(10-03-2022, 06:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 06:14 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]With that point favorites I really really hope they don't take it lightly and underestimate them.... Divisional games can be tough no matter what the record is....
That Kansas City game scares me... what they did to Tampa yesterday was unbelievable.... But then again if the colts beat them... then we can too.... Our defense is going to have to play lights out
They have beat us 8 straight times and all of their games have been close. To take a divisional team lightly and underestimate a team that has beat you 8 straight would be one of the dumbest things in recent memory lol
We need Fatukasi back. He has been a huge reason why we had the number 1 run D. Without him Pierce might just have a day. We also need to run the ball more than we pass
Based on Doug’s post game comments and play calling history, you may be setting yourself up for disappointment. I think we’ll see something closer to weeks 2 and 3 in the passing game next week so we should all be happier as a result regardless.
(10-03-2022, 06:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 06:14 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]With that point favorites I really really hope they don't take it lightly and underestimate them.... Divisional games can be tough no matter what the record is....
That Kansas City game scares me... what they did to Tampa yesterday was unbelievable.... But then again if the colts beat them... then we can too.... Our defense is going to have to play lights out
They have beat us 8 straight times and all of their games have been close. To take a divisional team lightly and underestimate a team that has beat you 8 straight would be one of the dumbest things in recent memory lol
We need Fatukasi back. He has been a huge reason why we had the number 1 run D. Without him Pierce might just have a day. We also need to run the ball more than we pass
True scratch that I don't think they underestimate them or take them lightly.... And after yesterday's loss I think they're going to come out pissed off and swinging
(10-03-2022, 06:39 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 06:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]They have beat us 8 straight times and all of their games have been close. To take a divisional team lightly and underestimate a team that has beat you 8 straight would be one of the dumbest things in recent memory lol
We need Fatukasi back. He has been a huge reason why we had the number 1 run D. Without him Pierce might just have a day. We also need to run the ball more than we pass
True scratch that I don't think they underestimate them or take them lightly.... And after yesterday's loss I think they're going to come out pissed off and swinging
I hope so too. Texans do have a good oline but we need to dominate the line of scrimage on both sides. Josh Allen will have a tough one this week but hopefully Walker can dominate Howard. Jerry Hughes is really good so we need to make sure he is blocked at all times.
Stingley questionable, that will be a huge loss for the Texans if hes out
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/HOU/.../injuries/
Sunday can't get here fast enough. I hope they [BLEEP] wreck the tinhorns this Sunday. Just absolutely [BLEEP] wreck them. I hope the defense doesn't even let them get passed the 50 yard line until it's the 4th quarter and we're up by 31 points after Lawrence just threw his 4th TD on the day.
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I really wish they would start Shatley at C, he is proven that he can be decent there. I just dont think Fortner is ready yet
(10-03-2022, 06:35 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 06:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]They have beat us 8 straight times and all of their games have been close. To take a divisional team lightly and underestimate a team that has beat you 8 straight would be one of the dumbest things in recent memory lol
We need Fatukasi back. He has been a huge reason why we had the number 1 run D. Without him Pierce might just have a day. We also need to run the ball more than we pass
Based on Doug’s post game comments and play calling history, you may be setting yourself up for disappointment. I think we’ll see something closer to weeks 2 and 3 in the passing game next week so we should all be happier as a result regardless.
I agree we need to balance run-pass. I can't think of many that would disagree with that. I do believe our current line is about average at pass blocking. At run blocking they appear to be solidly below average. Especially when the opposing defense knows a run is coming.
Interesting PFF rankings, they have the Eagles as #1.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-l...tiers-2022
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-l...eek-3-2022
(10-03-2022, 08:58 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 06:35 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Based on Doug’s post game comments and play calling history, you may be setting yourself up for disappointment. I think we’ll see something closer to weeks 2 and 3 in the passing game next week so we should all be happier as a result regardless.
I agree we need to balance run-pass. I can't think of many that would disagree with that. I do believe our current line is about average at pass blocking. At run blocking they appear to be solidly below average. Especially when the opposing defense knows a run is coming.
Interesting PFF rankings, they have the Eagles as #1.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-l...tiers-2022
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-l...eek-3-2022
I think the offensive game plan can very each game depending on your opponent. I think the oline is better at run blocking than pass blocking. Etienne is averaging 4.2 ypc while J Rob is averaging 4.4. Those aren't below average numbers. Doug just has to run the ball more. This oline is built to run the ball more than it is the pass. The run game can be a QBs best friend but Doug has gotten away from it early at times
(10-03-2022, 06:35 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 06:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]They have beat us 8 straight times and all of their games have been close. To take a divisional team lightly and underestimate a team that has beat you 8 straight would be one of the dumbest things in recent memory lol
We need Fatukasi back. He has been a huge reason why we had the number 1 run D. Without him Pierce might just have a day. We also need to run the ball more than we pass
Based on Doug’s post game comments and play calling history, you may be setting yourself up for disappointment. I think we’ll see something closer to weeks 2 and 3 in the passing game next week so we should all be happier as a result regardless.
