...remember when everyone thought Bisaccia was the HC based on some hazy social media activity?
Dude's an FA. If his plans are to play the market to seek a contract, I can see why taking stuff down might make sense. Him doing this doesn't mean we can't or won't make an offer, nor does it mean that he'll refuse any offer we send. Money talks in this league, second only to maybe playing with the GOAT for a ring, and that option just went away. If we're the best offer, he'd probably take it, unless it's some disagreement with coaching, upper management, or the owner.
I mean, it's not like he's had a storied career here. If he re-signs, great, wish ya the best. If not, tootles, still wish ya the best, most of the time.
I would definitely try to bring him back. Honestly, I would rather overpay him than cam Robinson.
(02-07-2022, 07:36 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]When Allen Robinson did the same, everyone on here didn't seem to care. It's so weird to me because AR15 is leagues better than Chark lol.
That's because that team in 2017 went to the AFC Championship game and finished 10 - 6 with him on IR.
I felt like he had solid chemistry with Bortles. You never know. He could have been the difference that year.
My biggest thing with all of these situations that have come in recent years. Guys like Cam Robinson, D.J Chark and Jawaan Taylor. I don't want to see high 2nd RD picks so easily discarded or walking away.
It's concerning. Now, that doesn't mean you break the bank for them. However, it bothers me that this team doesn't seem to try and get ahead of these players hitting the market by extending them faster at a reasonable price.
I understand Robinson is not Boselli. Chark is not Smith or McCardell. However, those guys are serviceable and showed some consistency when healthy. It's just aggravating that they're constantly back filling positions over and over and over and over again.
They need to balance out their approach.
Ramsey swapped for Henderson swapped for Campbell.
Ngakoue swapped for Chaisson.
Etienne drafted after Robinson's impressive undrafted rookie season.
Joekel swapped for Robinson swapped for possibly Little.
Robinson swapped for Chark swapped for possibly another high draft pick in RD2 or RD3.
They need to get their [BLEEP] together and start getting better at having extensions in place. Hopefully they don't screw around and lose Josh Allen and James Robinson in a year or two from now.
This is why it's vital to get Baalke's hands out of the roster IMHO.
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i want them to resign Chark. we know what he is. he is a #1-A or a #1-B. hell if we get a really good FA WR he could be a very good 2. definite upgrade over Jones Jr. but his injury history is what is concerning. they have been bone breaks not ACL Tears. so maybe he just fell the wrong way or maybe he has a brittle stature.
but losing him this year was a big hit to our WR room. that along he should get a prove it deal.
(02-07-2022, 11:13 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2022, 07:36 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]When Allen Robinson did the same, everyone on here didn't seem to care. It's so weird to me because AR15 is leagues better than Chark lol.
That's because that team in 2017 went to the AFC Championship game and finished 10 - 6 with him on IR.
I felt like he had solid chemistry with Bortles. You never know. He could have been the difference that year.
My biggest thing with all of these situations that have come in recent years. Guys like Cam Robinson, D.J Chark and Jawaan Taylor. I don't want to see high 2nd RD picks so easily discarded or walking away.
It's concerning. Now, that doesn't mean you break the bank for them. However, it bothers me that this team doesn't seem to try and get ahead of these players hitting the market by extending them faster at a reasonable price.
I understand Robinson is not Boselli. Chark is not Smith or McCardell. However, those guys are serviceable and showed some consistency when healthy. It's just aggravating that they're constantly back filling positions over and over and over and over again.
They need to balance out their approach.
Ramsey swapped for Henderson swapped for Campbell.
Ngakoue swapped for Chaisson.
Etienne drafted after Robinson's impressive undrafted rookie season.
Joekel swapped for Robinson swapped for possibly Little.
Robinson swapped for Chark swapped for possibly another high draft pick in RD2 or RD3.
They need to get their [BLEEP] together and start getting better at having extensions in place. Hopefully they don't screw around and lose Josh Allen and James Robinson in a year or two from now.
This is why it's vital to get Baalke's hands out of the roster IMHO.
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These are my feelings!!
Just because a player isn’t a superstar doesn’t mean you have to let them walk we have loads of cap room you keep good players and try get more good players. If we were tight against the cap I get it’s a different story but you can’t allow good players out the door for no reason at all
(02-07-2022, 06:12 PM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]Just because a player isn’t a superstar doesn’t mean you have to let them walk we have loads of cap room you keep good players and try get more good players. If we were tight against the cap I get it’s a different story but you can’t allow good players out the door for no reason at all
Agreed. Think we're in the minority though. Most Jag fans seem to prefer trading away merely good players for draft picks. The more the merrier!
(02-07-2022, 07:25 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2022, 06:12 PM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]Just because a player isn’t a superstar doesn’t mean you have to let them walk we have loads of cap room you keep good players and try get more good players. If we were tight against the cap I get it’s a different story but you can’t allow good players out the door for no reason at all
Agreed. Think we're in the minority though. Most Jag fans seem to prefer trading away merely good players for draft picks. The more the merrier!
That is Ketchmanite thinking and I hate it.
