I getting kind of worried about the national media love. They seem to now expect the Jags to win out.
Hope the team is in a bubble not listening to any of it.
(12-20-2022, 08:49 AM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]I getting kind of worried about the national media love. They seem to now expect the Jags to win out.
Hope the team is in a bubble not listening to any of it.
For what it's worth we've beaten the best team that was left on our schedule, if the team is consistent then they SHOULD win the rest of their games.
Not that I expect it.
(12-20-2022, 09:11 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2022, 08:49 AM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]I getting kind of worried about the national media love. They seem to now expect the Jags to win out.
Hope the team is in a bubble not listening to any of it.
For what it's worth we've beaten the best team that was left on our schedule, if the team is consistent then they SHOULD win the rest of their games.
Not that I expect it.
Yeah, the ball will bounce in the other team's favor at times. Just hopefully not a bunch of times in the same game contributing to a Jags loss.
So Thursday night we are looking at extremely heavy rainfall. 1 to 2 inches. Along with 25 mph winds and a temperature in the mid 40s. It's gping to be a nasty night. Jags O line and Run defense better come to play because I don't know if the pass game is going to be able to do much in that weather. Hopefully trevor is practicing with a wet ball all week because we can't have a repeat of the ball security issues we saw in Philly. Zach wilson is NOT going to be able to throw in that weather. Guy can barely throw in perfect conditions. Game may end up a 13-10 type of game.
(12-20-2022, 09:14 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]So Thursday night we are looking at extremely heavy rainfall. 1 to 2 inches. Along with 25 mph winds and a temperature in the mid 40s. It's gping to be a nasty night. Jags O line and Run defense better come to play because I don't know if the pass game is going to be able to do much in that weather. Hopefully trevor is practicing with a wet ball all week because we can't have a repeat of the ball security issues we saw in Philly. Zach wilson is NOT going to be able to throw in that weather. Guy can barely throw in perfect conditions. Game may end up a 13-10 type of game.
I wonder if we see James Robinson on Thursday night. I feel like if I'm Saleh, I'd want a guy on the field that might be extra salty at the opponent.
(12-20-2022, 03:46 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-19-2022, 11:59 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]So no drop off from 13 rushing TD and 750 rushing yards.
Another great QB take.
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I swear half this message board reads my post, has short term memory loss and pretends I said something completely different. When I say "I don't see a HUGE dropoff" some how you boys just completely deleted the word "huge" and pretend I said there wont be any drop off.
Minshew is not Jalen Hurts obviously but we've seen him play pretty good football with absolutely nothing around him. I'd bet he has some pretty good games with this offense. I mean, even last year he had 4 tds 1 turnover in his 2 starts for the Eagles. And that's without AJ Brown and a rookie Devonta Smith. Jalen Hurts had 16 TDs last year in the other 15 games. Also if you don't think AJ Brown is making Hurts 10x better of a QB you're crazy, look at Tannehill with and without Brown, dudes the best WR in football.
I could still insert the word huge and you'd still be dead wrong...again. (But of course not have the cajones to admit it).
(12-20-2022, 08:49 AM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]I getting kind of worried about the national media love. They seem to now expect the Jags to win out.
Hope the team is in a bubble not listening to any of it.
I work from home, so I usually have either ESPN or FS1 on as background noise.
Every single show, besides Nick Wright's First Things First refers to our beloved team as "The Jaguars" and never mention the QB.
You realize how wild that is? Think about how the national media refers to KC, Cincy, Baltimore, etc... They always refer to the QB while mentioning those teams. Trust me, the national media still do not respect Jacksonville or this team or it's QB.
The narrative of the Cowboys v. Jaguars over the last 24 hours was that the Cowboys lost the game. The highlights that they show of the game while discussing our win are all Cowboys related. They show very few Trevor Lawrence passes. It's wild, man.
But the media still really hasn't come aboard the Lawrence train, believe it or not. Yeah, they'll give him lip service, "Lawrence is coming along" - yada yada yada-. But they aren't giving him the recognition as a franchise QB that they gave to Burrow when he was on the asscension. Think about the love and adoration Burrow and Herbert have gotten as they became national news. Lawrence hasn't gotten to that point yet.
We're still under the radar, believe it or not.