The Colts game we ran it more than we passed it. I didn't hear anything in his presser to make me think one way or the other. I think it will depend on the team we play.
(10-03-2022, 09:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 08:58 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree we need to balance run-pass. I can't think of many that would disagree with that. I do believe our current line is about average at pass blocking. At run blocking they appear to be solidly below average. Especially when the opposing defense knows a run is coming.
Interesting PFF rankings, they have the Eagles as #1.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-l...tiers-2022
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-l...eek-3-2022
I think the offensive game plan can very each game depending on your opponent. I think the oline is better at run blocking than pass blocking. Etienne is averaging 4.2 ypc while J Rob is averaging 4.4. Those aren't below average numbers. Doug just has to run the ball more. This oline is built to run the ball more than it is the pass. The run game can be a QBs best friend but Doug has gotten away from it early at times
(10-03-2022, 06:35 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Based on Doug’s post game comments and play calling history, you may be setting yourself up for disappointment. I think we’ll see something closer to weeks 2 and 3 in the passing game next week so we should all be happier as a result regardless.
The Colts game we ran it more than we passed it. I didn't hear anything in his presser to make me think one way or the other. I think it will depend on the team we play.
Well the Jags were playing with a 24-0 lead. 8 of their last 9 plays were runs.
In the Chargers game, they threw more than they passed so who knows what Sunday is gonna bring.
However, the team is pretty clearly a pass first offense having thrown more than they ran in 3 of 4 games. I think they pass to set up the run which is fine by me. They’ve done a good job of moving the chains this year. Almost 27 points a game so something is clearly working.
(10-03-2022, 09:37 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 09:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I think the offensive game plan can very each game depending on your opponent. I think the oline is better at run blocking than pass blocking. Etienne is averaging 4.2 ypc while J Rob is averaging 4.4. Those aren't below average numbers. Doug just has to run the ball more. This oline is built to run the ball more than it is the pass. The run game can be a QBs best friend but Doug has gotten away from it early at times
The Colts game we ran it more than we passed it. I didn't hear anything in his presser to make me think one way or the other. I think it will depend on the team we play.
Well the Jags were playing with a 24-0 lead. 8 of their last 9 plays were runs.
In the Chargers game, they threw more than they passed so who knows what Sunday is gonna bring.
However, the team is pretty clearly a pass first offense having thrown more than they ran in 3 of 4 games. I think they pass to set up the run which is fine by me. They’ve done a good job of moving the chains this year. Almost 27 points a game so something is clearly working.
Once again, I think it will depend on the opponent and the game. I bet if you went back and ask Doug if he wishes he would of ran it more Sun he would probably say yes when he looks back at the tape and realizes we weren't running the ball that bad not to mention the horrible weather.
(10-03-2022, 09:53 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 09:37 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Well the Jags were playing with a 24-0 lead. 8 of their last 9 plays were runs.
In the Chargers game, they threw more than they passed so who knows what Sunday is gonna bring.
However, the team is pretty clearly a pass first offense having thrown more than they ran in 3 of 4 games. I think they pass to set up the run which is fine by me. They’ve done a good job of moving the chains this year. Almost 27 points a game so something is clearly working.
Once again, I think it will depend on the opponent and the game. I bet if you went back and ask Doug if he wishes he would of ran it more Sun he would probably say yes when he looks back at the tape and realizes we weren't running the ball that bad not to mention the horrible weather.
Doubtful. Doug has a philosophy and he's going to live or die by it. We're always going to be a pass first team.
https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...6113414145
https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...0138978304
Be who we are. With the way things were playing out we were one overthrow from being up 21-0. The O lost all its mojo seemingly after one fumble and just never got it going again until really late, but at least they got it going again. Team was overachieving before I'm not going to over react to a road loss to a good team that isn't even in the conference.
(10-03-2022, 10:46 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]Be who we are. With the way things were playing out we were one overthrow from being up 21-0. The O lost all its mojo seemingly after one fumble and just never got it going again until really late, but at least they got it going again. Team was overachieving before I'm not going to over react to a road loss to a good team that isn't even in the conference.
It wasn't just a simple over throw either, he had to get rid of the ball because he was about to get lit up if he didn't. He had him and did miss him, but it wasn't like he air mailed it over him from a clean pocket.
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...2685723648
The run/pass split last game was fine. It was 19/23. Our time of possession and number of plays was just wrecked by the turnovers. You'd also like to see Robinson get a greater share of the carries, but a gameplan that leans slightly pass is just fine for this day and age.
