But dudes like Nuke made it happen a with a carousel of bad QBs for a long time.
I think with Trevor we could get by but while he's young we definitely could use a stud to help him out.
Hopefully we get him back. By the way, reports that the cowboys are cutting amari cooper
I'm big on resigning Chark. First, wide receiver is a huge need. Second, I'm not sure there will be a ton of great other options. I think most of the quality free agent wide receivers will either be franchise tagged or resigned with their existing team. Even if someone makes it to free agency, there's no guarantee that they sign with us. Yes, there is the draft, but we need multiple receivers and prefer to have some veteran presence in the mix. Third, I think Chark is under-rated. Most of his playing time has been with either Gardner Minshew or Blake Bortles throwing to him. I know he had three games with Trevor, but that's a small sample size. Trevor was also a rookie in the first three games of his career. I also believe that Chark's speed benefited Marvin Jones. Look at the drop in production from Jones after Chark got injured. In the first three games (which included Chark), Jones had a minimum of 55 yards receiving in all three of those games. Chark then gets injured. In 8 of the next 9 games, Jones fails to reach 55 yards. In most, he wasn't even close.
I acknowledge that there is a risk with Chark, but it is a risk well worth taking.
(03-04-2022, 01:48 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm big on resigning Chark. First, wide receiver is a huge need. Second, I'm not sure there will be a ton of great other options. I think most of the quality free agent wide receivers will either be franchise tagged or resigned with their existing team. Even if someone makes it to free agency, there's no guarantee that they sign with us. Yes, there is the draft, but we need multiple receivers and prefer to have some veteran presence in the mix. Third, I think Chark is under-rated. Most of his playing time has been with either Gardner Minshew or Blake Bortles throwing to him. I know he had three games with Trevor, but that's a small sample size. Trevor was also a rookie in the first three games of his career. I also believe that Chark's speed benefited Marvin Jones. Look at the drop in production from Jones after Chark got injured. In the first three games (which included Chark), Jones had a minimum of 55 yards receiving in all three of those games. Chark then gets injured. In 8 of the next 9 games, Jones fails to reach 55 yards. In most, he wasn't even close.
I acknowledge that there is a risk with Chark, but it is a risk well worth taking.
I really like Chark. The dude has amazing body control and sideline awareness that allows him to make some really tough catches look easy. But he's been injured quite a bit and has had one pretty good season so far. I wouldn't break the bank for him, but by the time franchise tags are applied and teams re-sign their own, he could very well be the best free agent WR available.
(03-04-2022, 05:07 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I'd tag Chark over Cam
I concur. We have a good idea what Cam is. Either sign him long term or move on. Chark had an injury in his last year, don't let him leave without seeing what Trevor can do for him.
Has to be mutual. I would not tag Chark if he's adamant on not being here. Tag Robinson. Sign a receiver or two like Jakobi Meyers, Deonte Harris, Zay Jones, Russell Gage or Cedrick Wilson and look to draft another receiver or two in April. After the way the WR's ran yesterday at the combine there's going to be some legitimate opportunities in RD3 for them to get faster and better on the outside.
With Dallas looking to release Amari Cooper you could probably get a good shot at him in the market as well on a market value type of contract.
I don't think this team needs to worry too much in Pederson's offense with Chark not coming back. I think the emphasis will honestly be placed more on the TE position and more effort being made in the ground game with a RB by committee approach.
(03-04-2022, 06:12 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (03-04-2022, 04:56 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/statu...5337561093
Sounds like he is gone if we don't tag him.
I think I rather bring Cooper. Chark was acting like a [BLEEP] last season when Minshew was the QB.
I've always wanted to re-sign Chark, but if it's either him or sign Cooper, that's a no-brainer. I take Cooper 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
(03-04-2022, 06:45 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Has to be mutual. I would not tag Chark if he's adamant on not being here. Tag Robinson. Sign a receiver or two like Jakobi Meyers, Deonte Harris, Zay Jones, Russell Gage or Cedrick Wilson and look to draft another receiver or two in April. After the way the WR's ran yesterday at the combine there's going to be some legitimate opportunities in RD3 for them to get faster and better on the outside.
With Dallas looking to release Amari Cooper you could probably get a good shot at him in the market as well on a market value type of contract.
I don't think this team needs to worry too much in Pederson's offense with Chark not coming back. I think the emphasis will honestly be placed more on the TE position and more effort being made in the ground game with a RB by committee approach.
We gotta get a good TE in this draft. Like the WR position, it's an incredibly deep class.
(03-04-2022, 07:52 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (03-04-2022, 06:45 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Has to be mutual. I would not tag Chark if he's adamant on not being here. Tag Robinson. Sign a receiver or two like Jakobi Meyers, Deonte Harris, Zay Jones, Russell Gage or Cedrick Wilson and look to draft another receiver or two in April. After the way the WR's ran yesterday at the combine there's going to be some legitimate opportunities in RD3 for them to get faster and better on the outside.
With Dallas looking to release Amari Cooper you could probably get a good shot at him in the market as well on a market value type of contract.
I don't think this team needs to worry too much in Pederson's offense with Chark not coming back. I think the emphasis will honestly be placed more on the TE position and more effort being made in the ground game with a RB by committee approach.
We gotta get a good TE in this draft. Like the WR position, it's an incredibly deep class.
Would be happy with McBride, Woods, Dulcich, Bellinger or Likely. Want to see what Wydermyer does at his pro day. Hopefully Ferguson looks better at his pro day as well. His 3 cone drill was better than his 40. Maybe he's more quick than fast.
Woods seems well balanced with straight speed and strength. Bellinger has great speed for a guy considered a better run blocker than receiver. Untapped potential there probably. Dulcich was well rounded. McBride was the most smooth in his route running and breaking out of his routes.
Calcaterra is a sleeper though. Would take him in RD4 or RD5.
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