(12-20-2022, 09:14 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]So Thursday night we are looking at extremely heavy rainfall. 1 to 2 inches. Along with 25 mph winds and a temperature in the mid 40s. It's gping to be a nasty night. Jags O line and Run defense better come to play because I don't know if the pass game is going to be able to do much in that weather. Hopefully trevor is practicing with a wet ball all week because we can't have a repeat of the ball security issues we saw in Philly. Zach wilson is NOT going to be able to throw in that weather. Guy can barely throw in perfect conditions. Game may end up a 13-10 type of game.
While I agree that our Run D is gonna have to be stout, and that our running game on offense also needs to come to play...
Lawrence is great at the underneath stuff that goes 10 yards or less.
As long as we don't turn the ball over and our D can pick off Zach Morris and keep their offense modest, we should be in position to potentially be successful.
(12-19-2022, 08:36 PM)jagsfan06 Wrote: [ -> ]Gloves Trevor gloves.
preach it, man.
(12-19-2022, 08:45 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-19-2022, 08:42 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]You aren't wrong.
However, the Eagles have a three (3) game lead in the division with only three (3) games left. You think the Eagles will lose all three games, even if Minshew play all three for Philly?
This Hurts shoulder injury is a wildcard. If Dallas wins and Minshew has to play the rest of the season, then Dallas is still alive.
Either way, though, I don't want to lose to the Jets, and have to rely on Houston to beat Tennessee to keep the game we gained on the Tacks or to rely on Dallas to get that game back for us.
On top of that, there may be a scenario where we may have to go the wild card route (unlikely). In that case, beating the Jets would give us tiebreaker over the and the Chargers.
No disrespect to Jalen Hurts but I really don't see a huge drop off coming for Philly if Minshew plays. That team is stacked offensively with talent i'm pretty sure Bortles could sneak a win or 2 with AJ Brown/Smith/Godert and that nasty O line.
No disrespect but I dismiss this attempt at QB evaluation.
Minshew ain't got the arm or legs to take advantage of that offense like Hurts can.
(12-19-2022, 09:05 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Oh this game just turned into a huge game. Thursday games are always a wildcard, short week, late in the season, I usually give the edge to the home team purely because they have the home field advantage.
I'm hoping the confidence and belief from yesterday and the last few weeks can give us the boost we need for the short week. The Jets lost a tough one to the Lions yesterday and looks like it will be Zach Wilson again. There seemed to be some arguing between the WR's and Wilson yesterday so hopefully they aren't all on the same page.
We played @ the Jets last year on Boxing Day and lost 26-21 with Wilson having that absurd, slowest ever 52yd run TD.
Payback is on the menu
Let's go Jags
ayuh.
You gotta think TLaw wants to get some bragging rights back after last year's loss. I love how the network is making it more about Tlaw vs. Sauce, though.
it should be campbell vs sauce both have identical stats and play out there minds.
(12-20-2022, 03:46 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (12-19-2022, 11:59 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]So no drop off from 13 rushing TD and 750 rushing yards.
Another great QB take.
I swear half this message board reads my post, has short term memory loss and pretends I said something completely different. When I say "I don't see a HUGE dropoff" some how you boys just completely deleted the word "huge" and pretend I said there wont be any drop off.
Minshew is not Jalen Hurts obviously but we've seen him play pretty good football with absolutely nothing around him. I'd bet he has some pretty good games with this offense. I mean, even last year he had 4 tds 1 turnover in his 2 starts for the Eagles. And that's without AJ Brown and a rookie Devonta Smith. Jalen Hurts had 16 TDs last year in the other 15 games. Also if you don't think AJ Brown is making Hurts 10x better of a QB you're crazy, look at Tannehill with and without Brown, dudes the best WR in football.
You said that it's not a sign of disrespect to the central cog of their offense that without him, there is little dropoff.
Basically, "take Hurts out, and they're essentially the same team". Nobody here is calling issue with your "huge" disclaimer. It's the allegation that saying Hurts is replaceable in that offense is not slinging all the shade against one of the frontrunners for league MVP. Yes, that offense is stacked. No, Minshew doesn't nearly have the same arm Hurts does. No, Minshew doesn't have the same scrambling ability that Hurts brings.
It's a major wildcard if Hurts can't go. Does Minshew have the same chemistry with these receivers? Can teams commit more to the pass if Minshew's legs don't intimidate them? Does Minshew have the same command of the playbook, will the line acclimate to his cadence? So many factors that are just dimissied with "they are the best team on paper".
Had you left the statement about Hurts out, and just said the rest of the team is good enough to overcome the talent dropoff from Hurts to Minshew, you probably get zero pushback. But, you like to play the victim, so this lines up perfectly for you, right?