You want draft picks to get good players...but draft picks do not guarantee good players.
When you actually get good players, you keep as many of them as possible for as long as you can.
We didn't, which is why we fell off so hard and so fast from 2017.
I would like Chark back for the right money. If he is looking for a big deal it's a no go. I would like to see a prove it incentive deal with Chark.
(02-07-2022, 09:36 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]I would like Chark back for the right money. If he is looking for a big deal it's a no go. I would like to see a prove it incentive deal with Chark.
Why would he do that, though, when he's going to get guaranteed money?
(02-07-2022, 09:41 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2022, 09:36 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]I would like Chark back for the right money. If he is looking for a big deal it's a no go. I would like to see a prove it incentive deal with Chark.
Why would he do that, though, when he's going to get guaranteed money?
I don't know. He hasn't had a ton of production and coming off a major injury.
(02-07-2022, 07:25 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2022, 06:12 PM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]Just because a player isn’t a superstar doesn’t mean you have to let them walk we have loads of cap room you keep good players and try get more good players. If we were tight against the cap I get it’s a different story but you can’t allow good players out the door for no reason at all
Agreed. Think we're in the minority though. Most Jag fans seem to prefer trading away merely good players for draft picks. The more the merrier!
Maybe not as small a minority as you think. I agree with this. We should attempt to sign Chark.
(02-07-2022, 10:17 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2022, 07:36 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]When Allen Robinson did the same, everyone on here didn't seem to care. It's so weird to me because AR15 is leagues better than Chark lol.
Robinson's production has fallen off a cliff. I want nothing to do with him.
(02-07-2022, 01:30 AM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ]Chark is an okay B option at WR. Hes not a "#1" guy. Yeah I would like him to stay, but hes got to do what he wants, and he certainly isnt an elite player.
Agreed. I don't think anyone would consider him a #1, but he's miles better than anything we have on the roster.
I was referring to when he took all of his jaguar stuff off his twitter/ig right before he left. Everyone on here was saying "good riddance" etc. He was better than Chark wouldn't you agree?
Tho I will say this, his numbers may have fallen but he's played with Trubiski, foles and a rookie Fields since leaving here.. he'd be better with a good QB or even a Blake Bortles who just throws his way often.
(02-07-2022, 10:04 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2022, 10:17 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]
Robinson's production has fallen off a cliff. I want nothing to do with him.
Agreed. I don't think anyone would consider him a #1, but he's miles better than anything we have on the roster.
I was referring to when he took all of his jaguar stuff off his twitter/ig right before he left. Everyone on here was saying "good riddance" etc. He was better than Chark wouldn't you agree?
Tho I will say this, his numbers may have fallen but he's played with Trubiski, foles and a rookie Fields since leaving here.. he'd be better with a good QB or even a Blake Bortles who just throws his way often.
You really should stop saying "everyone" because that certainly wasn't the case at all. There were plenty of people on here that wanted ARob back and were mad when Coughlin and Co. low balled him and he walked.
(02-07-2022, 10:02 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2022, 07:25 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. Think we're in the minority though. Most Jag fans seem to prefer trading away merely good players for draft picks. The more the merrier!
Maybe not as small a minority as you think. I agree with this. We should attempt to sign Chark.
I totally agree with you guys. We can't build a solid roster when we keep losing or discarding good players. You can look around the league and see loads of players that we drafted, failed to re-sign, and now they're playing well on good teams. It makes no sense. We keep having to fill roster holes that shouldn't be there.
DJ Chark and Cam Robinson are at the very least decent players that would create a hole in our roster if they left the team. We should make a major effort to re-sign both of them.
The question is not to ask if we need to re-sign him or not (of course we need to), its more about the money he deserves.
He could be our number 1 receiver if healthy and with some work.
Right now he is our number 1 because we doesnt have talent at this position. Shenault is not a reliable option, Marvin is good but not the future, Laquon has build a nice chemistry with Trevor so its promising...
Id like to see our FO trade back our 1st overall pick and take a WR in the first round.
If we can get the right value, I would not be opposed. Especially if we work out a long-term deal Cam Robinson.
(02-08-2022, 06:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2022, 10:02 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe not as small a minority as you think. I agree with this. We should attempt to sign Chark.
I totally agree with you guys. We can't build a solid roster when we keep losing or discarding good players. You can look around the league and see loads of players that we drafted, failed to re-sign, and now they're playing well on good teams. It makes no sense. We keep having to fill roster holes that shouldn't be there.
DJ Chark and Cam Robinson are at the very least decent players that would create a hole in our roster if they left the team. We should make a major effort to re-sign both of them.
I agree that this team has lost too many good players, creating holes that shouldn't be there. My issue with the team is being indecisive and cheap by not signing these guys to longer term deals before their rookie deals end and they become free agents. Effectively now, DJ Chark is a free agent, who will want to test the market. Once they hit the market, the team is forced to overpay or let them go.
As long as we don't overpay him due to desperation.. make a deal. However, he's unreliable and injury prone. I also don't think he'd be a #1 receiver on any other team. Pay him accordingly.
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