(10-03-2022, 10:57 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 10:46 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]Be who we are. With the way things were playing out we were one overthrow from being up 21-0. The O lost all its mojo seemingly after one fumble and just never got it going again until really late, but at least they got it going again. Team was overachieving before I'm not going to over react to a road loss to a good team that isn't even in the conference.
It wasn't just a simple over throw either, he had to get rid of the ball because he was about to get lit up if he didn't. He had him and did miss him, but it wasn't like he air mailed it over him from a clean pocket.
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...2685723648
I didn't rewatch this on the all-22 so I could be wrong, but I also felt like it was in the vicinity enough from what I could tell on the broadcast angle that if Agnew saw it coming the whole way he could have properly laid out for it and had a chance.
(10-03-2022, 11:00 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]The run/pass split last game was fine. It was 19/23. Our time of possession and number of plays was just wrecked by the turnovers. You'd also like to see Robinson get a greater share of the carries, but a gameplan that leans slightly pass is just fine for this day and age.
(10-03-2022, 10:57 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]It wasn't just a simple over throw either, he had to get rid of the ball because he was about to get lit up if he didn't. He had him and did miss him, but it wasn't like he air mailed it over him from a clean pocket.
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...2685723648
I didn't rewatch this on the all-22 so I could be wrong, but I also felt like it was in the vicinity enough from what I could tell on the broadcast angle that if Agnew saw it coming the whole way he could have properly laid out for it and had a chance.
That clip I posted is from the all-22 sideline view and the endzone view. He might have been able to lay out for it, but it would have been a tough catch.
(10-03-2022, 11:05 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 11:00 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]The run/pass split last game was fine. It was 19/23. Our time of possession and number of plays was just wrecked by the turnovers. You'd also like to see Robinson get a greater share of the carries, but a gameplan that leans slightly pass is just fine for this day and age.
I didn't rewatch this on the all-22 so I could be wrong, but I also felt like it was in the vicinity enough from what I could tell on the broadcast angle that if Agnew saw it coming the whole way he could have properly laid out for it and had a chance.
That clip I posted is from the all-22 sideline view and the endzone view. He might have been able to lay out for it, but it would have been a tough catch.
Oh yeah you're right. I still can't tell from the two angles there nor the broadcast angle how close or far it was from him. It looks close to me but who knows.
(10-03-2022, 11:09 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 11:05 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]That clip I posted is from the all-22 sideline view and the endzone view. He might have been able to lay out for it, but it would have been a tough catch.
Oh yeah you're right. I still can't tell from the two angles there nor the broadcast angle how close or far it was from him. It looks close to me but who knows.
It's definitely close and if he had just a step longer he's likely able to track the football enough to try and make a diving attempt on it.
(10-03-2022, 03:23 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]The Texans have always scared me. They seem to have our number like we have the Colts number. Years we should beat them they somehow whack us. I hope we can exercise that demon this year.
Exactly. I remember for a number of years when the Jags would go to Houston, they'd break out their "Battle Red" Day uniforms. For some inexplicable reason they seem to get up for us like we get up for the Steelers. Makes no sense whatsoever but there it is.
(10-03-2022, 10:14 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2022, 09:53 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Once again, I think it will depend on the opponent and the game. I bet if you went back and ask Doug if he wishes he would of ran it more Sun he would probably say yes when he looks back at the tape and realizes we weren't running the ball that bad not to mention the horrible weather.
Doubtful. Doug has a philosophy and he's going to live or die by it. We're always going to be a pass first team.
https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...6113414145
https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/...0138978304
If this is true, we will never be good in bad weather. You can't just throw the ball around the field in bad rain and 17 mph wind. He has also said he listens to is coaches so I hope next time his coaches are in is ear saying we need to run the ball and remind him of the bad weather.
(10-03-2022, 11:00 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]The run/pass split last game was fine. It was 19/23. Our time of possession and number of plays was just wrecked by the turnovers. You'd also like to see Robinson get a greater share of the carries, but a gameplan that leans slightly pass is just fine for this day and age.
(10-03-2022, 10:57 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]It wasn't just a simple over throw either, he had to get rid of the ball because he was about to get lit up if he didn't. He had him and did miss him, but it wasn't like he air mailed it over him from a clean pocket.
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...2685723648
I didn't rewatch this on the all-22 so I could be wrong, but I also felt like it was in the vicinity enough from what I could tell on the broadcast angle that if Agnew saw it coming the whole way he could have properly laid out for it and had a chance.
If it was a nice day out sure, but it was heavy rain and up to 20 mph winds, that's not fine under those conditions.
If we can break our west coast curse, we can break the tinhorns curse.
The teal pants and white jersey curse is real.