(12-20-2022, 07:39 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Hate these types of games. I think it'll be another solid test for Lawrence but with this defense I worry no matter who they play. Wilson could end up looking like the guy he was drafted to be in two days from now. With that said. I think he'll force a few turnovers in our favor.
Jaguars - 31
Jets - 23
I think especially with a newcomer at LT we are gonna have to get creative in quick passes and stretching plays from sideline to sideline.
I think we're all wondering when the next head-scratching loss comes, it's what we're so accustomed to, but I can't help but fall for Trevor's confidence and command of the team. If the D can force Wilson into some existential crisis with some big time turnovers, we might be able to roll, but I expect the game to be decided by a field goal.
23-21 Duval
(12-20-2022, 08:49 AM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]I getting kind of worried about the national media love. They seem to now expect the Jags to win out.
Hope the team is in a bubble not listening to any of it.
Tlaw's been in his fair share of big games (and big losses) that I think he'll do well to keep the guys around him grounded.
(12-20-2022, 09:14 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]So Thursday night we are looking at extremely heavy rainfall. 1 to 2 inches. Along with 25 mph winds and a temperature in the mid 40s. It's gping to be a nasty night. Jags O line and Run defense better come to play because I don't know if the pass game is going to be able to do much in that weather. Hopefully trevor is practicing with a wet ball all week because we can't have a repeat of the ball security issues we saw in Philly. Zach wilson is NOT going to be able to throw in that weather. Guy can barely throw in perfect conditions. Game may end up a 13-10 type of game.
Based on how our lines were manhandled in Philly, that forecast scares me. @I wonder if they activate JRob@
Here is the weather forecast for East Rutherford, New Jersey, for Thursday night.
"Cloudy with periods of rain. Potential for heavy rainfall. Low 47F. Winds ESE at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected."
I don't expect a high scoring game. I expect some turnovers with the wet football.
(12-20-2022, 09:18 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2022, 09:14 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]So Thursday night we are looking at extremely heavy rainfall. 1 to 2 inches. Along with 25 mph winds and a temperature in the mid 40s. It's gping to be a nasty night. Jags O line and Run defense better come to play because I don't know if the pass game is going to be able to do much in that weather. Hopefully trevor is practicing with a wet ball all week because we can't have a repeat of the ball security issues we saw in Philly. Zach wilson is NOT going to be able to throw in that weather. Guy can barely throw in perfect conditions. Game may end up a 13-10 type of game.
I wonder if we see James Robinson on Thursday night. I feel like if I'm Saleh, I'd want a guy on the field that might be extra salty at the opponent.
Those 15 rushing yards will KILL us
Just nervous about this game. Technically we can afford to drop it but then that means we have to beat the Texans at Houston then sweep the tacks.
(12-20-2022, 10:59 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Just nervous about this game. Technically we can afford to drop it but then that means we have to beat the Texans at Houston then sweep the tacks.
We can afford to drop it if we assume the tacks lose to the cowboys. I think it's likely, but it's still an assumption.
I'd like to see the Jaguars win out if we're going to the playoffs.
(12-20-2022, 11:05 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2022, 10:59 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]Just nervous about this game. Technically we can afford to drop it but then that means we have to beat the Texans at Houston then sweep the tacks.
We can afford to drop it if we assume the tacks lose to the cowboys. I think it's likely, but it's still an assumption.
I'd like to see the Jaguars win out if we're going to the playoffs.
Same. I am just used to the opposite happening. Seeing 2006, 2009 and 2010 PTSD in my head all over again
(12-20-2022, 11:27 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status..._J9MdjmR0A
A lot of people were bashing Williams for his play but he should have never been used in the slot. He's a good outside CB and it's good to see them finally put him there.
A lot of people said he needs to be on the outside
(12-20-2022, 11:08 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2022, 11:05 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ]We can afford to drop it if we assume the tacks lose to the cowboys. I think it's likely, but it's still an assumption.
I'd like to see the Jaguars win out if we're going to the playoffs.
Same. I am just used to the opposite happening. Seeing 2006, 2009 and 2010 PTSD in my head all over again
Cowboys are in an interesting place now. On the one hand, they have a WC clinched. On the other hand, they could win the division if they win out and the Eagles lose out. If they beat the Eagles this week, then look for them to put the petal to the metal against the Titans in pursuit of the Division title. If they lose, then they might just rest starters down the stretch, and we probably get no help from them regarding a Titans loss.